Flax_vert
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- Comment on What did people think dinosaur bones were before we officially recognised dinosaurs? 2 hours ago:
If God would send you to hell forever because you didn’t worship him, because you were raised in a life where the Christian God was not the default religion,
God punishes sin. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong, yet they deliberately do wrong. The punishment for sin is death and it separates us from God. It’s got nothing to do with where you’re from.
he is an evil god and not worthy of being worshiped.
By what standard? Since we’re both Christians, can you find a reference that supports your argument from our agreed-upon infallible scripture?
I can argue my position because of what is written in Romans 9:14-29
What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? As indeed he says in Hosea, “Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’” “And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’” And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will be saved, for the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth fully and without delay.” And as Isaiah predicted, “If the Lord of hosts had not left us offspring, we would have been like Sodom and become like Gomorrah.”
The majority is not Christian and never has been Christian. Christianity has always been a very small portion of the population.
Even right now, world over, only about 20% of the world is Christian.
By the way evangelicals teach you, that means that four out of five people alive on this planet are going to hell by default. That is six billion souls that god is condemning to hell for not following the preachings of one specific book, the way you’re saying it.
I guess Jesus is an Evangelical, then.
Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
That’s why I said you cannot rely on just the book. You have to actually put the work in
That’s a scary thought - how could we know that we are working hard enough? How could we have assurance that we’ll be saved?
Don’t try to save the people that already have a religion. Try to save the people that are in need of salvation because they are erring in their life. They are sinning in their ways. They are doing wrong to themselves and to other people.
We all are erring in life. We all need salvation. Only Jesus can grant that.
Love not fear.
Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.
- Comment on What did people think dinosaur bones were before we officially recognised dinosaurs? 10 hours ago:
God is not a vengeful rules lawyer who’s looking for any excuse he possibly can find to punish every single human being that doesn’t do everything exactly the way a book written 2,000 years ago says it should have been done.
You’re partially correct. God is perfectly Just and perfectly Merciful. So God punishes those who are unrepentant, and forgives those who are. Because of this Mercy, God became Man and suffered the punishment for sin in man’s place. That’s God’s mercy. However, those who avoid it are still punished.
You try and demean what you claim to be your own scripture as a Christian to “a book written 2,000 years ago”. In fact- you’re constricting morality to knowledge of this book. Morality is engrained and known in man. “You shall not kill” “You shall not steal” have been universal laws throughout societies, even “Do unto others as you would want done unto you”. If you’re constricting morality to knowledge of the Book, you’re actually arguing that other religions and those without cannot be moral or act morally. That’s not true, everyone knows the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. The Bible, God’s law, is a concrete guiding light. The fact is, all have sinned regardless, so following 99% of it or 50% of it makes no difference whether or not they have access to a Bible (as many didn’t for centuries). The Bible is an infallible record of this law, so when society strays like it has throughout centuries, such as committing atrocities such as slavery, genocides, war, and abortion, the Bible still stands there with an unchanged and an uncompromising record of God’s law, right and wrong, that we can judge by.
I have been through all of your objections in my own personal walk, and I’m making the choices that feel the most divinely inspired to me.
That’s dealing with subjective, corruptible and fallible feelings. Not infallible facts.
The greatest rule is love, and against love there is no law. And if I choose to love my neighbor and accept them the way they are, and my faith says that it is okay for them to be who they are, God’s not going to punish them for being the person who he made them to be based off of their life experiences, then I’m going to stick with that regardless of what a book says.
Matthew 22:37-40
And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
The great and first commandment is to love God. So that includes following His law and His commands. This law applies to everyone, including your neighbour. The second is to love your neighbour. To lie to your neighbour about what God has revealed to you and their need for salvation, to hide that from them is violence. God said to love your neighbour. God is Love- and affirming what God has commanded against or failing to alert someone to their need of salvation is violence against your neighbour. Is it love to let someone remain hungry, thirsty and dying, devoid of their senses to the point they do not even realise their pain. Meanwhile you have plenty of food and water and tell them “I respect and affirm your hunger and thirst, and that you don’t want any food or water” and not insist on sharing your bounty with them? Then what greater hatred would it be to not alert someone of their sin and eternal destiny and need for Salvation?
Regardless of what a book says
When you said “the greatest rule is love”, that’s from the same book I am referring to. I could just the same dismiss your argument saying “well I’m going to tell everyone they’re horrible regardless of what a book says!” This “book” is the Christian scripture that all Christians have to follow- divinely inspired by The Holy Spirit and written by those who knew Jesus most. To demean it and disregard it is to depart from the Christian faith.
Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.
If I was wrong to the point I would be eternally damned, I would want someone to share the Gospel with me. In fact, it’s why I carry a large amount of respect to Muslims and Mormons who try and evangelise to me, despite them being wrong.
- Comment on What did people think dinosaur bones were before we officially recognised dinosaurs? 2 days ago:
The main issue here is that you’re basing your theology on how you feel, not on God’s divinely inspired Word -
Romans 1:18-23
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
God reveals Himself to those who’ll truly believe.
Those that do not have the Word will be judged by the precepts of their own heart
And the precepts of everyone’s heart is sin- and the punishment for sin is death. It’s sin in general that condemns you to Hell, Jesus is there to save you from it.
On a personal note- I’ve had the same struggles and thoughts you have. I have grappled with knowing many I love won’t be saved. There are different theologies on hell- personally I believe it ranges from just separation from Heaven to actual torment depending on if those people were extremely evil or just nominally evil. Jesus speaks about different degrees of punishment, and illustrations of both darkness and fire are used. The way the Bible talks about other religions isn’t the same way you talk about them- Islam is barely a branch of Judaism or Christianity. Instead, it’s a faith based on a paedophile self-proclaimed prophet who was also a military leader and used his prophethood to marry nine women (against God’s law of only having one wife) one of which being a six year old child. Mormons follow a similar prophet. The Religious Jews that exist today are the ones who rejected Jesus’ message, like the ones in the old testament. Sure, both groups aren’t doomed per say as anytime they can be reached out to with the Gospel and many have been accepted. But Jesus did put a large emphasis on evangelism, His last command being
Matthew 28:19-20
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.
So Jesus actively wants us to evangelise- evangelism is in fact the loving thing. If someone is wrong about something so critical, it is in fact hateful to not alert them to their wrongdoing because it is leading them away from salvation. Do you really want to be ascending when Christ comes back into heaven, and seeing your Muslim, Hindu and Atheist friends left behind? Will you say to them “sorry, I didn’t want to be hateful and force my religion on you?”
- Comment on If this seems exaggerated to you then you haven't worked in IT long enough 2 days ago:
Personal phone numbers are basically always 10/11 digits long (the 0 at the beginning is replaced with +44 if you’re making an international call)
- Comment on What did people think dinosaur bones were before we officially recognised dinosaurs? 2 days ago:
And don’t get me wrong, I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus, I believe in God. I actually believe in all of the major religions, but I lean towards Christianity personally
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
How can you believe in all of the major religions when they all contradict? For example, in the Bible Jesus claimed to be God, got crucified, rose again, etc. While Mohammed of Islam denied Jesus’ crucifixion and said Jesus never claimed to be God. In Christianity, Jesus claims exclusivity over Salvation and that He Himself is “The Truth”, leaving no room for other religions (a lot of which tried to leave room for Jesus, interestingly enough).
- Comment on What did people think dinosaur bones were before we officially recognised dinosaurs? 3 days ago:
Never met anyone in the flesh who actually believed this
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
This is the thing about the UK. There was an idea going about that the English oppressed the Scottish and the Irish, but in reality it was just the rich oppressing the poor. The rich Scottish lords also oppressed the Scottish poor (eg, highland clearances) and I guess with Ireland, it was a mixture of the fact it was under developed so everyone was poor and anti-catholic sentiment. I think people making it about race nowadays are just people being anachronistic
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Our society is rooted in classism
- Comment on What’s the endgame? 1 week ago:
Better video
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 4 weeks ago:
Probably needs bright light to penetrate the glass
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 4 weeks ago:
I reckon Mandelson might have done worse. I feel like Andrew was just a pawn/fall guy in this whole thing. “Haha, we have dirt on the Queen’s son” type situation
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 4 weeks ago:
I don’t think a trial by parliament is legal under international law?
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 5 weeks ago:
The trial done by Cromwell wasn’t really legal. And Cromwell isn’t really the best example of democracy. It was basically a coup. It’s also legal for MPs to disclose classified information in parliament.
I think they probably would have asked the King or possibly the prime minister, especially because they entered his property to make the arrest. It would have been courtesy. Although the King stated a while ago he is co-operating, and even if he did say no, it would be an absolute PR disaster, so really he wouldn’t have had any choice… Like with most things as a consititional monarch.
It’s just the idea he likely was asked by the Police and he handed his brother over.
Although honestly I would have 100% done the same thing, whether I was a king or not.
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 5 weeks ago:
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they just picked some high status moron to be their fall guy.
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 5 weeks ago:
From what I recall, they’d most likely have probably needed to ask The King for permission to do so, who would have handed him over.
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 5 weeks ago:
So far
- Comment on Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office 5 weeks ago:
Good spot!
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- Comment on If the next pres. is a Democrat and wants to roll back all of Trumps bullshit. How can they do that quickly and efficiently? 5 weeks ago:
Meanwhile, now it’s China which is starting to do work to slow down carbon emissions
- Comment on If the next pres. is a Democrat and wants to roll back all of Trumps bullshit. How can they do that quickly and efficiently? 5 weeks ago:
Democrat manifesto:
“We aren’t Trump!”
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Have you heard of lunduke?
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It’s probably better if the council is the one controlling the flags going up and erecting them honestly, instead of some dodgy people angered by Facebook posts
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Website
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Your sister sounds like a beautiful person
- Comment on A new homelessness law in Wales is being called 'world-leading' 1 month ago:
The British Treasury
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FOSS also attracts right wing libertarians
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Wouldn’t it just be better to make a hydroelectric powerplant
- Comment on Misery for many as rain falls for 40 days in some parts of UK 1 month ago:
Same as what atheist degenerates think
“I can’t wait for winter to be over”
- Comment on 58 UK public libraries have parenting books with advice to encourage children to detransition 1 month ago:
Let people read whatever book they want and make up their own minds. Libraries aren’t supposed to be a “ministry of truth”
- Comment on 58 UK public libraries have parenting books with advice to encourage children to detransition 1 month ago:
If someone is able to find out they aren’t actually trans, isn’t that a good thing? Having doubts about gender while growing up might be a new normal we’ll have to learn how to handle, there will be some people that are cis and there will be some people that actually have gender dysphoria and transitioning would be in their best interest.