Arguably, the market is flooded with tech grads, and they were never going to be enough jobs.
Goodbye, $165,000 Tech Jobs. Student Coders Seek Work at Chipotle.
Submitted 19 hours ago by remington@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html
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marsza@lemmy.cafe 11 hours ago
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 hours ago
Well, yes. Capitalism and friends don’t care about a healthy society. They care about the owners having all the riches. This is inevitable without intervention.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 14 hours ago
These are the kind of articles that occurred last time there was a boom bust cycle. Instead of outsourcing taking our jobs, its now ai. Except with outsourcing you can at least fire the individual. Ai is a subscription plan that produces template code.
Give it a couple of years and it will go from being the new shiny thing to just a microwave again.
megopie@beehaw.org 4 hours ago
It’s so disingenuous and absurd to claim this is a AI problem. It’s an over saturation of qualified individuals in a field, problem. These companies and executives are just using AI as a cover story to hide the fact that the industry is not growing fast enough to employ the number of skilled professionals in the field. This was the point of the whole “learn to code” talking points. Executives and shareholders wanted an over-saturation in the field so as to push down wages and reduce the bargaining power of employees.
This situation kind of hammers home the importance of a robust social safety net, strong unions, minimum wages that keep up with inflation, and maintaining an affordable cost of living. There being a saturation in one job market should not doom people to poverty conditions. Even a job at chipotle should pay well enough to live comfortably on, and workers there should have enough bargaining power to ensure decent treatment.
Like, we need to act collectively to ensure stability and prosperity. There is no path that someone can take individually to ensure these things, no escape hatch to prosperity for “hard workers”. “Learning to code” and “Get a CS degree” seemed like a straight forward answer, but here we are.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
AI was an excuse to fire people, in reality it doesnt generate profit for the company.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 hours ago
Exactly right. Most of us older coders have been warning of this for years. It was not benevolence that Microsoft, Google, Amazon so gleefully pushed for more coders and coding boot camps. They wanted a flood of labor to bring down salaries. They knew this was going to happen, and I’ve been calling it out for years. This is exactly what they wanted.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
i had a “preminition” right before the pandemic that were going to start massive layoffs of tech workers soon, simply because they are earning hundreds of thousands a year, and the c-suites/ceos arnt going to let that slide.
t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 hours ago
The other side is that the mass layoffs of the last year mean that there are plenty of experienced people to hire over new grads. I can’t imagine any company right now taking on the cost and risk of training up entry level folks when they can hire a 10+ yr senior in that position for the same or a little more than the entry level cost.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
5? I know some in the industry who have been out for 30 months. Talented and experienced, as well.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
they will just go to h1b visas, and hire lower quality people, to barely maintain things.