ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what’s saving them when in reality, washing your chicken enables a host of cross-contamination issues.
Anon doesn't wash
Submitted 4 weeks ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Rinsing and scrubbing will spread micro droplets a lot further than your sink.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
i thought it said “than you sink” and that you were making a German coastguard joke
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
This is why I don’t clean the dishes in my sink… Not trying to spread any micro droplets.
Damage@feddit.it 4 weeks ago
Red meat can be eaten rare, because even if the inside is raw, it’s not usually contaminated by anything dangerous, while chicken meat has to be throughly cooked because it’s the opposite… So washing the outside is useless.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Only if it’s a slab of meat, like a steak. Ground meat mixes up all those contaminants, so unless you grind it yourself from a slab with the outsides cut off (still iffy), cook your ground meat thoroughly (medium well is probably enough). You can get away with a sear on pretty fresh steak though.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Wait, you don’t eat chicken medium rare?
Zanz@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
If you hold your chicken for ten minutes at temperature, you can cook it medium rare and pink. blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-every…
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What kind of regarded shitfuckery is washing chicken? What u washing off the bacteria that will die by the time the chicken reaches a safe temperature? This just seems like a good way to spread salmonella all over ur sink with no advantage.
dafo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah, I remember seeing some clip of some British science woman and whatever, washing chicken is not only fucking dumv, but a great way to spread bacteria
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
Yea, there was a short series a few years ago with a cute blonde (hey, she gets guys to watch).
She visited a lab and demonstrated very clearly why washing chicken is a bad idea.
And how much difference soap makes when washing your hands, especially after handling something like chicken.
She also covered a bunch of chemical uage from the Victorian era.
Wish I could remember the show name for you.
PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah it potentially splashes salmonella round everywhere.
lauha@lemmy.one 4 weeks ago
Don’t you wash your sink?
Thorry84@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
Are you crazy? I’ve been seasoning that thing for years, I don’t want to ruin it by washing it!
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Do you disinfect your sink as often as you make a meat dish?
PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Why wash the chicken then wash the sink and surrounding area when you can just not rinse the chicken and cook it without issue?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Lots of people really do.
Losing taste is one thing, but it can actually be dangerous by spreading salmonella&friends.
ma1w4re@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Didn’t watch the video, but I have a degree in this field. We were taught to always wash chicken, in a separate room. I was given an earful one time when I was working at the kindergarten kitchen when I forgot to wash chicken thoroughly.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
You’ll have to be more specific about what “this field” is. Restaurant sanitation? Food safety? Chicken washing? Microbiology?
Whatever your degree, it’s not the recommended practice.
ask.usda.gov/…/Should-I-wash-chicken-or-other-pou….You render meat safe to eat by killing the bacteria with fire, commonly called “cooking it”.
cowfodder@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You were taught wrong. You don’t wash chicken. It only spreads germs.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I dunno who taught you that, or what dipshit was running a school that allowed it, but the bare fact that it is not only unnecessary, but potentially dangerous, has been known for decades.
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
always wash chicken, in a separate room
Oh dang, I’ll have to move to a bigger house. My current home is lacking a chicken washing room.
Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Hang on. You’re telling me, all kindergartens in your area have a separate room, just for washing chicken? Like"Here’s where the kids keep their bags, here’s the toilets, this is the chicken washing room, and over there we keep the crafts."
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
Having worked in restaurants for years and been to multiple health and safety classes in multiple states, I call bullshit.
Washing chicken spreads bacteria all over everything wherever it’s done: the walls, floor, ceiling. Do you sanitize the ceiling after you do this?
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You should absolutely not wash your chicken, it is unnecessary and can splash bacteria around. Cook it to 165 F and youre 100% safe from bacteria.
Zanz@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
You want 150f for 3 min for white meat. 165 is unnecessary unless you flash cook it, and then put it in the fridge. 165 w8ll be tough and dry. blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-every…
Dark meat will be at like 170 when it cooks for flavor so you don’t need to worry if it is cooked through it will be safe.
chaitae3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
For the lazy:
- you want 65°C for three minutes
- 75°C is unnecessary
- dark meat will be at like 77°C
BangCrash@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Pretty sure you need to cook chicken for more than 3 minutes
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Just make sure you test the coldest part of the chicken. For good measure, check a few areas, like breast, thighs, and drumsticks.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Apparently washing your chicken was an old practice to “rinse the germs off”. In reality it just sprays germs everywhere. I can’t believe anyone thought it was a good idea.
31337@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I think it’s common where meat is sold in open-air markets. I read an article about the practice last year.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
In the days before plastic packaging?
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
It’s a leftover practice from days when standards were lower. Just like cooking pork to 165, it’s not necessary anymore, but habits die hard
Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
Cook it thorougly. Use a meat thermometer to be sure and you’ll be fine.
billwashere@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I remember hearing the same thing.
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No you don’t.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
There sure are plenty of ‘under no circumstances’ articles and testimonials parroting each other.Washing removes the gooey protein film on the surface, which otherwise ends up cooking into a egg-white-like membrane.
You can also wipe it with a paper towel to accomplish the same.
You should, at the very least, always dry your chicken to allow the surface to brown properly. Otherwise you end up with the hospital patient pale white.Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
I think they mean that if you wash the chicken before cooking you might propel the not-yet-dead bacteria around your kitchen, which is worse than putting it all in the oven together.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Yep, you nailed it in your edit. We do exactly that - dry it off with a few paper towels, then roast. As long as you can resist devouring the paper towels or dragging them all over the house (I’m looking at my sleeping dogs as I type this), it’s safe.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yes people do it.
No they shouldn’t.
Maybe we all should once Trump disbands the USDA.
superkret@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Your chicken should already be clean enough when you unpack it. Just choke it thoroughly and don’t contaminate any surfaces with its juices.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
when you unpack it. Just choke it thoroughly
This is sounding extremely unsanitary
Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Well… you don’t want it flapping around everywhere in your oven now, do you?
JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off. If you don’t believe the cooking kills the germs then you’re not cooking it right (or are confused). If you think it’s something that won’t come off with cooking like dirt or dust, then, ew, why are you getting chicken from somewhere that gets it covered in dirt or dust?
ameancow@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off.
A LOT of kitchen practices in families are passed-down traditions, with a lot of people not really knowing why they do the things they do.
My Filipino family washes their cuts of meat, which yeah is entirely unnecessary and I always wondered why they do it, then I traveled to the Philippines and saw the town where they lived, and most of the local butchers hang fresh cuts of meat up on hooks, uncovered, right next to busy roads and sidewalks.
I genuinely don’t know how everyone there hasn’t died of acute food poisoning from the unrefrigerated meats in high heat and humidity, but they at least like to wash off the road grime and dust.
WammKD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
It can also help tenderize the meat (via vinegar or lemon/lime); I tend to find that, when “nondeveloped” countries talk about washing their next, it means in a vinegar/citrus solution while “developed” countries quite literally mean just plain water.
person420@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
I don’t know what this text is going on about. People don’t wash the ‘white shit’ off chicken. Some people think that washing chicken (or poultry in general) reduces the chance of cross contamination due to salmonella. In reality it makes it more likely for cross contamination because it splatters all around your sink and surrounding areas.
It also doesn’t make it taste bland. It’s just useless.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
My guess is that Anon made an assumption about what they were attempting to do while washing it off and that night didn’t put a lot of effort into the cooking and also expected it to taste bad.
FUBAR@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Sometimes it’s the bacteria that kills you sometimes it’s the poop of the bacteria that kills you. The latter won’t matter if you cook it well or not. But yeah generally it’s useless to wash chicken.
TotalFat@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
People who consume a lot of floor chickens
Earflap@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Butcher pubes
zephorah@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
As a middle aged person who is generally healthy, I’ve never washed chicken. On a side note, we eat chicken weekly. I’ve not experienced diarrhea, or been really sick, or died post chicken eating. I could safely say 1/2 of the days of the year, at least, involve basic butcher parted out chicken, and it is delicious.
Washing a backyard/farm chicken post killing/plucking to remove blood and debris, sure. But what is the logic behind this strange internet trend?
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
You, like me, probably just cook the chicken properly.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Washed or not, chicken needs to be cooked properly, there’s nothing people do by washing the outside that will kill the salmonella inside the muscle. Hell, cooking will kill it on the surface right away so I don’t know what people think they’re doing by washing the outside!
klemptor@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
I think it’s just how boomers were raised. I’m middle-aged and I don’t wash chicken, but my boomer mom is horrified at the thought. She came for a visit and made sure I washed the chicken before I cooked with it. 🙄
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I had told my mom to go sit down and get out of my kitchen for less.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
I’ve not met a single “boomer” that does this.
lath@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The idea would be that due to suspected unsanitary conditions in which mass-produced meat products are collected and transported, additional substances and materials not fit for consumption become attached and go unnoticed.
Washing would remove the extra stuff supposedly.
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I watched a cooking video a few years ago about cooking a whole chicken. In the video it was said “we’re not going to wash the chicken”. I thought just the idea of washing a chicken was strange, so I checked the comments. It was a trainwreck of people being freaked out and disgusted by how she didn’t wash the chicken.
I had to search through several forums and articles afterwards to confirm that I wasn’t insane, and that I hadn’t lived my whole life with disgusting food habits. But the topic of washing a chicken befire you cook it is a strangely divided subject.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
This is like finding out that there are Flat Earthers that actually believe and it’s not just a satirical joke.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I bring this up every so often but I remember flat earth being about questioning science and understanding how to think for yourself… That understanding the earth was round was such a simple thing to do just by really looking at the horizon… You could then question other science and try to see how it could be wrong… It was like a gateway into critical thinking or something…
But I never could find any reference to the old club that was started for it or find anything on the topic… I also haven’t looked in a while and most of the information is just now about how these people are incorrect and also craziness
2ugly2live@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
My mom has always made me “wash chicken,” which would just be running it under water. Just chicken, nothing else.
I used to do it out of habit, but laziness seems to have worked in my favor this time.
eronth@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I was going to mention not washing your chicken, but the comments nail it. Don’t wash your chicken, the bacteria just spreads around your kitchen.
pachrist@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I remember watching an interview with some chef once. They were asked what common things they would see when they’re at someone’s house that would keep them from eating, just out of fear. Washing raw chicken in the sink was the instant answer. It splashes everywhere and is very likely to contaminate half your kitchen.
Stern@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
taste like plain shit after
does homey not season his shit?
nesc@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
Seasoning must enhance the taste, not be the taste. Also most of the taste in chiken come from legs and skin.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
wash it so it tastes more plain
season it so it doesn’t taste as plain
lol
Trilobite@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I used to have a roommate that would wash her veggies and meat in the soapy dishwasher freaking disgusting
Manalith@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
So that’s why cilantro tastes like that?
revlayle@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I do not think I have ever washed any chicken I have prepared, EVER
festnt@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
me neither (ive never prepared any chicken)
Thomrade@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The only time I wash chicken is after cooking it, and when I drop it on the floor and thing “eh, I can still eat this”
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Just stick it in the dishwasher.
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Wash it, it’s disgusting. Also clean off the gross white stuff and as much fat as you can. I leave the skin though.
If you bump up your hot water heater, it’ll cook it there too.
riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
not eaying animal products has made my life so much easier in that regard. no need to worry about all the pitentially dangerous stuff on and in dead animals, raised in disgusting conditions :3
Dasus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
My eggs have chickenshit on them and thats’ why they don’t need refrigeration like you do in the US.
Also, I can eat them raw if I like. Finnish health authorities sign off on that.
PanArab@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Brine don’t wash
Alpha71@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nobody tell him about restaurant kitchens washing their chicken in bleach to remove the smell of freezer burn…
AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What kind of idiot doesn’t wash their food after getting it from the store
festnt@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
politics? earth shape? religion? nah, i like to argue about washing or not the chicken when preparing it
mlg@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Does washing actually cause the fat to come off though?
I’ve had bloody chicken before which you do actually want to wash/clean off because cooked blood will completely destroy your dish.
Otherwise you can cut off some cartilage and hard fat that won’t render when cooked. No need to wash it.
GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So where I live, frozen chicken is cut on a wooden chopping board overlaid with pieces of the carton it came it. Without washing you’ll end up with random bits of cardboard, wood, fish fins and possibly sand.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not washing your chicken with vinegar gives it a dirty taste. Don’t @ me.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I never wash my meats, that would cast the external microbes around the kitchen. Instead, I blanch them in boiling water for a few minutes. It’s kinda like sous vide, but faster. It’s also fine if you forget it in the water for a bit, the meat will only get cleaner! Toss some broccoli into the water for full meal prep with minimal cleanup
Furbag@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The only time I would ever wash a chicken is if I’m going to brine it in something. Otherwise it cooks just fine.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.
Cook it properly.
If you don’t know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Washed chicken won’t be any safer if it’s undercooked, salmonella isn’t a surface only danger.
Cliff@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And by washing it you might spread the salmonella all over the place.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Washed chicken is a stupid concept, I was including the unwashed part because that is the default state of uncooked chicken.
Unless you accidentally drop a chicken on the floor and don’t want to waste it, there isn’t a reason to wash it.
__nobodynowhere@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
Do people wash pork chops? steaks? hamburgers?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
People of West Indian descent often wash meat like pork and beef with a vinegar solution, but not ground meat