It's all SO simple!

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• WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “If you legitimately don’t consent to the calories, the body has a way of trying to shut that whole thing down.” - Todd Akin

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  • Seefoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Now replace calories with rape

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    • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      That sounds terrible.

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    • Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I believe that was the reference yes

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  • WanakaTree@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sort of describes bulimia I guess

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• Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Jokes on you I got some sort of undiagnosed malabsorption issues and won’t get fat even when I eat burgers and candy and alcohol day after day.

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  • baltakatei@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That sounds like a very expensive chronic issue.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nice superpower.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sort of and also not. Not getting energy from food also means I have no energy for you know, existing.

      So while I might not need to worry about getting fat, I’ve also nowhere to display not being fat.

      I tend to sleep quite a lot. Image

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      no no it is not.

      being a bag of skeletons that do not like each other, eating 5000 calories a day and losing weight, that is not fun.

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• DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Addicted to alcohol: Stop drinking. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

  Addicted to cigarettes: Stop smoking. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

  Addicted to crack: Stop smoking crack. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

  Addicted to food: Must be your fault for being weak-willed. Just don’t consume so much of that thing that you’re addicted to. You can control your addiction. Just stop being a loser…

  The literal solution to every addiction is stop it, cold turkey. One Day At A Time. But you can’t stop eating food. You’ll die.

  So it’s as if an alcoholic has to constantly have just a little alcohol. Or a crackhead has to keep smoking crack, but only every once in a while. No problem, just control yourself…

  I’m sure telling people that they’re pieces of shit for eating food will fix the problem, eventually. We just have to try a little harder.

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  • TwilitSky@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The way chemicals interact with dopamine, some of those substances are a LOT harder than others. You just need to change the food you eat. I found fasting easier than meticulous dieting. I had the willpower and was enable to accept the simplicity of simply not eating.

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    • DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Oh for sure…fasting is waaay easier. That’s kinda my point. Fasting is literally not eating.

      Unfortunately you can’t just do it forever. Well I mean, you can…

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  • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Companies also try to make foods as addictive as possible and as flashy as possible. It’s like avoiding the constant casino ads as a gambling addict, but like if you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.

      at least 3 times a day, plus once in a while in between, maybe on your phone.

      good luck not going bankrupt

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    on top of that, if someone is using excess food to “self medicate” issues like… IDK, anxiety? by forcing the body to go from the Sympathetic nervous system response to the Parasympathetic nervous system response… yeah. Fun coping mechanism makes one fat.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system#…

    en.wikipedia.org/…/Parasympathetic_nervous_system

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s just one approach to addiction. Personally, I think it assumes people are weak with no self-control, which seems to be exactly the argument you’re making.

    The emphasis on abstinence and any exposure at all being a failure might even make binging more likely if someone gives in just a little, as their counter is now reset, so might as well take advantage.

    And the obsession/fascination with the addiction target continues or even gets ramped up.

    I like the moderation approach a lot better. I don’t binge drink every weekend anymore, but if I do feel like having a drink every now and then, I just do instead of spiraling because I need to treat it like some sort of personal failure.

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I control my addictions by limiting supply. I buy a fifth of bourbon and a case of beer once a month and that’s what I get. If I go on a bender for a week and run out tough shit.

    I don’t have problems with overeating but if I did my strategy would be to have a limited supply of things I don’t have to cook. No chips or soda or sugary bullshit. Just full ingredients that have to be prepped and cooked. When I did cook or order food it would be in an amount that’s appropriate. Add friction between me and the things that are a problem for me so it’s easier to put off consuming them. Maybe that would work. I don’t know.

    I also have an abhorrence for delivery services so that helps too.

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    • TwilitSky@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The bourbon and the case of beer are just empty calories and cancer-causing carcinogens. They’re an escape but there are other escapes out there that won’t harm you.

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• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  omg guys! this actually works!

  I was just eating a fat burger for lunch and was getting really full. I wasn’t sure how I could finish the rest of it and I just told the calories to fuck off and I was able to finish the whole thing!

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• Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is a joke but I lost 20 pounds so far just by eating half as much as I normally would.

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  • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s the way it works, you’re no joke homie

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thermodynamics is a cruel but fair mistress

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  • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Reminder to readers thay there is a stark difference between “cutting back” and starving yourself.

    Smaller portions and less calorie-dense options make a huge difference over time.

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    • Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s also much more sustainable. Make small tweaks as you go versus making big, drastic swings at your eating habits.

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    • kittykillinit@lemy.lol ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This might sound weird, but after a point it’s easier to just forego eating. It can be kind of dangerous how effective it is, but anyone who has gone a long time without food probably recognizes how their body stops bothering them with hunger.

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Also, fruits are better than fruit-juice, unless you really need those quick calories.

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  • criss_cross@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It is, the trick is it’s easier said than done for people.

    It’s tricky to require your brain and overhaul your habits.

    I say this as someone who also has lost 25 lbs. there’s a reason people refer to it as a journey.

    I say this less to diminish your point and more for support of others who are going through this thinking “man this is impossible but everyone makes it sound easy”. It’s not. It’s a marathon not a sprint.

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lots of things are easy to do once, but doing them continuously for as long as necessary is extremely hard.

      That being said I was starving for like two weeks but eventually I found I can’t eat that much anymore and it got easier.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s simple math, consume more than what goes in.

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yep. And the last time I did this I helped by keeping my house around 50 degrees all the time. I figure if we spend most of our energy keeping warm then making that harder would burn more calories.

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you think that’s something you’ll be able to keep doing for the long term? Or, do you expect that you’ll put the weight back on when you inevitably give up and start eating more?

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Now that I’m used to eating less I’ve found that I simply can’t eat like I used to without discomfort.

      Case in point: last night I got an Italian sub and was full after half of it, while previously I would have housed the entire thing.

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• NoodlePoint@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In my country, fast food is too expensive, much cheaper to be eating homestyle meals at a roadside shop.

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  • generic_computers@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is that country the US? /s

    But seriously, fast food isn’t cheap anymore. It’s cheaper to go to a real sub shop than it is to go to Subway! Or just make food at home.

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    • UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      When I vacationned in the US I was always taken aback by how much fast food used to be cheaper than an actual hearthy meal you cook yourself… Unless you forego the protein…

      That’s all sorts of fucked up.

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can get a fucking steak dinner for the price a some of the more expensive fast food combos around me. Shit is crazy.

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  • vinyl@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I misread the last part as “roadside slop” 😭

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  YSK: If you are an American Citizen or US Tax Resident, your first 200 pounds of fat is legally exempt and therefore does not count for BMI Purposes. Nutritionists hate this one simple trick!

  Follow me for more advice.

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• DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Every fat person on earth already knows that too much food makes you fat.

  Yet somehow, even armed with this knowledge, we’re all fat.

  Curious.

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  • TwilitSky@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A significant part of it is the stuff they put in our food.

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  • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s funny how you never visualise the person on an internet forum as fat, but some of the people typing here are fat.

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    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We tens to visualise the people typing like us. At least, I do

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Most.

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  • anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What happened in the 80s?

    80s

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    • matlag@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A combination of sugar subsidies, market penetration of transformed food while the food industry figured they could make their customers sugar-addict, the start of GDP and minimum salary drifting away from each other, meaning poor households no longer able to afford quality food, and running through 2 or 3 jobs doesn’t leave you much time to cook.

      So, in a summary: that’s completely a personal responsibility issue.

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    • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t the correct answer that glucose-fructose syrup got subsidised?? (I might have my history wrong)

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• stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?

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  • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    no reason to ai pennyworth over ronald. mr McDonald has a vastly greater kill count.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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• kittykillinit@lemy.lol ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I feel like a lot of people who are addicted to food don’t have much else in their life to keep them excited.

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  • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Plenty of keep our lives exciting by addictionmaxing. Food, booze, cigarettes, drugs, sex, gambling, shopping, animal hoarding…

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  • fishy@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about.

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    • kittykillinit@lemy.lol ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why?

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  • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s like any addiction really, easy to slip into even if everything is fine, and when 1 thing goes wrong you turn to it. It literally makes you feel better in the short term and your brain tells you to do it.

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• glibg10b@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This but unironically. It’s a way more efficient way to lose weight than exercise. And it doesn’t come with the Ozempic side effects

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  • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It can definitely have side effects. Psychological (eating disorders, persistent) and physical (unbalanced diet, or fatigue because the body gets in the “oh fuck must conserve energy” mode).

    There is no one size fits all solution. A random 50 year old IT worker with a sedentary lifestyle and a Big Mac diet does not need the same help as a physically active 25 year old with severe hormonal imbalances. Using Ozempic is bad in the former case, but so is shaming the latter person for relying on it.

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  • Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I lost 35kg within 8 months by going hardcore on controlling my diet. I did have to eat more once I started exercising, which I needed to because all the muscle was melting away right along the fat. It definitely works, but I did “fall off the wagon” once I stopped counting the calories. Now I’m trying to find that long term balance of sport and diet I can maintain in the long run.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    True, it doesn’t have the side effect of continuous hunger, feeling deprived, constant cravings, until you explode with binge eating. That would never happen

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve actually tried fasting for fun and it doesn’t really cause binge eating, as long as you do it right.
      But then again, my regular diet does not contain stuff from industrial fast food chains.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Intermittent fasting/OMAD and light exercise (walking, a bit of cycling) is in my opinion a way easier to drop massive amounts of weight in a short time. Light exercise keeps your body healthy while operating at a caloric defecit

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    • mech@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just don’t get OMAD mixed up with GOMAD.

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  • kittykillinit@lemy.lol ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I completely agree.

    What’s sad is people will torture themselves if they’re overweight by working out, and then reward themselves with food afterwards.

    The worst advice we gave people is telling them they shouldn’t skip meals if they’re trying to lose weight. Americans/Westerners really don’t care about finding solutions; only looking like they do.

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• harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Or move to rural Britain. Food so gross you’d rather starve.

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• abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There’s a lot of people in here talking about fitness, fasting, etc. but it really just comes down to calories in, calories out.

  You have to acknowledge what you’re eating and what it does to your body. Calling out yourself, and the foods you eat.

  All you need is:

  1. How many calories in a serving
  2. How big is a serving
  3. How many calories can I have today
  4. Self control
  5. Water

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• Abbysimons@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If only it were that simple. 😅 Most people know what they should do, the hard part is building habits that actually stick over time.

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• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean…yes?

  I get that this is supposed to be a joke, but, I don’t get the joke. This is literally how weight loss works.

  Eat less.

  Eat healthier.

  Exercise.

  Weight loss is hard because it’s hard to stick to it. But the concepts aren’t complicated. Caleries in minus caleries burned equals caleries stored as fat.

  Less caleries means less unburned caleries means less fat.

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• Mailloche@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lost 100 pounds going vegan. 10 years later lost another 15 pounds adopting running as a passion. Ten years later gained 15 pounds becoming a weight lifter. Ten more years after that I weight 185 pounds, body fat 12-15% , feel strong look great. Now I added triathlons to my routine.

  It’s both nutrition and staying active. We’re such lazy animals that we have to fight our impulse to sit still and eat silly … Who knew that the key is having a healthy, active lifestyle…

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• jeffep@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I understand the burger bit but who eats a human hand? That’s just gross

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• flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Were you raped by big burger, give the law offices of James Scott Farrin…right now.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They should invent food that has 0 calories to eat when you’re bored instead of hungry.

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• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve got that fun bit of autism where I can just will myself to not be hungry. Can only do it so often before my instincts put a stop to that by making me ravenous for like 2 days straight though. Probably shouldn’t be doing it for days at a time now that I think about it.

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• lasta@piefed.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  WITHDRAW CONSENT (projectile vomits)

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• gray@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Without food, what will happen to shit?

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• Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My god why didn’t I think of that!

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I KNOW MY HIPAA RIGHTS.

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• FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Some people have no sense of actions resulting in consequences. Some people will eat fattening food and then complain as if they had no choice in the matter. Much like in college when you constantly hear people complaining that they’re not ready for an exam because they spent last evening drunk watching TV instead of studying, as if that wasn’t a choice they made.

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• SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You know they tube feed patients in comas, right? The patient presumably didn’t give consent, and yet I’m pretty sure that’s legal.

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• wabafee@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I blame dopamine

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• Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fasting is a real thing

  Ramadan

  Lent

  And just straight up fasting or intermittent fasting

  It’s healthy too. Just dont, if youre pregnant, a child, under nourished, under weight, sick etc etc

  And during a fast… feel bad? Just eat.

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• blujan@sopuli.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Technically true most of the times

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not only I consent, but I actually want it to happen. That’s the issue.

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