It’s frustrating how people in charge are so far away from reality.
Remember when Kathleen Kennedy said that writing for Star Wars is hard because there aren’t any books and comics?
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Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 8 hours ago
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
She can’t have said that.
TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Hate to break it to you, but…
Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 4 hours ago
Jurassic World director Colin Trevorrow was slated to write and direct Episode IX before you brought J.J. Abrams back in. Is this final entry in the trilogy a particularly hard nut to crack?
Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
Lol what? That’s like saying drawing is hard if there’s no connect the dots
static09@piefed.world 5 hours ago
I have a biased take here, but:
It’s so much worse than that. It’s like saying “We can’t trace any completed connect the dots drawings” when there were 200 already completed connect the dots drawings specifically based on Star Wars.
I would kill to have a Darth Bane movie trilogy or two movies based on Revan. There’s even a Star Wars zombie book they could have turned into a movie at the height of the zombie media craze for crying out loud.
Horribly, horribly mismanaged.
snooggums@piefed.world 6 hours ago
It is like she is saying filming Lord of the Rings was hard because there were no books to start from.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
It’s like hearing someone say “there were no strong female leads in movies before the Hunger Games”
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Ellen Ripley enters the chat
Blackmist@feddit.uk 50 minutes ago
Foxy Brown looks on from the back of the bus.
kamen@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’ve got a suspicion that this is one of those “say something intentionally stupid so that everyone jumps on the train to correct you and create engagement”.
thiscat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
i love how it says 1972 while showing the original super mario bros
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 hours ago
Anyone else with fond 1970s memories of finding the parents’ lock to the coinbox of the home NES?
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Have I been playing Skyrim wrong all this time?
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
Someone call a psychiatrist, we have another case of Other Games Syndrome.
You’ll be ok. Let’s just sit down and play either of your games. Do you want to play Super Mario, or Last of Us
ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You owe Todd a lot of quarters missy.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
No, it’s the same thing. You’re an arrow who jumps on the heads of enemies.
Wait, you didn’t think you were the person with the bow did you? The stealth archer is inconsequential to the story. It’s the arrow that matters.
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The Last of Us is just something I cannot get in to. Been trying for 10 years. I just do not care and it bores me to death even when I was trying to force myself to stay with it. Turns out as I get older, I still don’t want walking simulators. I still just want more of the games I played as a kid, and luckily I still have them all.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
It is fine to have a different experience and taste in games. But The Last Of Us is absolutely not a Walking Sim. For one thing, Walking Sims, by definition, have no combat. You just walk around and explore a place and uncover a story along the way. TLOU is filled with stealth combat and 3rd person shooting, survival horror style resource management, as well as exploration and an unfolding story.
I think what you mean is that you dislike Narrative-driven adventure games. Walking Sims are a sub-genre of narrative driven games, but not all narrative driven games are Walking Sims. The Last Of Us is an narrative- driven action-adventure survival-horror game.
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I agree. Rogue lites and choose 3
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Seemed like my sort of game, but I don’t like third-person, so I didn’t even try playing it.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I like walking sims but I hate stealth action games. Will never be able to play TLOU.
Also hearing about what they did in the 2nd one kinda kills my interest.
myotheraccount@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I absolutely loved playing The Last of Us. But I find no enjoyment in ever playing it again (I tried and got bored). It will be like rewatching a movie I’ve seen, but meanwhile having to relearn how to watch it as well. I think these storydriven games have their place, but there are surely more engaging games.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
I was listening to a podcast recently, New York Videogames Critics Circle, and they talked about The Last of Us 1 and 2 and Neil Druckman as if it was the first game to ever make the player feel emotions. Like not just that it did so successfully, but that it did it at all.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 hours ago
The Last of Us what the first game yo could play without quarters? I had no idea. That’s pretty incredible.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
If we want to be charitable there’s a nugget of truth to what he’s saying though. I’m 48 now and I’ve played computer games since I was seven, and I’ve worked with game development myself. TLOU was the first game that felt like it had a story for someone who’s 40+. It felt like some kind of milestone. The art of games has matured significantly in the past 15 years.
nullspace@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Clearly you’ve never played the cinematic masterpiece that is Sonic Adventure 2.
FishFace@piefed.social 4 hours ago
I think there are a lot of candidates before TLOU, and you are being very charitable I would say.
The first game that I remember having a worthwhile story is probably Max Payne (themes of bereavement, drug addiction, betrayal) or the Thief games (environmental storytelling!)
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Come on, Space Quest V was not written for kids
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
Neither was Leisure Suit Larry. But I’d argue that the the game still appealed more to kids than to adults. With TLOU I saw something else happen: many kids hated the ending, while dads like me totally got it.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It’s like you’ve never heard of Star Control 2: The Ur-Quan Masters
julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Yeah, it’s worded stupidly, but there’s a point there. TLOU was emotive in a way I haven’t felt often in video game writing. Ref how well it adapted into TV.
I think what he’s getting at is that gaming has focused more on gameplay loop than storytelling, which is generally fair.
If anyone has recommendations for games they think have writing of comparable quality, lay them on me. For me so far the pantheon is bioshock, RDR2, TLOU, and I have high hopes for Bg3.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 hours ago
Nobody else inserted quarters into their computer whenever you died in Doom?
Klear@piefed.world 7 hours ago
You can’t die in Doom. Per the quote - you die after jumping on enemies. The lack of jump button and infinitely tall monsters were specifically implemented to prevent player death.
MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 6 hours ago
That’s why it’s considered a milestone game. Truely astonishingly design.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I did once. The quarter fell onto some solder points and short circuited a bunch of stuff. Fried the whole machine. This was back in the early 90s, of course, when a typical computer cost as much as a nice used car and maybe four people in the county had one, much less knew how to fix one. Something about getting beaten with jumper cables. Sometimes the hard lessons are the ones that stick with you most because as I got older, I learned how to solder and perform board level repairs. It’s an insanely useful skill.
kreiger@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Super Mario Bros came out in 1985, not 1972. Pong was 1972.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Vespair@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
That’s literally not the joke though. The joke doesn’t change at all if we correct the date to 1985, so clearly the error not only isn’t the joke, it’s not even a part of the joke. How is this so upvoted? People just slackjawed reacting like “omfg I remember the Simpsons!”
kreiger@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
No, the joke was that since 1985 there’s been no games, but the image says 1972.
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
Grateful for you both bc I did not catch that part of the joke lol
collapse_already@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
I can’t think of any aspect of The Last of Us that didn’t appear in an earlier game. It was well enough done, but I don’t feel like it was innovative in any way.
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 3 hours ago
Is that a real quote?
Delusions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
One would assume so, but if you don’t think so, spend the two seconds it takes to search it out yourself
lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
The absence of evidence is no evidence of absence
orioler25@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I guess Zionism is a bold innovation in video game storytelling now.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Not everything has something to do with Zionism FFS.
orioler25@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Literally the most famous video game instance of it:
www.reversecanarymission.org/…/neil-druckmann vice.com/…/the-not-so-hidden-israeli-politics-of-… time.com/…/the-last-of-us-controversy-israel-gaza…
Maybe read a bit eh.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 7 hours ago
I keep jumping people in leisure suit Larry and they aren’t dying is this a bug
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You might get a bug.
Anchorxiety@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
I have to admit I miss the days before the invention of the home console and PC in 2012 😣
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Lol can you imagine the jump if that’s how it was 🤣
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Also, once you think about it, the last of us isn’t even categorically a game.
julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
The cut scenes are good, but the stealth bits are really exciting gameplay too. Genuinely scared my partner with the faces I pulled playing the left behind expansion.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
youtu.be/e5jDspIC4hY?t=214 is the timestamp for that final definition of what I generally try to push as the definition of a game. Not sure I agree with it, but it’s an interesting take and what I was mostly speaking to.
LazyOldPervert@lemmus.org 7 hours ago
You kinda undercut your point when you say that the most famous video game of all time was released aover a decade before it actually was. . .
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Clearly the showrunner has never played a video game.
Enzy@feddit.nu 5 hours ago
Uncharted my beloved
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Super Mario Bros was published in 1985 not 1972 but yeah.
Back in the 90’s, video games were new enough that you could forgive the film industry for not being familiar with them. It’s been 30 years. They still don’t get it.