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  • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    My favourite christian (themed) band and CD is Ram it down by Judas Priest.

    Can’t get much more christianity into a group name IMO.

    The song Painkiller is very very good too, impossible to equal in power IMO.

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  • Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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    • JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The objective was to try to get religion to appeal to youth. I knew some young 20’s guys in a band who were into it circa 1998.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You mean the goal wasn’t to get rock to appeal to Christians? 😲

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When I was a preacher I did a sermon based on that episode. It’s such an accurate picture of a teenager finding a social group that happened to be at church. And Hank accurately calls out how shallow that kind of social faith is.

      At the end of the episode, Hank pulls out a box of crap from fads Bobby had been into and talked about how he didn’t want Bobby’s spirituality to end up in that box.

      For millions of people, church is basically a club where they meet with their friends, and since the church is still the most racially segregated place in America, that’s a problem.

      The “Christian Club” mentality is what allowed the rise of the religious right, when churches should be vocal about justice for the the sick, the poor, and the foreigners.

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      • luciferofastora@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        since the church is still the most racially segregated place in America

        Unrelated to the rest of your comment, I find this observation perplexing. In Germany, the church I went to had close ties to several African communities. I loved their joyful, passionate style of worship-parties, more than what I learned of other churches in Germany. The Africans I knew at that church (refugees) were some of the kindest, loveliest people I’ve known. I’d credit that as being one of the good things I took from my faith: Growing up in frequent contact with different cultures and in a spirit of appreciation, I wasn’t even conscious of the concept of racism.

        My mom once told me that, when she’d been babysitting a friendly couple’s son and pushing him in the stroller on a walk, she got evil looks from some people. For the longest time, I assumed that was just because it was apparent that we had come from different fathers and people thought we were both hers.

        In middle or high school, when I learned about it from history class, the concept seemed so alien to me, like a relic of the past… until I realised that my primary school had one black kid, who was bullied (and a bit violent at times, which I’d now attribute to trauma from fleeing an active warzone coupled with facing racism in a fairly conservative town) while my secondary school had none, mostly upperclass “white” with a few other “white”-adjacent (Italian, Russian) ethnicities.

        The idea that this childhood friend might have drawn evil looks because he was black hit me years later like a freight train of shattered childhood innocence.

        (As an aside, that friend once declared that he’s dark chocolate and I’m white chocolate and if that isn’t the sweetest thing, I don’t know what is.)

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  • pasdechance@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    When I first moved to France, I was surprised by how much English-language rock/pop music was on the radio. I was also suprised that sometimes christian rock would be played between something like Nirvana’s Rape Me and Bloodhound Gang’s The Bad Touch. I mentioned it to my colleagues and they were like, “wtf is Christian rock?”

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Despite we having our share of weirdos, most Europeans have no clue as to how mind bogglingy insane religion has become in the US.

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      • pasdechance@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m originally from Canada. Barely any christian rock made it to radio. Probably because they didn’t want to be on the same station as the evil rock bands. I didn’t know it was a thing until university when my neighbour tried to get me to listen to Switchfoot after hearing me listening to Skinny Puppy or something like that.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s fair. Basically since the 80s America has had a counterculture of Christians explicitly rejecting the secularity of society and attempting to create an alternative media landscape that will both pull secular people into the extreme Christian movement using counterculture aesthetics and concepts (ok that actually began in the 70s when they were preaching to burnt out hippies, lots of cults began with that), as well as to prevent their young people from leaving for these things.

        “You don’t need to go be a hippie, you can be a Jesus freak and talk about peace and love and hear how the hippie life of sex and drugs was bad.” And copy and paste for rock, metal, and whatever else. So long as there was something there beyond what they consider immoral they’ll do it, and it’s extended to stuff like just tv.

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      • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Europe is not ready for a Talladega caliber Floridaman

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      well so Jars of Clay was weirdly popular for a christian rock group. like i didn’t even think about them as a christian rock group until their second, maybe third album? but they got radio play on mainstream stations.

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      • kn33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s a similar story with Skillet.

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  • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That is weirdly true.

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    • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Both are corpo-sanitized.

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      • booscience@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s like averaging out anything- the temperature of your porridge is the average of all porridges, the new movie you’ve been waiting for just uses the most common tropes in its writing, the quality of sex you’ll have next is the average of all sex you’ve already had

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve had the misfortune of having my ears raped over and over by Christian rock and metal. Can confirm: it’s horrid, empty, fake,…

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    • Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it’s horrid, empty, fake,…

      Just like Christianity itself 🙂

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      • oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        There are legitimately good Christians and Christian churches, the problem is they actually practice all the “woke” bits in the new testament.

        They’re humble, empathetic, and quiet – so they get drown out by the human garbage that also call themselves “Christian”.

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    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s like if an Multi level marker made pop music.

      I’m also a little irritated that pop music is so formulaic that ai kinda nails the imitation.

      Catchy but stupid.

      …And not the fun kind of stupid either.

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    • YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Taste is a real talent. Whether it comes to decor, music, apparel, etc it fucking matters. When people have really horrible highlights or facial filler, it matters. Beauty matters. Try living in a beautiful environment and then an ugly one and the ugly one hurts.

      I judge people harshly on this matter and I’d be a much happier person if I didn’t. I feel something close to physical pain when something is ugly.

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    • AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      One of the extremely few exceptions is Extol.

      That chorus riff is unreal. Killer riffs and drumming all around.

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      • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Well yes, but they are THE exception. And by a long shot at that.

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  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s already cringe when the youth pastor shows up with his acoustic guitar, and there’s really no need to also bring electricity into this.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I like those guys. Our existence is too short to waste it worrying about how cool people will think we are, and they’re ironically making the most of theirs. They’re out there having fun playing music.

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      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        …while worrying about what some imaginary war god thinks of them.

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  • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I just hate it when I find a new song that sounds like a tragic story of the loss of a loved one just to find out it’s actually about their love for god.

    It just feels so cringey to me 🥴

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    • catboy_slim@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or you think it’s divorced dad rock and it’s actually about the devil

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  • ReluctantlyZen@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Nah. There are a lot of bad Christian rock/metal bands, but there are quite a few good ones too.

    To name some:

    • Skillet is an obvious one (not my thing anymore, especially everything after Awake, but can’t call them bad)
    • Silent Planet
    • August Burns Red
    • Underoath (until they weren’t)
    • Fit For A King
    • Wolves At The Gate (though their lyrics can be too much on the nose)
    • Flyleaf (when Lacey Sturm was still on board)
    • Love & Death
    • Children 18:3
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    • Manalith@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m just going to tack a few more on here so I can find some of yours later, but I’d like to add:

      Nine Lashes, which are probably more overt than some

      Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, for the entirety of Don’t You Fake It, and a few other songs

      Red

      Demon Hunter

      Switchfoot, don’t @ me Dare You To Move is a banger

      Disciple

      Pillar

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      • ReluctantlyZen@ani.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Disciple is probably more overt than Nine Lashes though, no?

        DH I’ve gotten uncomfortable with since Exile.

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    • vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How did you literally forget Reliant K?

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      • ReluctantlyZen@ani.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Cause I never listened to them for some reason

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    • quixote84@midwest.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Personally I still have a soft spot for Newsboys. Mostly just Shine, and Take Me To Your Leader. Those two still feel good.

      Initially I kinda liked Audio Adrenaline, but looking back with what we all know now about the impact of a car based society on the world, I gotta admit, “Chevette” didn’t have an ounce of gospel in it, and was a much worse take on crappy cars that probably leaked toxic trash everywhere they went than Adam Sandler’s “Ode to my Car”.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Underoath (well, they used to be)

      used to be good or used to be christian?

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      • ReluctantlyZen@ani.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Used to be a christian band

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    • vegafjord@slrpnk.net ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I like Half Alive

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  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are you saying AI art…It can take me higher? To a place where blind men see?

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The only good Christian rock band is Five Iron Frenzy and that proves the redemptive power of ska

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    • redsand@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What about that one Skillet song that’s good? And I want to say switchfoot?

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      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        My sister used to be a born again Christian and I always liked Jars of Clay better than the other options.

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      • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I hadn’t heard the name switchfoot in decades. I remember they had one good song but it still got creepy in the middle. New way to be human?

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    • zewm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      cries in Fireflight

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      • lemmyng@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Sobs in RED

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    • ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Collective Soul had some good stuff.

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    • AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      God damnit. You just ruined the one song of their’s that I liked.

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  • belochka@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Isn’t Skillet kinda fine?..

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      the key ingredient is they don’t only sing about Jesus. See also: Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. Mainstream audiences don’t generally mind christian themes so long as that band is being true to themselves rather than making common denominator slop.

      i mean… look at all the music that came from Motown records before 1985. not all of those musicians and acts were devoutly christian, but a lot of them were

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      • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think you nailed it. I don’t mind the Christian songs of Black Sabbath. They are just true to themselves and sing what they want to sing.

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    • zewm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You misspelled fire.

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    • hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Skillet is trash, and the front man is a tool.

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  • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I have a soft spot for Creed sometimes, but it’s not exactly like they disprove this statement.

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    • quarkquasar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Creed is an honorary Christian rock band, which is 1000x worse than a normal one.

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    • VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s one of those where they became so mainstream that they don’t want to name it, but they definitely make Christian rock.

      Apparently, Higher is about lucid dreaming, but he’s also dreaming of biblical Heaven:

      Can you take me higher
      To a place where blind men see
      (Isaiah 29:18-19) Can you take me higher
      To a place with golden streets
      (Revelations 21:21)

      “My Sacrifice” is about Scott’s struggle with alcoholism, but speaks of a person who gave him love and who he implies he repeatedly reunites with “in their mind.” That’s Jesus bro.

      “One Last Breath” drops a capital-H “His grace” referring to God, “With Arms Wide Open” mentions praying, “What If” references Matthew 7:16-17, etc.

      It seems quite a few of their songs are “actually” about something else, but totally allegorical to Christian belief. And idk what that makes you other than a Christian rock band.

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      • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I thought My Sacrifice was about the double standard of being a supposed Christian rockstar but hanging with Kid Rock and getting bjs from the groupies.

        “When you are with me, I’m free. I’m careless, I believe. Above all the others, we’ll fly. This brings tears to my eyes. My sacrifice.”

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    • Canconda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Scott Stapp the vocalist and lyricist is a Christian and his solo albums are outrightly spiritual in theme.

      Something you would have to grow up in the church to understand is how controversial a lot of “Christian bands” actually were in Christian circles. Like the pushback against music with scream vocals was real.

      It was a genuine wedge issue because churches used professional audio/lights to attract members with polished modern rock worship music. Music became so intertwined that it led to all non christian music being labeled “secular”.

      Bands like Creed didn’t fit either label but generally was considered acceptable listening material in the church circles I grew up in. Most objections to it genre based.

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Alter Bridge is better

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      • notthebees@reddthat.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Alter bridge still has the only live album I’ll ever listen to. Wonderful life/watch over you with the parallax orchestra is genuinely a top 5 song. Probably no1 in the top 5.

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    • blarth@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They are.

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  • Soapbox@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m an atheist, but Norman Greenbaum’s “Spirit In The Sky” is a banger.

    Otherwise yeah, this meme nails it.

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    • ContriteErudite@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I also like some religious music, I think the key is I don’t want to feel like I’m being browbeaten with it.
      At the risk of turning this into a “not religious, but…” music recommendation thread: I’ve enjoyed mewithoutYou for a long time now. They have a subdued art-rock sound, and I even enjoy a lot of their more overtly religious songs like “In a Sweater Poorly Knit” and “The King Beetle On A Coconut Estate.”
      Mewithoutyou - “Cattail Down”

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    • NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Creepy though.

      When I die and they lay me to rest,
      I’m going to go to the place that’s the best.

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      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s so stupid it’s hilarious. That’s the kind of lyric I would write if I was making fun of Christian music.

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      • Soapbox@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I actually looked up the song after I commented. Apparently Norman is Jewish and wrote the song after watching a gospel performance and said “Hey, I could do that.” He then wrote the lyrics in 15 minutes…

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The word “intelligence” means nothing when referencing most “AI”, just like the word Christian means nothing when referencing most “church-goers”.

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  • bold_omi@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There are definitely exceptions. But this is often true.

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  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ar- Artificial?

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  • far_university1990@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Skillet?

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I liked mxpx back in the early 2000s. when I found out they were a Christan punk band I stopped listening to them.

    who the fuck makes a Christan punk band?? wankers, that’s who.

    1000003991

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  • Drusas@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Almost real.

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  • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    POD was awesome tho

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  • mrmisses@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yup, phoney

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  • kepix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    i still like pod. lyrics suck, but the sound is still on point.

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  • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think back to those early hillsong albums. All the moshpits and everything.

    Did hillsong expect all those people in the mosh pit to be sober?

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  • HeHoXa@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Audio Adrenaline - Underdog slaps

    I am ready for my punishment.

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  • CreativeCider@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    More like K-Pop.

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  • AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    silent planet is the best christian band I’ve ever discovered. they just have incredibly correct takes so idc if they’re religious.

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  • redlemace@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d argue there is (at least) one exception. Neal Morse. Yeah, the lyrics in his solo projects are all “hallelujah” but he really makes some good music.

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  • Erna_muse@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And here we are on shitty reddit because we can’t control our violent thoughts.

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  • addie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hate AI ‘art’. Love me some Icon For Hire. But they mostly sing about mental illness with pop-metal hooks, and rarely anything spiritual.

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Jesus why don’t you, turn off the light?

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