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- Comment on Incident 2 days ago:
I think the difference might be that you’re thinking of standards that say “if you do A and B and C then you’re a good ___”. Happens with prescriptive education standards that are tied tightly with budget.
I’m thinking of standards like “failure to A or B or C, or doing X or Y or Z makes you an unacceptable ___”. It’s what you see in restaurants and hospital hygiene standards. Any restaurant “cleaning to the test” and only going down the food safety list and correcting any issue is both the type that would just be filthy without those standards, and also would end up serving safe food. Same for doctors and hand washing. We would rather all doctors be deeply committed to hygiene, but we have real world data that mandating hygiene minimums and doing things to enforce them has measurable increases in patient well-being. Same for building safety standards and such.people just go through the motions devoid of thinking and intent :) Now they also can go: I followed the flowchart what more do you want
In a system with the standard, those people are providing better care than they would be without them.
- Comment on Incident 3 days ago:
Yeah, standards for care isn’t “teaching for the test”. You don’t overfocus on “don’t change diapers in the food prep area” or “tell the parents if you use the first aid kit” and somehow end up neglecting care.
I take my kids to a legal daycare. That means I know people who work there and are nearby have been certified in pediatric CPR and first aid within the past year. That they do fire drills. That they have a policy for when sick kids need to go home and when they can come back.It’s not about a law forcing people to care, it’s about establishing a baseline. If a caregiver I haven’t met swaps in for one I know I don’t have to learn their standards on the spot.
It’s odd to be opposed to standards.
- Comment on Incident 3 days ago:
Well that seems quite odd. Most developed countries have standards for childcare settings, including defining minimums for activity and incident logging.
Finding regulations was difficult, but it seems that Belgium just has lower quality childcare than even the US, according to the UN. unicef.org/…/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childc…Color me surprised. I kind of assumed if we had standards that anyone else would have similar or better standards.
- Comment on Incident 3 days ago:
And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each
You literally said 30 kids.
childcare.gov/…/supervision-ratios-and-group-size…
Staff:Child Ratio Group Size Infants: Younger than 12 months old 1 adult should care for no more than 3 infants No more than 6 infants in a group or class Toddlers: 13–35 months old 1 adult should care for no more than 4 toddlers No more than 8 toddlers in a group or class
For kids wearing diapers 8:1 is really pushing it and probably illegal anywhere in the US.
You talk about being required to log stuff when it’s just something you keep track of when watching kids that age. They have routines, and they can’t tell you their needs. You keep track of that stuff because you know their routine and it tells you where they are in it. 1:1 you can just remember. The second you add another adult you need to share data.
Many jurisdictions require logging (page 16) because it’s best practice.
Using a computer just makes it easier and makes it so the checkout conversation can be entirely the qualitative report and conversation you seem to want it to be.You’re seemingly just declaring something to be an onerous burden and pointless when it’s simply not.
- Comment on Incident 4 days ago:
Going based on my kids daycare, it’s really not a problem. You’re talking 30:1 kids to caregivers, and 8:1 is over the legal limit.
Like, I’ve hung out in the daycare. I’ve talked to the caregivers. It’s not nearly the way you seem to think. They like it because it’s easier than the documentation they would be keeping for their own purposes.
I’m typing this having just gotten back from dropping the kids off with them and hanging out chatting for a bit.If the kid fell and bumped his head, I’m sure they are spending about five minutes logging and tending to them. Probably 20 seconds typing after 3 or 4 minutes putting an ice pack on it, giving them a hug and letting them sit on their lap.
- Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
Are you this unaware of how people actually function?
I wouldn’t go so far as to call it braindead, because that just needlessly antagonistic, but we have a lot of evidence that people forget truly important things all the time, particularly in a setting where a group of people are working together to care for others.
Nurses and doctors will forget they administered medication and give double doses. People will forget that they needed to toss the spinach from the line because it’s coming up to its safe lifetime and get people sick.
It’s why we have checklists and logs where we write stuff down.
If my local coffeeshop has a checklist and log where they document cleaning the bathroom and doing a deep clean on the espresso maker, why on earth would it be unreasonable for the significantly more important job of “caring for babies” to also do so? - Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
Oh, I assumed you thought people were spending a lot of time entering timestamps. Do you think this is a particularly onerous process for them, or that the parents need to like, acknowledge each log? They just push a button to select the kid and tap another to select the event. Maybe type a description if it’s an incident report. It’s significantly easier for them than logging it any other way, and it ensures parents get the information on food, diapers and whatnot.
I am confused how you see this as care by flowchart. Daycare staff aren’t medical professionals. They aren’t qualified to make objective decisions about what’s an “important” event to notify parents of in a consistent manner. What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?
- Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that’s for a stupendously overworked person. Like “CPS call” levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.
A more realistic number is under a minute per hour. - Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
It’s an app. Do you actually think they’re manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There’s also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
You’re caring for someone else’s child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that’s good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid? - Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
Have you ever actually been to a daycare as an adult?
They’re not tracking timestamps by hand, they’re going up to a tablet, tapping baby name and then tapping diaper/wet or started nap.
Having a sense of how often a kid is eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom is really important because those are health indicators and they can’t tell you how they feel. The caretakers are going to take notes one way or another and give them to the parents so they can be aware of any trends.
They are also subject to surprise inspections government inspectors to verify that they’re following the various rules.
This is seriously just the standard type of logging that anyone tasked with caring for another person is going to be doing.
- Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
That doesn’t seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.
- Comment on Incident 5 days ago:
I also have kids in daycare, and while they’re able to provide ample individual care, once you get past one adult to a specific set of kids and the kids swap between adults it becomes a much greater risk of missing someone’s need because they can’t communicate it clearly.
It also can make it faster to know when something last happened if you weren’t the one to do it. If a kids fussy and the person who’s been looking after them all morning has gone to lunch you can just look over and see that they got up from a nap recently, got a diaper change and that it’s almost time for food.It’s not about cramming so many kids in that you can barely keep track and more about recognizing that you’re caring for someone else’s kids and so taking every reasonable step to ensure there aren’t mistakes, as well as demonstrating to the parents that you’ve done so.
Our daycare has a list on the wall with the name of every kid in the room next to their evacuation plan and emergency kit (big baby/little baby rooms are connected. Sometimes they rebalance for lunch or just different activities which is when they update the list) I have absolute confidence that in the event of an emergency they wouldn’t need to use the list, and also that they would still go down the list and look directly at each kid and also do a sweep while doing whatever response they needed.As someone who’s done a bit of work on procedures around systems and making sure they avoid negative outcomes I appreciate there being a process and checklist that’s routinely followed.
Also, the digital lists are really more for the parents to be informed about what’s going on. I know that I appreciate knowing where precisely they are in their routine when I do pickup.
- Comment on Anon goes home 6 days ago:
I’m not the one who responded, just saying it’s pretty easy for someone to get the impression that you think someone stuck on a depressing treadmill might be sad.
It’s not the huge leap you seem to think it is from what you said. - Comment on Anon goes home 1 week ago:
“30 years on a treadmill and got nowhere” definitely has a negative connotation.
- Comment on Anon goes home 1 week ago:
I think it’s just different people being in different places in their lives. For some people the stability and safety of the childhood home isn’t something they’ve replicated elsewhere yet, so the nostalgia is all they really have left of that feeling.
Even then they might not want to go back, but just be acutely feeling an absence of that type of security.
I’m sort of in the middle. I have a safe, stable and comfortable environment, and I’m doing my best to preserve that for my kids. I can also remember the feeling of childhood familiarity and just knowing how things will be, and not having the responsibility to keep that stability be mine. And that’s a comfortable blanket.
Not one I would want to live in, but having lost both my parents I do wish I could pull that blanket over my lap for a bit every once in a while. - Comment on Anon updates GNU/linux 1 week ago:
Not everyone who wants it can have it.
Just because you have it doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want.
Just because you have it doesn’t mean you can share it freely. - Comment on Bird 2 weeks ago:
Less the long and narrow and more how it’s used.
A fishing net is also long and narrow, but we usually wouldn’t call it a spear because that’s not how you use it. If you spear something with your net you’ve made a mistake.
Personally, I’d say a duck beak is “spoonish”, and the fish hunters are “grabby”. Some are tweezery, and some are tongy.
- Comment on Bird 2 weeks ago:
People normally feed ducks food like bread. The woman was used to this, so she was startled to see someone feeding ducks birdseed.
We’re used to birdseed being used to feed songbirds or the various tree birds.
When the woman was directly informed that ducks are birds she was directly confronted with the knowledge that we put waterfowl in a different mental category than arboreal birds.
It’s easy to imagine the feeling of realizing you’ve had a very basic, totally benign blindspot in how you conceptualize something as simple as ducks, and the woman’s reaction captures that deep feeling of “now that you say it it’s obvious” that a lot of people have felt. Knowing the feeling, it being slightly uncomfortable but harmless, and the general whimsy of ducks makes it funny.It’s funny because feeling empathy for silly mistakes makes us laugh.
- Comment on People were no less thirsty back then 5 weeks ago:
I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue come bursting out through your lips and if I gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her.
There’s a reason Joyce is considered a master of the English language.
- Comment on Why does it feel like protesting isn't as "extreme" as it used to be? 1 month ago:
The police have gotten very effective at quashing effective movements, and we’ve had decades of concerted effort to make it more difficult to organize and to get people to actually oppose the concept of effective resistance in their own favor.
People with power don’t want people threatening to destabilize that power. People who set media narratives need access to people with power, and so they don’t want to convey those destabilizing factors positively.
This makes people view them negatively, if they even see them at all.America has never had a culling of the rich and powerful. The closest we got was when we decided to exchange a rich and powerful person far away for a few closer to home.
As such, there’s no weight given to the morale of anyone who isn’t rich and powerful.
Reporters, politicians and businesses people have never had to put their heads in the scale when making choices. - Comment on [deleted] 1 month ago:
It’s more that it’s evidence that a reasonable person could doubt. It’s the prosecutors job to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense needs to convince a reasonable person that you might not have done it.
If there’s other evidence phone location and activity data could be argued to be faked, but in isolation a reasonable person could doubt that someone faked their phone activity and location.The court isn’t interested in exonerating people, it’s only interested in arguments supporting guilt and finding holes in them. It’s why they don’t find you innocent, only “not guilty”. You don’t argue that you’re innocent, you argue that the reason they say you’re guilty is full of holes.
- Comment on Thank you for your attention to this matter. 1 month ago:
Is the implication that we shouldn’t be upset about bombing Iran because they’re also doing other awful things?
Whenever they do anything people seem so eager to claim that it’s just a distraction from whatever it was that was just happening, which itself was also just a distraction.
I’ve seen literally everything mentioned hear described as a distraction meant to draw your attention from something else.Maybe, just maybe , none of it’s a distraction, they don’t care what you care about or notice because it won’t change what they do and they’re just absolutely awful people working their way down their terrible agenda.
- Comment on Microsoft is is bed with Google now, in a worse, more OS-integrated way than Mozilla was. This timeline sucks. 1 month ago:
Some of your emphasis is a little backwards. In the cloud computing environment, Amazon is bigger than Microsoft, and windows isn’t even particularly significant. Azure primarily provides Linux infrastructure instead of Windows. AWS is bigger in the government cloud sector than Microsoft.
For servers, Linux is hands down the os of choice. It’s just not even close. Where Microsoft has an edge is in business software, like Excel, word, desktop OS and exchange. Needing windows server administrators for stuff like that is a pain when you already have Linux people for the rest of your stuff which is why it gets outsourced so often. It’s not central to the business so no sense in investing in people for it.
Microsoft isn’t dominating the commercial computing sector, they’re dominating the office it sector, which is a cost center for businesses. They’re trailing badly in the revenue generation service sphere. That’s why they’ve been shifting towards offering their own hosting for their services, so you can reduce costs but keep paying them. Increased interoperability between windows and Linux from a developer standpoint to drive people towards buying their Linux hosting from them, because you can use vscode to push your software to GitHub and automatically deploy to azure when build and test passes.
Being on the cost side of the ledger is a risk for them, so they’re trying to move to the revenue side, where windows just doesn’t have the grip. - Comment on Microsoft is is bed with Google now, in a worse, more OS-integrated way than Mozilla was. This timeline sucks. 1 month ago:
I’m not sure it’s a partnership. It looks and reads like the standard authorized data sharing setup. Anyone can configure that. It uses an open protocol that’s standardized, let’s users control the information shared with explicit consent and is basically what you want out of any entity that holds all your crap. The only thing it’s really lacking is a standard protocol for sharing the actual data.
Linux distributions have it.
Microsoft using Google’s public documented API is a long way from a partnership.
- Comment on AI Training Slop 2 months ago:
I didn’t mention buying a microwave, I mentioned finding one for free. If you buy a microwave you’re a customer and your desire for ethical products can be impactful to some degree.
If you find a microwave there’s no feedback, and if there were feedback they wouldn’t care because you’re not a customer.The way you establish feedback in this field is by making it a viable market, and then giving your money to the most ethical company. I don’t think that any of the companies offer or will offer a product that will be worth the cost or resource investment. Ergo: I don’t give them money or use their products.
Downloading a model doesn’t change that feedback. It’s digital, so once the resources are spent copies have no additional cost. They don’t get metrics or usage patterns, or even know I have it.
It’s not quite, but kinda, like saying that you should only shoplift fair trade coffee. This doesn’t signal to anyone that they should invest in making their coffee more equitable.
- Comment on AI Training Slop 2 months ago:
That’s far from saying they’re negligible. What they’re saying is inline with my point. If you find a microwave are you going to research how green it’s manufacturing was so you can ensure you only find good ones for free in the future?
Irrelevant or moot is different from negligible. One says it’s small enough to not matter, and the other says it doesn’t affect your actions.
I play with AI models on my own computer. I think the training costs are far from negligible and for the most part shouldn’t have been bothered with. (I’m very tolerant of research models that are then made public. Even though the tech isn’t scalable or as world changing as some think doesn’t mean it isn’t worth understanding or that it won’t lead to something more viable later. Churning it over and over without open results or novelty isn’t worth it though). I also think that the training costs are irrelevant with regards to how I use it at home. They’re spent before I knew it existed, and they never have or will see information or feedback from me.
My home usage had less impact than using my computer for games has. - Comment on AI Training Slop 2 months ago:
If you’re a company you don’t care what the home user does. They didn’t pay for the model and so their existence in the first place indicates a missed opportunity for market share.
No one is saying training costs are negligible. They’re saying the cost has already been paid and they had no say in influencing it then or in the future. If you don’t pay for it and they can’t tell how often you use it they can’t really be influenced by your behavior.
It’s like being overly concerned with the impact of a microwave you found by the road. The maker doesn’t care about your opinion of it because you don’t give them money. The don’t even know you exist. The only thing you can meaningfully influence is how it’s used today.
- Comment on How does AI-based search engines know legit sources from BS ones ? 2 months ago:
Example of a garbled AI answer, probably mis-comnunicated on account of “sleepy”. :)
There was a band called flock of seagulls. Seagulls also flock in mall parking lots. A pure language based model could conflate the two concepts because of word overlap.
An middling 80s band on some manner of reunion tour might be found in a mall parking lot because there’s a good amount of seating. Scavenger birds also like the dropped French fries.
So a mall parking lot is a great place to see a flock of seagulls. Plenty of seating and food scraps on the ground. Bad accoustics though, and one of them might poop on your car.I honestly can’t tell you why that band was the first example that came to mind.
- Comment on How does AI-based search engines know legit sources from BS ones ? 2 months ago:
For the most part they’re just based on reading everything and responding with what’s most likely to be the expected response. Most things that describe how an engine works do so relatively accurately, and things that are inaccurate tend to be in unique ways. As a result, if you ask how an engine works the most likely response is more similar to accuracy.
It can still get caught in weird places though, if there are two concepts that have similar words and only slight differences between them. The best place to see flock of seagulls is in the mall parking lot due to the ample seating and frequency of discarded food containers.
Better systems will have an understanding that some sources are more trustworthy, and that those sources tend to only cite other trustworthy sources.
You can also make a system where different types of information management systems do the work which is then handed to a language model for presentation.
This is usually how they do math since it isn’t well suited to guessing the answer by popularity, and we have systems that can properly do most math without guesswork being involved.
Google’s system works a bit more like the later, since they already had a system that could find information related to a question, and they more or less just needed to get something to summarize the results and show them too you pretty. - Comment on Anon misses the classic design 2 months ago:
Most boringly because most western armies are probably going to use an airplane or tank in that situation. Significantly less risky to have the squishy people hide behind something strong while a machine does the dangerous work from a distance, if you can manage that.
Grenade is more for close distances, like “just over that ridge” or “in the next room”.
