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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨LifeLemons@lemmy.ml⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    At the written maths finals in my country there’s first a timebox where the teacher goes through all tasks to make sure that everyone understands what is asked. During that portion the headmaster is present and students are allowed to ask questions. After that the headmaster leaves and nobody is allowed to talk any more.

    So the teacher shows us this one task, and it’s a 3D geometry task. I look through it and notice that there’s one angle missing. There’s an infinite number of correct solutions with the given requirements. So I raise my hand and ask about that.

    My teacher looks straight past me at the back wall of the classroom, completely stone faced and says “I am sure that the requirements are complete. They cannot be incomplete.” I hold my tongue.

    As soon as the headmaster leaves, my teacher all but runs up to my desk and asks me what he missed.

    Turns out, I was right and he just put a random number on the chalkboard to be used as the missed requirement.

    If he had admitted in front of the headmaster that the requirements were incomplete, then the whole maths finals would have to be postponed and redone.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The headmaster was testing the teacher, not the students.

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  • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Did I write this fucking greentext and then forgot or something, because this exact same thing happened to me, except they took my yugioh cards, not pokemon csrds

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    • Sidhean@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If I didn’t learn to shut the fuck up and keep my head down, it would have happened to me, too.

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Did you change it to pokemon cards to protect your identity?

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I had a kindergarten teacher try teaching syllables by clapping them out while saying the word: 👏 ALL 👏 I 👏 GATOR! Alligator! 👏 ALL 👏 I 👏 GATOR! Three syllables.

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    • JollyG@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I saw someone do this in a teaching program evaluation materials once. Except the teacher did it with the word brown and stretched it into three syllables.

      Br 👏 ow 👏 uh 👏 n.

      I remember thinking to myself “America is doomed.” Sometimes I still think about that teacher when I see people get tilted over dumb, made-up shit on social media and turn into reactionary morons around election time. Br 👏 ow 👏 uh 👏 n. America is doomed.

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    • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I mean, clapping between words (syllables in this case, but who cares) automatically makes your claims the indisputable truth. Anyone with some internet experience can tell you that.

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    • catty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      She would have been right with “CROC-A-DILE” though

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  • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Similar story of my own: Had a middle school computer teacher who told us to use “File -> Open URL” on Internet Explorer/Netscape (can’t remember which) which opened a prompt window with a text field to enter in a URL. And I pointed out that you can just use the address bar and do the same thing and she angrily told me that I had to do it the proper way. While I thought she wasn’t looking, I used the address bar anyway. She apparently had been trying to spy if I disobeyed, caught me, and told me that I failed the assignment (I did not even know I was being graded).

    Another different computer teacher at my high school I had seemed to more or less admit she had no idea what she was doing (she originally taught a different subject, she seemed legitimately nervous/insecure about losing her job) though she tried by just reading the text book to us verbatim for a few days. Eventually, she gave up and the students just taught each other computer stuff in her class, then when they ran out of things to teach each other they just played Age of Empires all class and the she let us.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Something about this reminds me of macOS’s default Finder settings that doesn’t let you manually type a path.

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      • ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        This is such a strange and irritating limitation of an other great OS.

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  • moopet@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    My parents got called to school more than once because i was “disruptive” and kept doing things like wandering around class talking to people or not turning up after breaks. I was bored. My parents said, if I’ve done the work and it’s all correct can’t they give me something else to do? So they made me answer the same set of questions again once I finished them.

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    • starchylemming@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      thats how you promote and nurture aspiring gifted kids

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I would understand “unsolvable” or something but 0 just hurts. Later you learn to specify “within natural numbers” and it’s totally reasonable to stay within the number range you have learned so far and it would be fine to tell the kid “you’re not wrong but let’s keep it simple”. Just don’t teach things they have to unlearn later.

    My brother was in a similar situation where he said the square root of -1 is i and the teacher was impressed and it was discussed as a positive thing at home

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    • unmagical@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Speaking of not teaching things kids have to unlearn later, I’ve often wondered why we don’t just start teaching math with the expectation that you solve for “x”.

      i.e. Instead of

      2 + 3 = 
      

      Write

      2 + 3 = x
      

      This would prime the child to expect that math is about finding an unknown and you’ve already introduced the unknown that will be most prominent in their academic career. This will also reduce the steps necessary when teaching how to balance an equation as you no longer have the “well actually you were always solving for ‘x’ we just didn’t write it, so you didn’t know, also we’re never going to use ‘x’ for multiplication again.” stage.

      But I’m not a teacher, parent, or child psychologist and this is just my blathering hypothesis based on watching my peers struggle with math for years.

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      • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The former has the advantage that you can just write the answer in the same line on the worksheet. But you could maybe introduce the latter early as an interim stage to avoid learning everything at once.

        2 + 3 = x
        x =
        

        Might confuse first graders but work at a later stage. My only expertise is that I’m a former child so take this with a grain of salt

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’ve taken accustomed to writing

        2 + 3 = ___ or 2 + ___ = 5 and then later seamlessly transitioning to “2 + 3 = z, write down z:” or “2 + t = y, where y = 5. write down t:”

        because it just seems so natural to identify these letters with natural things, such as numbers of beer bottles or cookies. kids typically giggle over these things because they think i’m making it up to be funny for their entertainment.

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  • jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They don’t pay teachers enough and sometimes it shows.

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  • VisionScout@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This thread should be called “how kids get traumatized by school teachers causing them to hate school”

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    • LifeLemons@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Anon gets traumatized by teachers

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Had a similar experience around age 10. Learned that cucumbers generally have a higher water percentage than seawater, 97% to 96.5%. Tell that to a friend of the same age, he says that can’t be true because all the oceans have more water than all the cucumbers in the world, we begin debating and then start fighting about it and a teacher comes by to stop us and asks what’s going on. I explain and the teacher immediately looks at me like I’ve lost my mind, pulls my friend to the side and asks him to leave, takes me to a room and sits down to try to explain how I’m wrong and that I can’t start fights over things that anyone can prove is untrue. A week after I’m sent to a kind of mental health meeting, she immediately understands and looks it up, sees that I’m right, tells me to keep away from talking about “stuff like that” with both friends and others my age and also teachers and parents of other kids.

    I’m not still mad about it, but can’t deny that it feels wrong and weird.

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    • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I told my friend that modern tanks fire cannon balls and when he told me I was full of shit, I doubled down on my fact-based superior knowledge that obviously surpassed his meagre ramblings.

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    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That teacher taught you a very valuable lesson: Appearances matter more than performance.

      The most important thing is to look like whatever society’s idea of a “succesful, good” person looks like.

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  • Bysmuth@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Reading these comments is bad for my health (╥﹏╥) What are the reasons for them to act this way? Seems sometimes they’re just ignorant, other times definitely power tripping.

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    • itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I def had some weird experiences like this in school too, though not as extreme. I had a teacher once give me a zero on an exam because I used greater than and less than symbols to describe two lines intersecting. She thought I did them all backwards. Normally I’d be too shy to push back but zero on an exam was pretty extreme so I went to discuss one on one and she basically called me dumb saying I don’t know how the symbols worked (this was like 9th grade, I def did and was pretty alarmed she didn’t). Finally she said fine, she’ll go ask a math teacher to come explain to me in front of the class if I’m so smart. She left, was gone for like ten minutes, and came back super upset. Slams the paper on my desk in front of everyone and says something like ‘fine I guess you want an A now?’. Was traumatizing. But was actually a huge teaching moment for me in that I stopped seeing teachers as things/concepts, and started seeing them as people. Same as me/my classmates/some random on the street. No one has this shit figured out. I also realized I never wanted the experience she just had, and learned to always hedge my opinions. It looks like, I think, it seems to me, etc. Has saved me from looking stupid but also encouraged those that I teach to question my dumb shit. But yeah. Teachers are just people, have you met people?

      Side note my math teacher was extra nice to me that afternoon - I also learned that the teachers don’t necessarily like each other either. Apparently I had helped score points for the ‘not batshit insane’ crew

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This sounds like someone following a preprepaired lesson plan without the skills or experience to adapt, and panicking.

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  • LifeLemons@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This happened to me in 6 grade and the teacher was like annoyed bruh when I confidently raised hand to give a more accurate answer. Maybe she thought I was showing off the way she reacted

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure a currently 4yo nephew of mine will suffer some sort of bullshit like that in the coming years. Little bud is already able to read big numbers like 368 (also in english no less!) and full words despite the preschool not teaching either.

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  • Blubber28@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fucking hell I feel validated rn, I had a similar experience at that age but it was in language/reading class. It’s so frustrating to know that you are correct but you lack the terminology/ability to properly convey why you are right.

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Learning vowels, aeiou and sometimes y. Ok

      Quizzed on vowels “a, e, i, o, u and sometimes y” “No psud, it’s just a, e, i, o, and u”

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      if you had had the terminology to say it, they would probably just have gotten angry anyways over being exposed in class.

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Dude, School was the worst f’ing psyop.

    Give me a straight question and answer on the material, and I’ll 100% it. No, we can’t do that… Here’s four answers that are all technically correct, choose the MOST correct one.

    Ohh so it’s pros and cons of a situation and you need to pick the one with the most upsides or least downsides? No, they’re all just mostly ok, but we were REALLY thinking about answer B when we wrote the question.

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    • cacti@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      School is like slavery in many aspects to be honest. Though it‘s really not a physical one, but a mental one.

      You can not do much without getting permission from an authority figure first, including relieving basic biological needs such as eating or using the bathroom. You are not allowed to leave the facilities without permission. You are classified into different groups based on your performance on tests, and eventually seperated based on that (usually at high school/university level). You are trained for at least 12 years in this way to obey arbitrary rules and procedures, which are designed to get you ready for the capitalist hellscape that awaits you. Some countries even use this period of time to push another agenda on you, usually one related to religion &\ nationalism. At last, you come out of it (while probably having forgotten many of the things ”taught” to you) and you are immediately put into mandatory military service, or you come to the point of needing a service job just to survive.

      Autodidacticism definitely rocks, and homeschooling would be a better idea if one was qualified for it and the child’s social needs could be met elsewhere.

      Kinda unrelated to your example, but I just wanted to expand on your psyop comment.

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      • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s a solid take. The difference I’ve noticed, though everyone’s experience is different, is with homeschooling. From what I’ve seen, quite a few parents take it on despite not really being suited for it. Some seem to have their own forms of indoctrination, the kind that even public schools won’t entertain, so they choose to keep their kids out entirely.

        My son has a handful of friends who are homeschooled. (We kept him home a bit longer during Covid while he did remote learning, and he kept a lot of those friends.) His friends span the full spectrum: a couple are pretty middle-of-the-road, you’d never guess they were homeschooled. One lives under really strict, almost militant control, and another seems to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.

        I hate the crap that goes on when the establishment runs the game, but I also hate what happens when nutjobs run their own game. It’s like we need some kind of framework to keep everyone on the same page, where kids just learn and excel. We should get nominal discipline, learn self-control, but also not be pigeonholeed with a lot of redtape used to protect schools from legal action. Some kind of common sense brigade :)

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ll take “that happened” for 100, please.

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    • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I actually kind of believe it, because kindergarten/elementary teachers are often from arts & humanities backgrounds, and it’s not at all rare to find one who never passed a high school STEM class.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Can you fail all your STEM classes and graduate high school?

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    • bluebadoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I literally had that experience in grade 2. The class was asked a negative numbers question, I answered the question correctly but the answer was “impossible”. I wasn’t reamed out but I was shut down hard so I wouldn’t confuse the other kids.

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    • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also had a similar experience. 2 of us in class knew negative numbers, teacher told us our answers are wrong and that the answer is “impossible”, plus “you’re not supposed to know that yet”.

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The autistic experience summarized

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In fourth grade we would read short stories and answer multiple-choice questions about them. One such story was about romantically involved terrapins, and the question was “What would be a good title for this story?” The answers included

    a) A turtle love story.

    b) Two turtles in love

    I don’t remember which one I picked but the correct answer was the other one.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Same here, elementary school. Teacher: “When water boils, it produces a lot of steam.” Me: “One liter of water produces 1700 liters of steam under normal pressure conditions.” Teacher: “Write down: When water boils, it produces a lot of steam.”.

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  • wpb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    7 when the story happened, 15 years later in 2020, so I’m supposed to believe this guy is 7 - 15 + 2025 - 2020 = -3 today. Something doesn’t check out about this story.

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    • Trail@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What the actual fuck.

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      • Spectrism@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Seems like they had the same math teacher as Anon.

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  • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    math fraud. top kek.

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    • EldenLord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If math fraud was a crime, I would be the whole Yakuza

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    School really does prepare you for real life sometimes, it seems …

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  • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Failed a high school required class because I have poor writing abilities.

    Literally got a 0 on a midterm because the teacher “couldn’t read my writing”

    Crap like the green text and my high school experience is why parents need to be involved in a child’s education.

    Either that or all this is fake and gay.

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Little did they know nearly no one needs to wield a pen now, or for the last couple of decades

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      • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yep. Computer guy now as a trade. I touch a pen maybe once every 90 days.

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  • ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Never stop fighting their lies

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  • chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “youre not supposed to know that yet” then why in fucks name did you ask lady?

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  • cepelinas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why are you going to be learning negative numbers while you are 8?

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  • Don_alForno@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Wisdom is knowing when to say “fuck it” to save yourself the pain.

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  • catty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So every four weeks or so, maths teacher would give us a test at upper primary level. This way pre-computer times. One of the questions was always “how long is this line” with a pen-drawn line underneath. Except, the pen he used always left a blot at the end of the line and sometimes there was a little flick from where he lifted his pen up.

    Simple I thought, the line is 10.2cm - 10-3cm! Easy! But, it was always marked wrong. EVERY.SINGLE.TIME. Correct answer: 10cm. It wasn’t like to be rounded to the nearest cm or anything, just “how long is this line”. The ink blot counted. It counted!

    I’m still bitter.

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Factual incorrect, since teacher didn’t state that the result has to be rounded. I only got barely through, because of the tasks often being open to interpretation.

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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The time I told the story about how I had mud pies for my 5th birthday and said they used Oreo crumbs to make it look more realistic …. I was stood in front of the entire kindergarten and made to say the word and what it meant.

    Idk why I don’t like attention 40 years later

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What word? Oreo?

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      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        realistic

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  • catty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    and people wonder why schools get shot up…

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    • deur@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They get shot up because of easy access to guns, next question please!

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      • piccolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Guns were even more accessible years prior. So thats not the complete answer.

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        they get shot up because of really poor mental health in large swaths of the population and non-existent gun control.

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      • catty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        taps the sign: “/s”

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