ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what’s saving them when in reality, washing your chicken enables a host of cross-contamination issues.
Anon doesn't wash
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Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Rinsing and scrubbing will spread micro droplets a lot further than your sink.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
i thought it said “than you sink” and that you were making a German coastguard joke
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
This is why I don’t clean the dishes in my sink… Not trying to spread any micro droplets.
Damage@feddit.it 2 days ago
Red meat can be eaten rare, because even if the inside is raw, it’s not usually contaminated by anything dangerous, while chicken meat has to be throughly cooked because it’s the opposite… So washing the outside is useless.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Only if it’s a slab of meat, like a steak. Ground meat mixes up all those contaminants, so unless you grind it yourself from a slab with the outsides cut off (still iffy), cook your ground meat thoroughly (medium well is probably enough). You can get away with a sear on pretty fresh steak though.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Wait, you don’t eat chicken medium rare?
Zanz@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
If you hold your chicken for ten minutes at temperature, you can cook it medium rare and pink. blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-every…
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 days ago
What kind of regarded shitfuckery is washing chicken? What u washing off the bacteria that will die by the time the chicken reaches a safe temperature? This just seems like a good way to spread salmonella all over ur sink with no advantage.
dafo@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, I remember seeing some clip of some British science woman and whatever, washing chicken is not only fucking dumv, but a great way to spread bacteria
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
Yea, there was a short series a few years ago with a cute blonde (hey, she gets guys to watch).
She visited a lab and demonstrated very clearly why washing chicken is a bad idea.
And how much difference soap makes when washing your hands, especially after handling something like chicken.
She also covered a bunch of chemical uage from the Victorian era.
Wish I could remember the show name for you.
PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah it potentially splashes salmonella round everywhere.
lauha@lemmy.one 2 days ago
Don’t you wash your sink?
Thorry84@feddit.nl 2 days ago
Are you crazy? I’ve been seasoning that thing for years, I don’t want to ruin it by washing it!
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Do you disinfect your sink as often as you make a meat dish?
PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Why wash the chicken then wash the sink and surrounding area when you can just not rinse the chicken and cook it without issue?
Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 day ago
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
Cook it thorougly. Use a meat thermometer to be sure and you’ll be fine.
billwashere@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I remember hearing the same thing.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
There sure are plenty of ‘under no circumstances’ articles and testimonials parroting each other.Washing removes the gooey protein film on the surface, which otherwise ends up cooking into a egg-white-like membrane.
You can also wipe it with a paper towel to accomplish the same.
You should, at the very least, always dry your chicken to allow the surface to brown properly. Otherwise you end up with the hospital patient pale white.Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.
I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
I think they mean that if you wash the chicken before cooking you might propel the not-yet-dead bacteria around your kitchen, which is worse than putting it all in the oven together.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yep, you nailed it in your edit. We do exactly that - dry it off with a few paper towels, then roast. As long as you can resist devouring the paper towels or dragging them all over the house (I’m looking at my sleeping dogs as I type this), it’s safe.
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You should absolutely not wash your chicken, it is unnecessary and can splash bacteria around. Cook it to 165 F and youre 100% safe from bacteria.
Zanz@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
You want 150f for 3 min for white meat. 165 is unnecessary unless you flash cook it, and then put it in the fridge. 165 w8ll be tough and dry. blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-every…
Dark meat will be at like 170 when it cooks for flavor so you don’t need to worry if it is cooked through it will be safe.
chaitae3@lemmy.world 2 days ago
For the lazy:
- you want 65°C for three minutes
- 75°C is unnecessary
- dark meat will be at like 77°C
BangCrash@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Pretty sure you need to cook chicken for more than 3 minutes
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Just make sure you test the coldest part of the chicken. For good measure, check a few areas, like breast, thighs, and drumsticks.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Lots of people really do.
Losing taste is one thing, but it can actually be dangerous by spreading salmonella&friends.
ma1w4re@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Didn’t watch the video, but I have a degree in this field. We were taught to always wash chicken, in a separate room. I was given an earful one time when I was working at the kindergarten kitchen when I forgot to wash chicken thoroughly.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
You’ll have to be more specific about what “this field” is. Restaurant sanitation? Food safety? Chicken washing? Microbiology?
Whatever your degree, it’s not the recommended practice.
ask.usda.gov/…/Should-I-wash-chicken-or-other-pou….You render meat safe to eat by killing the bacteria with fire, commonly called “cooking it”.
cowfodder@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You were taught wrong. You don’t wash chicken. It only spreads germs.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I dunno who taught you that, or what dipshit was running a school that allowed it, but the bare fact that it is not only unnecessary, but potentially dangerous, has been known for decades.
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
always wash chicken, in a separate room
Oh dang, I’ll have to move to a bigger house. My current home is lacking a chicken washing room.
Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Hang on. You’re telling me, all kindergartens in your area have a separate room, just for washing chicken? Like"Here’s where the kids keep their bags, here’s the toilets, this is the chicken washing room, and over there we keep the crafts."
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
Having worked in restaurants for years and been to multiple health and safety classes in multiple states, I call bullshit.
Washing chicken spreads bacteria all over everything wherever it’s done: the walls, floor, ceiling. Do you sanitize the ceiling after you do this?
Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yes people do it.
No they shouldn’t.
Maybe we all should once Trump disbands the USDA.
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Apparently washing your chicken was an old practice to “rinse the germs off”. In reality it just sprays germs everywhere. I can’t believe anyone thought it was a good idea.
31337@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I think it’s common where meat is sold in open-air markets. I read an article about the practice last year.
someguy3@lemmy.world 2 days ago
In the days before plastic packaging?
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It’s a leftover practice from days when standards were lower. Just like cooking pork to 165, it’s not necessary anymore, but habits die hard
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 day ago
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off. If you don’t believe the cooking kills the germs then you’re not cooking it right (or are confused). If you think it’s something that won’t come off with cooking like dirt or dust, then, ew, why are you getting chicken from somewhere that gets it covered in dirt or dust?
ameancow@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m confused what they think they’re washing off.
A LOT of kitchen practices in families are passed-down traditions, with a lot of people not really knowing why they do the things they do.
My Filipino family washes their cuts of meat, which yeah is entirely unnecessary and I always wondered why they do it, then I traveled to the Philippines and saw the town where they lived, and most of the local butchers hang fresh cuts of meat up on hooks, uncovered, right next to busy roads and sidewalks.
I genuinely don’t know how everyone there hasn’t died of acute food poisoning from the unrefrigerated meats in high heat and humidity, but they at least like to wash off the road grime and dust.
WammKD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It can also help tenderize the meat (via vinegar or lemon/lime); I tend to find that, when “nondeveloped” countries talk about washing their next, it means in a vinegar/citrus solution while “developed” countries quite literally mean just plain water.
person420@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
I don’t know what this text is going on about. People don’t wash the ‘white shit’ off chicken. Some people think that washing chicken (or poultry in general) reduces the chance of cross contamination due to salmonella. In reality it makes it more likely for cross contamination because it splatters all around your sink and surrounding areas.
It also doesn’t make it taste bland. It’s just useless.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 day ago
My guess is that Anon made an assumption about what they were attempting to do while washing it off and that night didn’t put a lot of effort into the cooking and also expected it to taste bad.
FUBAR@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Sometimes it’s the bacteria that kills you sometimes it’s the poop of the bacteria that kills you. The latter won’t matter if you cook it well or not. But yeah generally it’s useless to wash chicken.
TotalFat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
People who consume a lot of floor chickens
Earflap@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Butcher pubes
superkret@feddit.org 2 days ago
Your chicken should already be clean enough when you unpack it. Just choke it thoroughly and don’t contaminate any surfaces with its juices.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 days ago
when you unpack it. Just choke it thoroughly
This is sounding extremely unsanitary
Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Well… you don’t want it flapping around everywhere in your oven now, do you?
eronth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was going to mention not washing your chicken, but the comments nail it. Don’t wash your chicken, the bacteria just spreads around your kitchen.
pachrist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I remember watching an interview with some chef once. They were asked what common things they would see when they’re at someone’s house that would keep them from eating, just out of fear. Washing raw chicken in the sink was the instant answer. It splashes everywhere and is very likely to contaminate half your kitchen.
ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 21 hours ago
That’s disgusting.
That’s why I bring my raw chicken to the bathtub. The curtains keep it contained, and it gives me something to do while I shower.
Alpha71@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Nobody tell him about restaurant kitchens washing their chicken in bleach to remove the smell of freezer burn…
dumbass@leminal.space 19 hours ago
So that’s why I can’t get my chicken to taste restaurant quality!
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I watched a cooking video a few years ago about cooking a whole chicken. In the video it was said “we’re not going to wash the chicken”. I thought just the idea of washing a chicken was strange, so I checked the comments. It was a trainwreck of people being freaked out and disgusted by how she didn’t wash the chicken.
I had to search through several forums and articles afterwards to confirm that I wasn’t insane, and that I hadn’t lived my whole life with disgusting food habits. But the topic of washing a chicken befire you cook it is a strangely divided subject.
Dasus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My eggs have chickenshit on them and thats’ why they don’t need refrigeration like you do in the US.
Also, I can eat them raw if I like. Finnish health authorities sign off on that.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
That isn’t entirely correct, the layer of mucous around the egg is called the bloom - it isn’t shit that protects the egg. The bloom actually protects the egg from bacteria that live in the chicken shit, and washing them removes that layer of mucous . Even still, the likelihood of getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.
Source: I have chickens.
Dasus@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
it isn’t shit that protects the egg
Lol I never claimed it is.
But if there’s shit on the egg, it strongly implies they haven’t been washed and thus have an intact bloom.
getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.
Not in Finland. That high percentages, that is.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 22 hours ago
Lots of people in the US have backyard chickens and their eggs have shit on them. A lot of us still refrigerate them though (I do). Once you’re raised with it, it’s a hard mindset to break.
Dasus@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Oh I refrigerate my eggs as well. I don’t have my own though.
The shit itself isn’t protective, but having it there is a sign the eggs aren’t washed like they do in the US egg industry, which removes some sort of protection from the exterior of the shell, which is why US eggs often need refrigeration.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 21 hours ago
Aussie supermarkets sometimes refrigerate eggs and sometimes not. No idea what’s going on with them.
nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
I just spray paint mine. Last for months.
Dasus@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
My egg do last for months without going bad and they’re not refrigerated.
How long do your eggs last?
Also if you don’t know whether eggs are bad or not, see if they float. If they float, there’s sulphur gas in them and they’re no good anymore.
If they sink though, even if they sort of bob upwards from the bottom but still are at the bottom, they’re good.
Trilobite@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I used to have a roommate that would wash her veggies and meat in the soapy dishwasher freaking disgusting
Manalith@midwest.social 1 day ago
So that’s why cilantro tastes like that?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 days ago
This is like finding out that there are Flat Earthers that actually believe and it’s not just a satirical joke.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I bring this up every so often but I remember flat earth being about questioning science and understanding how to think for yourself… That understanding the earth was round was such a simple thing to do just by really looking at the horizon… You could then question other science and try to see how it could be wrong… It was like a gateway into critical thinking or something…
But I never could find any reference to the old club that was started for it or find anything on the topic… I also haven’t looked in a while and most of the information is just now about how these people are incorrect and also craziness
zephorah@lemm.ee 2 days ago
As a middle aged person who is generally healthy, I’ve never washed chicken. On a side note, we eat chicken weekly. I’ve not experienced diarrhea, or been really sick, or died post chicken eating. I could safely say 1/2 of the days of the year, at least, involve basic butcher parted out chicken, and it is delicious.
Washing a backyard/farm chicken post killing/plucking to remove blood and debris, sure. But what is the logic behind this strange internet trend?
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 days ago
You, like me, probably just cook the chicken properly.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Washed or not, chicken needs to be cooked properly, there’s nothing people do by washing the outside that will kill the salmonella inside the muscle. Hell, cooking will kill it on the surface right away so I don’t know what people think they’re doing by washing the outside!
klemptor@startrek.website 2 days ago
I think it’s just how boomers were raised. I’m middle-aged and I don’t wash chicken, but my boomer mom is horrified at the thought. She came for a visit and made sure I washed the chicken before I cooked with it. 🙄
lath@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The idea would be that due to suspected unsanitary conditions in which mass-produced meat products are collected and transported, additional substances and materials not fit for consumption become attached and go unnoticed.
Washing would remove the extra stuff supposedly.
2ugly2live@lemmy.world 2 days ago
My mom has always made me “wash chicken,” which would just be running it under water. Just chicken, nothing else.
I used to do it out of habit, but laziness seems to have worked in my favor this time.
revlayle@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I do not think I have ever washed any chicken I have prepared, EVER
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not washing your chicken with vinegar gives it a dirty taste. Don’t @ me.
Furbag@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The only time I would ever wash a chicken is if I’m going to brine it in something. Otherwise it cooks just fine.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Just stick it in the dishwasher.
Stern@lemmy.world 2 days ago
taste like plain shit after
does homey not season his shit?
PanArab@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Brine don’t wash
riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
not eaying animal products has made my life so much easier in that regard. no need to worry about all the pitentially dangerous stuff on and in dead animals, raised in disgusting conditions :3
festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
politics? earth shape? religion? nah, i like to argue about washing or not the chicken when preparing it
mlg@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Does washing actually cause the fat to come off though?
I’ve had bloody chicken before which you do actually want to wash/clean off because cooked blood will completely destroy your dish.
Otherwise you can cut off some cartilage and hard fat that won’t render when cooked. No need to wash it.
AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 2 days ago
What kind of idiot doesn’t wash their food after getting it from the store
GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 2 days ago
So where I live, frozen chicken is cut on a wooden chopping board overlaid with pieces of the carton it came it. Without washing you’ll end up with random bits of cardboard, wood, fish fins and possibly sand.
passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Chinese youtube chef recommends washing chicken to reduce the albumin levels and help tenderize, never tested it personally and I definitely don’t wash meat
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.
Cook it properly.
If you don’t know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Washed chicken won’t be any safer if it’s undercooked, salmonella isn’t a surface only danger.
Cliff@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And by washing it you might spread the salmonella all over the place.
__nobodynowhere@startrek.website 2 days ago
Do people wash pork chops? steaks? hamburgers?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 days ago
People of West Indian descent often wash meat like pork and beef with a vinegar solution, but not ground meat