This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they’d simply said “electricity is god”. The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there’s no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It’s anti-education.
US education
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58008@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.
P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Holy crap that art is freakily accurate to reality
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Actually there is also religions promoting science and research.
en.wikipedia.org/…/Islamic_attitudes_towards_scie…
A number of modern scholars such as Fielding H. Garrison, Sultan Bashir Mahmood, Hossein Nasr consider modern science and the scientific method to have been greatly inspired by Muslim scientists who introduced a modern empirical, experimental and quantitative approach to scientific inquiry. Certain advances made by medieval Muslim astronomers, geographers and mathematicians were motivated by problems presented in Islamic scripture, such as Al-Khwarizmi’s (c. 780–850) development of algebra in order to solve the Islamic inheritance laws,[18] and developments in astronomy, geography, spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry in order to determine the direction of the Qibla, the times of Salah prayers, and the dates of the Islamic calendar.[19] These new studies of math and science would allow for the Islamic world to get ahead of the rest of the world. ‘With these inspiration at work, Muslim mathematicians and astronomers contributed significantly to the development to just about every domain of mathematics between the eight and fifteenth centuries"[20]
Many Muslims agree that doing science is an act of religious merit, even a collective duty of the Muslim community.[61] According to M. Shamsher Ali, there are around 750 verses in the Quran dealing with natural phenomena. According to the Encyclopedia of the Quran, many verses of the Quran ask mankind to study nature, and this has been interpreted to mean an encouragement for scientific inquiry,[62] and the investigation of the truth.[62] Some include, “Travel throughout the earth and see how He brings life into being” (Q29:20), “Behold in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are indeed signs for men of understanding …” (Q3:190)
ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I think its more than what you claimed… They are just objectively incorrect facts. Many people have felt electricity, we know where it comes from, what causes it, and how to control it, even.
varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Stupidity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what stupidity does. We know it makes people say strange things, make poor decisions, and ignore obvious facts. But we cannot say what stupidity is like.
We cannot even say where stupidity comes from. Some say it might stem from ignorance or misinformation. Others think that social influences or emotional bias produce some of it. All everyone knows is that stupidity seems to be everywhere and that there are many ways for it to surface.
illi@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it.
I wish.
artifex@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I may have to make this my bio.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I love you.
nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
Paychology, Sociology, Social Psychology. Arguably studies of stupidity.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
This is child abuse. Pure and simple.
Gobbel2000@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
We have no clue what electricity is, because we, the authors, are dumb as fuck.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
And we say noone knows because we can’t imagine anyone could think on their own, and God forbid be smarter than us.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nobody knew electricity could be so complicated!
AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we’re non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said “secular curriculum” on the cover. We told them, “you don’t understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it’s way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum.”
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The irony is that fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and… yeah.
It’d be like a flat-earther in orbit. It’s beyond ironic: it’s just not possible without the help of people outside that belief.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically “home schooling” because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical “home schooling” designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools.
trk@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
But also;
I am a Christian
How do you reconcile these two viewpoints?
“It’s all bollocks, but I still believe it.”
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
There’s nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it’s just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn’t be arguing about religion it’s fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it’s not testable, it’s not falsifiable it’s got absolutely nothing to do with science.
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Wait so the above is actually real? And there are worse things in existence?
Wtf…
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
as a person from across the ocean, i don’t get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don’t you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers.
AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum and there is a whole industry built to cater to that market. Unfortunately that includes books that deliver the kind of stupidity that we see above. Also, I think it is difficult for those outside the US to understand just how much we idolize individualism over any sense social responsibility here.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity.
I wish most electricity waa from renewable energy
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Lots of it is generated by burning biologically sequestered solar energy from hundreds of millions of years ago.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Which is not renewable. Unless you can wait for a couple of million years.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Well technically its still electricity created by the sun. Plants absorbed Carbon dioxide, turned it into carbon with the power of the sun, died and got buried deep below.
mayo_cider@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
I mean outside of nuclear and geothermal it’s all from the sun
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
I was homeschooled my entire childhood. My mom was a Christian. Not a crazy zealot, just a woman with faith. Initially, my school books were through a Christian curriculum program (I believe abeka books, iirc). One of my textbooks had this module on dinosaurs, with little pictures of humans in leopard print look clothes picking berries while a brontosaurus walked by in the background. My mom, ever the fantastic mother, immediately tossed those pieces of garbage and got me on the state curriculum that the public schools used. Took her forever to get it. Initially, when she called the state to ask how to get those resources she was told to stick with abeka, and was offered several other insane religious options before they finally relented. From then on, even though we lived in Virginia, my school standard came out of California, and I had to take end of year tests that aligned with the state of California. I got a great education, and because Mama let me basically choose what hours of the day I did my schoolwork in, I didn’t really need to take summers off. Ended up finishing 12th grade at 14 years old. I am so thankful that she realized how bad those books were, and fought to make sure, even as a single mother working well over full time, that her kids got a good education. My brother and I both placed highest in the state when we took our final exams, in everything but math.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
What a coincidence! I had a very similar path! My elementary mis-education was largely a fundie school using Abeka as well. Their weird religious nationalism was so crazy when I look back on it. It’s amazing they could actually publish this crap.
I wish I still had all the old books we had to get because that would make for a good laugh (and possibly an embarrassment campaign.)
Like c’mon we were kids how were we supposed to know? But also it just felt so bullshitty, like a written form of that awkward feeling you got when it was really obvious adults were lying to manipulate you and thought you were stupid.
It was in California, so eventually I had to move to the state curriculum also, around middle school, for my grades to actually count.
Honestly, that requirement saved my intellect. I went to a secular charter school where I was pushed into interacting with so many different people of different perspectives, and I would be a much crappier person without that experience.
Even today the damage isn’t gone, there’s still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.
These “curriculums” are child abuse.
After all that, I still kept my faith, not because of that upbringing, but in spite of it.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even today the damage isn’t gone, there’s still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.
it stunts their development while assuring them they have all the answers. funny, this is a recurring theme in religion that I see…
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Damn! Fellow Homeschooled Abeka-refugee, and a fellow Christian anarchist‽ Well met! In fairness, my religion’s all over the place, but Christian anarchism is a big part of it.
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If only my mom had had half the motivation to look after my education as yours did. Hell, even a tenth.
I didn’t do bad, but I could’ve done much better weren’t it for the hindrances that mom didn’t care about.
Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
This sounds similar to my childhood. Glad to know there are others. Growing up like that, I didn’t understand the stigma around homeschooling, however, seeing how some of my homeschool “peers” around me turned out, we’re a fraction of a fraction my friend. Thanks for sharing.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
American Christianity is so weird.
hexagon@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I went to Italian catholic school from kindergarten to high school and studied dinosaurs and shit, nobody gets to american level of nonsense
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My American catholic school taught us that creationism is against catholic doctrine. They also taught the controversy.
My friends who went to public school got less instruction on evolution and their science teachers were obviously creationist while mine barely hid that she thought it was moronic
M137@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Mostly because American school is about brainwashing, which isn’t the case for the vast majority of everywhere else.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I may have a simple American education… But I’m pretty sure the Vatican is in Europe.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not sure what point you’re trying to make. The seat of Catholicism in Europe and American fundamentalists have very few things in common. Even American Catholics have very little crossover with their evangelical counterparts.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The Vatican library has books on how electricity works.
r4venw@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Not to be that guy but the vatican is important to catholics; not christians as a whole.
In my experience american christianity is a whole other ball game
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
“Ok, so here’s the theme for this one: you’re in the 1890s and you’ve just seen your first lightbulb. All you know is it runs on electricity instead of oil. All you know about electicity is that some fucking idiot caught some in a jar during a lightning storm. Go!”
mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Looking back when I was growing up I think the most nefarious thing about books like this is that printing gave a lot of implied legitimacy because it was expensive to print a book.
Speaks to how much money these people had to miseducate people.
judgyweevil@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
There are more pixels than the neurons in the writer’s brain
Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
My brother in America I have felt electricity and can couch for that force. It fucking hurts
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
When was this written? Also, it’s not entirely untrue to say that we know what electromagnetic force does, but not what causes it. They say it’s a ‘fundamental force’, which is basically way of saying we can’t further reduce it to explain in terms of other stuff. We don’t know what any of the fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravity, and the strong and weak nuclear forces) really are - we can only describe their effects on the world with maths (‘what they do’)
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Tide comes in tide goes out. Can’t explain that.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
This is the stupidest shit I have heard in my life. Ever seen fucking sparks? Ever had to deal with static electricity? What do they mean they don’t know where electricity comes from? We have power plants and an entire grid to provide electricity. The ways to generate electricity is extremely well known and are common fucking knowledge… I mean I learned it as a kid from cartoons and video games.
ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
This feels like a projection of their deity. Did they want to conflate the mystery of their god to the mystery of electricity? I guess I’m a theist now…
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I swear I saw somewhere Texas gives out these books
jj4211@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Next chapter needs to be: “Fucking magnets, how do they work?”
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ISBN please— full title and author will help too
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Guess there are no Christian electricians then…
seejur@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Now, i usually don’t advocate for book burning, but this one is making a compelling case
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Fuckin magnets, how do they work?
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well, from someone who studied electrical theory in a ‘normal’ university, the author isn’t completely off base in that we know what electricity is but not why electricity is.
Kwakigra@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
This appears to be stupid, and it is, but it’s mostly evil. Teaching children to accept absurdities and distrust evidence to make them easier to control.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Tide comes in and tide goes out. You can’t explain that.
the_wiz@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I somehow have the feeling that this is simply ragebait… if not, well… can someone please take away the printing press from those people? Please?
jaded_genie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are they dense?? Electricity comes from the power outlet. Everyone knows that
rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
And with the dismantling of the US Department of education, things are going to get a lot, lot worse.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Electrician here, I’ve certainly felt electricity, and it sure ain’t pleasant.
And those generation alternators must be very confused.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Masochist here, you’re wrong
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Sadist here. You’re right.
hOrni@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As a non-electrician, I’ve also felt electricity and can confirm, it is indeed not pleasant.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
It really hertz
xylol@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
You only felt what electricity did to you, not what electricity feels, it probably feels like Rogue from Xmen where when it touches someone it hurts them so it will not be able to experience love so its sad and angry
systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
zztz…
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
You did not feel electricity, you felt what it did to your body 🤓
And your heart felt the frequency 🤓🤓 assuming AC… hope you do your regular ECG 🫶🏻
Madison420@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No no, work around hv and you’ll feel electricity even if you’re not doing hot work a lot of the time you can feel the inductive fields around you.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Ah but your nerves rely on electricity so actually you only feel electricity, checkmate athiests
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
By that definition you don’t see or feel anything 🤡
ButtBidet@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
Have you ever had a conversation with electricity?!?!?
checkmate, “electricians”
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I’ve sure sworn at it when I’ve shown up to a call and something’s arcing, so yeah kinda.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
It depends, with enough A’s, you don’t notice anything (anymore)
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It feels like angry
perishthethought@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
and smells like burneding.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Would you say like an angry god smiting you? That is how lightning must feel like.
EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Those pesky pixies do have a penchant for producing pain.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Point properly presented.
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I may be an outlier here, but I’ve experienced mild electric shock from touching a random bare cable sticking out of a wall, and I found it weirdly pleasant. Refreshing, almost.
r4venw@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Mrs Doyle touching bare cables because it makes her feel alive feels like the actual plot of a father Ted episode
deltapi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And this is how people get into electroplay…I, uh, assume.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Perhaps it’s time we call the men in white coats
Una@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
Or did you felt it? vsauce music
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
No! You only felt what it does.
psud@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
Get charged to a few thousand volts, and you will feel the electric charge pushing your hairs away from each other
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Now listen here you little shit