The autistic experience summarized
Anon describes experience
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sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 20 minutes ago
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 9 hours ago
Average autism experience tbh
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
That, and teachers really fucking hate being called out on something for some reason.
Taleya@aussie.zone 9 minutes ago
All they got in life is their self-declared superiority over literal children
k0e3@lemmy.ca 11 minutes ago
Teachers and parents. So many tend to double down when you point out their mistakes.
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 9 hours ago
All my teachers were fine with it honestly :3 at least after primary school… if you corrected them they might’ve given you extra credit
But the general notion of saying something correct and people saying that that’s wrong, and not knowing why still stands
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Really? Seems like.a very shit teacher and school. Dont think a 7 yr old getting upset by that is unusual. Id be furious of that had happened to my kid.
Gaja0@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
They need you to feel like less so they can feel like more. Their comfort trumps your reality. Bystanders are more comfortable appeasing bullies than caring for victims.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Yep, am autistic, can confirm.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
Union of Kobolds
wait is that a thing?
Randelung@lemmy.world 48 minutes ago
math fraud. top kek.
wpb@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
7 when the story happened, 15 years later in 2020, so I’m supposed to believe this guy is 7 - 15 + 2025 - 2020 = -3 today. Something doesn’t check out about this story.
Trail@lemmy.world 42 minutes ago
What the actual fuck.
nickiwest@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The bajillion stories in the comments about horrible experiences with math just reinforce the fact that I’ve made the right career choice.
I became an elementary teacher as a second career specifically because so many elementary teachers are absolutely terrible at teaching math. (Mostly because they don’t actually understand the math that they’re teaching. In my university cohort, almost 50% of my classmates failed the math entrance exam the first time. There was nothing more complex than 5th grade math on that test.)
Students should be allowed to use the strategies that work for them, and they should definitely never be punished for knowing math from higher grade levels.
If a student in my class knows something more advanced, I will challenge them to use grade-level-appropriate strategies to prove that their answers are correct. And if they demonstrate that they can do both, I’ll give them more advanced work to help them grow.
scarilog@lemmy.world 20 minutes ago
Seeing several of the most brain-dead people I knew in high school going into teaching really made me lose a little respect for teachers. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had some great teachers, but this really explains all the shitty ones.
psud@aussie.zone 2 hours ago
There’s good out there too. I was good at maths in school and was encouraged to do more advanced stuff
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Well this didn’t happen.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 hours ago
We had computer classes where we had to learn about spreadsheets.
To do a number plus ten percent we had to put in A1+A1*10/100
I did A1*1.1 like a normal person.
She then went round to make sure everyone had put it in correctly. Got annoyed at me and changed A1 to something else to expose my folly.
Was visibly annoyed when it showed the right answer.
needanke@feddit.org 5 hours ago
(I don’t think taht was your teachers point at all, but) couldn’t the fifferent formulas produced different rounding errors due to floating point percision?
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Excel has a 15 point float, a quadrillionth, which should be enough for anything you were using excel for.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
Doubtful, but if anything mine would be more accurate. Fewer calculation steps to lose precision on. I think most spreadsheet software fudges floating point precision anyway. A computer programmer may accept that 0.1+0.2 is not 0.3 but an accountant or mathematician would not be having it.
I think she was just shit at maths tbh. As a kid you sort of assume all the teachers know more than you about every subject, and that’s not the case at all.
RBWells@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I can believe this. Not fake, not gay. The math teaching of the past was so dumb. Even now, I have 2 kids who never got a bad math teacher and still love math; two who did (one teacher who actually thought women ought not get higher education) and those two do not
And a good math teacher is a treasure beyond words. Mr. Galing, if I could have had you teach my kids through high school I would have taken them anywhere.
tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
how many kids do you have?
RBWells@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
4 I gave birth to plus 5 step kids - when we married 3 were already grown and 4 were in high school, only 2 were small (and we doubled up on birth control) so we didn’t have an impossible household situation. Enough kids to draw conclusions about the school system though.
CluckN@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
How many loaves of bread have you eaten?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
There’s not much worse as a kid in a learning environment, or even with your parent(s), to be shut down painfully for being right about something that they don’t know or don’t think you know. Really crushes the satisfaction of nailing a win and turns it into bitterness and starts the lifelong process of keeping your mouth shut when you’re right and letting others win when wrong.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
On the other hand, its a crash course in reality of just because you’re right it doesn’t mean anyone gives a shit
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
I will make them give a shit with my loud voice and this gun I found!
RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 4 hours ago
So the school did its job just right then. High five, I quietly let people be wrong too.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
This shit happened to me, but in kindergarten. I grew up in a bilingual house. I spoke English and Spanish equally. I went to the school with my mom to get assessed. She said I could read and was bilingual. The teacher didn’t believe it and made me read from one of their books.
To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that “purple” was “porpuda” and “lizard” wad “lizardo.” Shit like that… My mom put me in another school.
I’m 48 and still laugh about lizardo. How absolutely stupid.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
When I was in kindergarten, my mom got a call day 1 because I didn’t know how to count to 10 supposedly. Even though I did it multiple times. I just did it in Japanese cause they never requested I do it in English. Tbf, I’m white and not bilingual.
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
why does this gat dang kid keep complaining about his itchy knee?!?
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Lol one of my ex girlfriends had a “karate” teacher growing up. He taught them a few “Japanese” phrases. It wasn’t until decades later she learned this dude just made it all up. I guess it was something you could get away with in early 90’s bumfuck Wisconsin. Like this dude just rolled into town, started “karate” classes, and just kinda went with it.
grue@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Thanks, now I have a plan for trolling my kid’s future kindergarten teacher.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
Okay…
needanke@feddit.org 5 hours ago
Was your spanish teacher called Senór Cang by chance?
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
No, but he was definitely a white dude who probably smoked a joint before class.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
You had Peggy Hill as a full time Spanish teacher‽‽
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
lol porpuda
was she trying to say púrpura?
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
Exactly that. Porpuda is now a joke between my girlfriend and I and we intentionally use it wrong.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
El lizardo is a great name for a male strip club tho!
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
To add insult to injury, when they had Spanish class, the fucking teacher taught us that “purple” was “porpuda” and “lizard” wad “lizardo.”
That’s ridiculous! Everyone knows the correct world is lizarda! Spanish is a gendered language, the genders matter! /s
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
When I went to Tenerife, the chip and pin machine said “numero secreto correcto” and I’m still not convinced Spanish is a real language.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
The worst part is that he was grounded by the parents. When I was younger a teacher told me I was wrong for saying that Portrush was in County Antrim, not Londonderry like she told the class. My mum brought it up at the parent teacher conference.
Same teacher also marked me wrong when asked to list loughs in Northern Ireland and Iisted Lough Beg. I was right, but it wasn’t on the list that SHE gave us.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I really don’t get this attitude. I’ve taught many classes, and making mistakes is just part of teaching. Unless you’re just reading from a textbook (and even those can be wrong), you’re going to make some mistakes. I’m a human being; sometimes I’m going to get stuff wrong. I try to minimize the errors, and it’s not like I’m teaching subjects I’m unqualified to teach. But to err is human. Maybe it’s different because I’ve taught undergrad students rather than K12, but IDK. I just really don’t get the attitude of an educator that feels they need to conjure up an aura of unerring perfection.
if I make a mistake in some derivation, I’ll just admit it, usually with some self-deprecating humor. A few things I’ve said to address it when it happens:
“Whoops! Guess the coffee hasn’t kicked in yet!”
“Whelp, contrary to popular opinion, I am not infallible!”
“Well, I’m clearly not infallible, guess I’ll never be pope!”
<Delivered with obvious sarcasm.> "No, you see, that was intentional! i was just testing you to see if you would notice my error! Obviously it can’t be that I made a mistake!’
“Whelp, as you can plainly see, I am clearly drunk!”
I’ve said all these and other things in front of entire classrooms of students. I don’t make mistakes often. But if you teach enough, it does happen. And it’s always a bit annoying to the students, as they have to back up, maybe correct their notes, etc. And I try to lighten that annoyance with some levity. So I try to make my lectures as correct as possible. But when mistakes do happen, i just try not to make a big deal about them, I dismiss them with some light humor.
Honestly, I’m glad I make mistakes. I wouldn’t want to teach if I didn’t. Part of teaching is making students feel confident that they have the ability to wrap their heads around concepts that may be very challenging. And if even the instructor can make mistakes? Well then students hopefully won’t feel so frustrated and demoralized about the ones they make.
It’s a fine line to walk while teaching. On the one hand, you want to be an authoritative source of knowledge on whatever topic you’re teaching. On the other, you need to be human. And part of that is not trying to portray yourself as some infallible god. Because ultimately that’s not what you are. And kids are clever and perceptive; they can see through your bullshit. If you make a mistake and try to cover it up, they will see through it, and they will lose respect for you. Aside from a few reprobates, most kids have enough emotional intelligence to realize that ultimately you’re just a human being trying to do your best, and that some errors are inevitable. Students are perfectly willing to forgive imperfection. They’re far less willing to forgive dishonesty.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 56 minutes ago
These teachers are just teaching from the same cloth they were taught from.
- The teacher is always right.
- If the teacher is wrong, refer back to rule number one.
The teaching goals in this system are to teach obedience, not information. It’s highly useful when training the next generation of factory workers, not thinking individuals. The teachers are teaching a mindset.
And it varies from school to school, locale to locale. It depends on what the admin views as productive and necessary, almost like a culture in a sense, and is the difference between an inner city school vs a private elite school.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Oof, i can feel anon. Actually true probably, similar stuff happened to me. Also getting this writte in as bad behaviour as well. I started so many arguments with teachers because they were bullshitting. Maths is one thing, i was really into it as a child(still am) but i understand why a teacher has to teach things in order. Of course this could be solved with more resources, and more importantly, distrobuting resources better by having a bit more personalized education. But what i was on about is that its very common(in eastern europe at least) for teachers to spread actual complete fucking bullshit. The amount of times they took disciplinary action against me because i corrected their batshit insane claims is just sad. This mainly happened until 5th and 6th grade where i got to the conclusion that just discussing what we covered during the class, after the class, was a good way of clearing up the mess. Of course i knew way too much for a 10 year old(had an autistic sister who loved to infodump me, we still engage in it time to time ^_^) but the point is that if a 10 year old is constantly correcting his teachers theres a problem in the system. I hoped that more western systems would be better but actually i dont see (sweden in my case) being much better for children even with everyone hyping it up. Well sorry for the rant, idk what could actually solve these problems exactly as im not an expert but i really hope we adress it one day…
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 hour ago
Reminds me of a time where I shortened the code for pointers in c++ at age 15, so quite old, and my teacher said it wouldn’t work (we didn’t have computers in that class, next class we would type the code and execute it in computer lab). Anyway I said it’d work, he said it would never work, I said well we can test it next class and teacher said we can’t waste time in computer lab like that, and I said I will ask principal for extratime in computer lab after school to prove that my code works. I got sent to principals office anyway for rude and unruley behavior and not only did I get scolded for trying to embarrass my teacher, I wasn’t granted extra time in the lab either. Next time in lab I managed to write the shorter code and get same results and I called teacher to show my code works, he just unplugged the cable and sent me to principals office again.
Luckily this time they called my parents and my mom unleashed hell on them threatening with talking to press and media and name and shame the teacher and principal for being stupider than a student is when they stopped harassing me.
And I quit paying attention in that class, I got bad marks for low class participation but hey I had already stopped giving fucks at that point.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 19 minutes ago
Ohh lol i just wrote c instead of c++. It was so low level anyway that i could just write clean c and it usually compiled as c++. But thst was already in highschool for me where they actually gave a fuck about us unlike in primary.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Americanized versioned, but with a match teacher it went something like this:
Teacher: Whoever can solve this will get an A.
me: I have a solution.
Teacher: come out and explain it.
Me: I do just that.
Teacher: that is correct, but you didn’t use the method we just learned, no A, sit down.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Ah I recall my “science” teacher when I was 13 explaining to us that all materials expand when heated and shrink when cooled.
So I ask how ice floats, or how ice cubes swell above the tray.
psud@aussie.zone 1 hour ago
And a good teacher would have told you that water freezing is one of the weird cases, as water has a less dense solid form than its liquid form. Although even water is less dense at 2° than at 20°
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 hours ago
I still remember my teacher bitching me out in front of the class when we were learning negative numbers because when he asked me how I figured out the correct answer I said that the positive numbers and negatives cancelled each other out. Like -4 and positive 5, the negative 4 cancels out 4 on the positive side and you are left with 1. Maybe that wasn’t the correct verbiage but it gave me the correct answer every time. He was a dick about correcting me though.
RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 4 hours ago
You understood numbers intuitively and that piece of shit could not even comprehend that someone can understand it this way.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
And now, I feel rage too. Be very afraid, unname teacher!
AI is coming for your jov!
BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
I had an elementary school teacher who insisted that gravity came from the earth’s rotation, and that if the earth stopped spinning there would be nothing holding us down.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I had a math teacher at my stem highschool claim that the touch screens on the ipads worked by heat and that if you touch them too much the screen will get too warm and stop responding
She also told students their computer was slow because they had too many desktop shortcuts, or hadn’t emptied their “trash” files.
There was also an argument we had over whether something was actually a 3d vector or multiple 2d vectors but I don’t wanna dredge my memories for the exact details, it was dumb.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
So, there is some jank in how Microsoft handles the desktop that results in more shortcuts on in using more resources. It always has to have all the images and icons loaded at all times.
But with the increases in baseline RAM I’d be shocked to find anyone with more than 4GB experiencing slowdown from it, even in the most extreme situations.
Similar thing with trash/recycling bin. Are you already low on storage space? Then yeah, clean it so your PC has enough spare space to work, or to use for swap (effectively extra, slower RAM by way of using drive space). But that was also far more likely to be a problem on the old drives measured in MB.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I had a math teacher at my stem highschool claim that the touch screens on the ipads worked by heat and that if you touch them too much the screen will get too warm and stop responding
I think the only way this could be any stupider is if she said it has cameras under the screen looking for where your fingers go.
nomy@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
I had an 8th grade social studies teacher/football coach tell us black people had an extra bone in their leg and that’s why they were so good at sports. He was pretty well liked teacher tbh, we watched Oliver Stones “JFK” in his class. During lectures he’d come around and sit on the front of his desk to seem more relatable. He ended up on the school board eventually.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
funnily enough i’ve heard people say the same thing irl
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Did your teacher believe in the hollow Earth theory?
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 5 hours ago
I had a kindergarten teacher try teaching syllables by clapping them out while saying the word: 👏 ALL 👏 I 👏 GATOR! Alligator! 👏 ALL 👏 I 👏 GATOR! Three syllables.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I mean, clapping between words (syllables in this case, but who cares) automatically makes your claims the indisputable truth. Anyone with some internet experience can tell you that.
catty@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
She would have been right with “CROC-A-DILE” though
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
Me, but it’s a job site and the teacher is my manager and I’m 28. Had a possibility to leave in contrast to this 7 years old child
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
You got a trade? Self employment is a wonderful thing, lemme tell you
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Can confirm. Nothing beats not having a boss.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Man… This sucks. I can’t believe how many lemmings have had similar experiences. I’m just remembering one now where I was excited about math, went ahead in the curriculum to fractions, and answered everything in ratios. Instead of the teacher seeing the simple mistake, I just remember them being “wrong”. How deflating.
Kids need connection before correction. I’m sort of glad my kid is glued to a screen doing adaptive math. It sucks in its own way, but better than unfeeling correction. Though, at least in my district, there’s a big emphasis on empathy development so I think the teachers try to model that.
remi_pan@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
“Impossible” would be a more mathematically accurate answer than “zero”.
prototact@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
It’s not a matter of accuracy even, if for any two natural numbers x < y it holds x - y = 0 then x = y, which is a contradiction. So this is basic consistency requirement, basically sabotaging any effort to teach kids math.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Depends on how your mathematical system is defined. In the mathematics system this teacher is using, negative numbers simply do not exist. The answer to 5-6 is the same as 5/0: NaN. Is this mathematical system incomplete? Yes. But, as has been thoroughly proven, there is no such thing as a complete mathematical system.
Soup@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Yea, or “the first twenty are free but the remaining five you don’t have to give are a problem”.
crazyminner@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
God that teachers dumb… Why even as the question? Why not just do 20 - 20 if you are going to be upset when a kid knows the answer. Simple! Don’t ask questions you don’t want the correct answers to. Teaching kids the wrong answers only messes them up the next year when they have to unlearn the bullshit you taught them.
catty@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
My experiences were to answer correctly, they go ‘well, yes’, and then don’t ask me questions in the future.
rtxn@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
My English-as-second-language teacher hated me because I kept correcting her spelling and vocabulary. But it was okay because I hated her right back and took every opportunity to annoy her (for the sake of rigorous accuracy, of course). Fortunately she couldn’t actually harm or sabotage me because I aced almost all of my tests and had good scores in national ESL competitions, and a sudden drop in grades would likely have been too obvious.
The point where I’d had enough was a test about the anatomy of vehicles. She had crossed out my answer to “left side of a ship” because I’d written port or larboard (not that I expected someone with a master’s diploma to know the etymology of nautical terms, or not to confuse larboard with starboard because they looked similar), but what made my blood fucking boil was when she crossed out my answers of hood and trunk because I’d used the American words instead of the British bonnet and boot, and when I pointed out that she’d marked those same answers as correct in others’ tests, she went back and fucking changed the scores on the other tests. I told her it was “deplorable conduct for a teacher” (approximate translation, and as polite as I was going to get that day) and she dragged me to the principal for disrupting the class.
That was the third year of high school (I think “junior” is the American equivalent). I took an option to graduate one year early from ESL, in part out of spite. I’m sure she was glad to be rid of me.
Depressed_blender@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
I had a math teacher who yelled at me for solving equations with a different method. I didn’t understand his explanation so I asked my brother for help. He taught me a more advanced method taught in a higher grade, which was easier, but I was not supposed to know that method yet. The teacher told me to redo everything but when I asked for help he told me to ask my friends. So, I just copied everything from my friend and then submitted it.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
School really does prepare you for real life sometimes, it seems …
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 9 hours ago
Absolutely not fake, nor gay
catty@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
So every four weeks or so, maths teacher would give us a test at upper primary level. This way pre-computer times. One of the questions was always “how long is this line” with a pen-drawn line underneath. Except, the pen he used always left a blot at the end of the line and sometimes there was a little flick from where he lifted his pen up.
Simple I thought, the line is 10.2cm - 10-3cm! Easy! But, it was always marked wrong. EVERY.SINGLE.TIME. Correct answer: 10cm. It wasn’t like to be rounded to the nearest cm or anything, just “how long is this line”. The ink blot counted. It counted!
I’m still bitter.
Blubber28@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Fucking hell I feel validated rn, I had a similar experience at that age but it was in language/reading class. It’s so frustrating to know that you are correct but you lack the terminology/ability to properly convey why you are right.
jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 1 hour ago
That’s just bad teaching. If you’re not allowed to use negatives then the teacher shouldn’t be asking questions where negatives are the answer. 20-25 is NOT equal to zero whether you’ve learnt negatives or not.
silasmariner@programming.dev 1 hour ago
It’s just a greentext. It’s fake.
Also gay.
Mostly it’s a fetishization of being the minderstood smart kid with scenarios that aren’t true but feel true.
Pretty fake. Pretty gay.
I don’t really like the slur I’ve been using here, but authenticity requires it. Oi moi.