👴☝️I did that

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• stevestevesteve@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well the gas would be cheaper if they could somehow make it contain advertising and data theft

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  • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh wait till you find out about how modern cars are mining your data, including facial recognition and reporting of you are having sex in the car! And the best part it’s all unregulated! Govt can simply buy the info for tracking even your Phone would be jealous of!

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    • Hackworth@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Somebody forgot all previous instructions and dropped those straight facts.

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    • Banana@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Never been happier to have a base model car from 2012

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    • n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As someone who makes that software that suits this, we can’t even figure out how to properly handle the data we actually want, like analytics if you actually use the auto feature on your air conditioner. Nobody actually cares if you have sex in your car. Besides you’re on Lemmy we know your aren’t having sex.

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    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I love it when the government finds out when I have sex. It’s so romantic – just me, her, and the CIA.

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      At least send me the footage for my onlyFans

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Where in America do you have gas pumps that don’t have ad TVs or ask you for your zip code?

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Very few of the ones around me have the built in ad players. Several stations blare ads (inevitably largely for themselves, curiously enough) over the PA system constantly, though.

      The ZIP code thing is for credit card verification. I ask for that too, when you pay me by credit card. I don’t have a choice unless I’d like to enjoy zero fraud and chargeback protection.

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lots of places now

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You don’t get ads on your gas pump?

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They don’t exist in my country, and to be frank, I’m shocked they aren’t vandalised to hell and back by masked vigilantes at night.

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  • dalekcaan@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The pumps do

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ohh that is a great idea. We can put different markers in different brands and then detect those markers in a customer’s breath to tell what brand they are using on the fly.

    Then when you develop cancer from exposure we can use this information to market other brands. After all, why would you use Shell gas if it gave you cancer when you could use Exxon instead.

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• Codpiece@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why is your fuel so cheap??

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  • GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because the US is the largest exporter of petroleum products in the world.

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    • Hapankaali@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Norway exports far more than they use, and petrol prices there are among the highest in the world.

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    • BooBees@fedinsfw.app ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And assholes, but I saw a pack of hotdogs for 10 bucks today here in Oklahoma

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  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There was a Planet Money episode that broke down where the $4/gallon went in 2022:

    $2.40 for the price of crude oil when priced at $100/barrel.

    $0.65 to the refiner that turns crude oil into gasoline (this was the prevailing spread in 2022, maybe different now).

    $0.184 in federal taxes

    $0.30 in state taxes

    $0.20 to $0.50 for transportation from the refiner to the actual retail station.

    Remainder is for the retailer (usually about $0.30 but fluctuates wildly).

    That’s how it is in the U.S. In other countries, it might be higher taxes, higher cost of refining, higher costs of transportation from the refiner, and higher margins for the retailer.

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  • kn33@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Low taxes, high production, and government corn subsidies.

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  • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Political choices and lobbying

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  • brap@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was thinking that. Hot fuck is that cheap.

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    • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can’t tell if you’re from outside the US, or from California.

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    • Codpiece@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess there has to be something positive about the country.

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  • tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Probably before VAT.

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    • kn33@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nope. Gas pumps are one of the only places in the US where the price as displayed includes taxes.

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• SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How have TVs gotten so cheap. It’s gotta be shit.

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  • Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They stopped making them out of gasoline.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Boy you are gonna be shocked when you learn about where plastic comes from.

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  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m guessing it’s all advertising deals and spyware. Oh, and the TV is still shit.

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    • 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yea, TVs are all “Smart” now. But they don’t have any truly new or useful features, they just record your conversations and transmit occurrences of keywords as “usage and diagnostic” data. I guess now they can use wifi to do occupancy scans of your house too, so that’s fun. Oh and they use Bluetooth to scan for nearby devices that are willing to cooperate in case you don’t put them on the LAN and they transmit that way.

      Anyway, TNG has left Netflix. Can you fucking believe it?

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    • DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Telly is a TV you can pre-order, which is completely free but apparently pays for itself with all the ads it will display lol

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  • sibannac@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nearly all tvs are smart tvs that make money with showing ads and selling data. Any loss on the hardware is made up on selling customer data and ad space. The tvs would be amazing if they didn’t come with smart features.

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    • stickly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there any way to lobotomize these smart TVs? Even the specs on a cheaper mid-range would blow my current dinosaur out of the water

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    • BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      did this happen recently? i got mine in 2019 its enormous and all it does it turn on and lets me play xbox

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    • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The build quality is not great, they saved on backlight heatsinking so the LEDs will bake and delaminate, causing dark spots, discoloration etc.

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    • leaveWitX@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TV?No, it’s just a big display

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  • RedMari@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They externalize their true cost to the environment and laborers.

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    • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t forget ads! They’re also subsidized by the ads they’re definitely going to inject if you use the built in OS.

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    • rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In both cases. We don’t pay nearly the real cost of gasoline.

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  • timochka@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TVs were always cheap compared to cost to make the things - it’s not just the “oh, they have advertising now” thing.

    Source: I worked in electronics retail in the late 80s/early 90s, and in one of the world’s largest consumer electronics firms when my career proper started.

    The TVs in the window of the local electronics chain store (or in Walmart) were sold at practically zero margin, or more often than not at a loss. The retail chains would basically hold a gun to the CE companies heads and tell them if you’re not willing to sell at a loss, nothing you make is going in the window display, or worst case we’re not selling you at all.

    The retail chains didn’t care because all their profit was in selling accessories and unnecessary extended warranties. The CE companies hoped that they could make it up by selling you the more expensive model they actually made a profit on once you were in the door, or by selling you a VCR or whatever as well.

    This is why the TV companies were always looking for a “next big thing” (flat-screen, ultraflat, widescreen, HD, 3D, 4k, 8k…) to differentiate the “next model up”, which is to say the model the store would actually allow them to make a profit on.

    This particular race-to-the-bottom mutually assured destruction business model is also the reason there is practically no consumer electronics manufacturing left in the West, of course. And why manufacturers grasp at stuff like advertising.

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    • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TVs were always cheap compared to cost to make the things - it’s not just the “oh, they have advertising now” thing.

      Yes, and the cost of making them keeps dropping. When you were selling TVs in 1991, a 30 inch TV cost about $500 in 1991 dollars. The technology back then just basically made it complex and labor intensive to manufacture, and they were so heavy that it actually took significant number of human labor hours just to get it from factory to store to the specific store’s display. Merely putting a 30 inch TV in the window of a store was probably a 2-man lift.

      Whereas today it’s a bunch of robots in cleanrooms automating production of high volumes of solid state LCD components to where full color displays can be put in cheap appliances, and finished 30 inch TVs being thin and light enough to be moved with one hand while sipping a coffee with the other.

      I’m not surprised it’s much cheaper today, even a tiny fraction of the time period you’re talking about, even when back then they were selling at a loss.

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    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Shame, I particularly miss Panasonic and Sony

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  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TVs are made from components that are made through almost entirely automated processes at such large scales that the underlying raw material and cost of shipping become the main driver of cost. Paradoxically, that means that TVs that have gotten thinner and lighter use less material and therefore have a lower floor of how little it can cost.

    Once a production line is set up to make the components, each additional one produced costs very little, so making high volume runs is the key: lots of shared parts between brands and models, very long production runs to minimize the cost of redesign or retooling or downtime.

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  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re single use and throwaway, with the bonus of spyware. Like everything made today. Everything.

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• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gas is cheaper than milk, Thats kinda fucked considering gasoline is finite

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The fuck? Milk is 2x to 4x cheaper ($0.50-$1.00) than the most common gas, Natural 95 ($2.10) here. I thought you’d get something from those crazy “Got milk?” dairy subsidies…

    (Multiply by 4.5 to get US units rather than liters)

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      2x cheaper is a crazy way of saying half as expensive.

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  • texture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you think cows are infinite?

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    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes it’s called breeding. You can’t breed more gasoline

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• bitteroldcoot@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And I think you shouldn’t be driving a giant gas guzzling SUV or truck.

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I filled up a family members Rav4 the other day. It was $96.

    Not exactly the best car, but hardly a gas guzzler. Or maybe it is, idk. I normally drive electric.

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    • bitteroldcoot@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My CRV takes 10 gallon when it’s on empty. and gets 32 mpg. Just saying.

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    • 0ops@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even my motorcycle is $25 to fill

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Could be a labourer. I didn’t see much point in trucks and such before but now it makes sense for some to have them.

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  • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    80 bucks to fill up my minivan.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    17 gallons is 64 liters, that’s a midsize sedan tank.

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    • Sirius006@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah you should not drive a tank either.

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• HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  TV is cheap because you are the product. CEOs want you to see their ads, their propaganda.

  Gas is expensive because they have not yet found a way to stop car-owner from leaving the sofa in front of TV

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  • CannedYeet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But they do have ads at the pumps

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tvs are cheap because manufacturing costs came down. They were cheap before they were smart

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    • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Both are true. Manufacturing costs went down significantly, but non-smart TVs are bow more expensive than smart TVs bu over $100.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Car companies could learn a lot from the printer industry.

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    • HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If production of cars and oil were the same companies, cars would be as cheap as TVs and gas for them would be 10x current price.

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• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah gas should be a lot more expensive.

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• M137@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  High fuel prices is a good thing and a 32" TV shouldn’t be that cheap.

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  • krisevol@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is when you offshore all your jobs and import from slave labor countries, all while using a currency that is able to be printed from thin air effectively taxing the world because it’s a reserve currency.

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• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.

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  • ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Healthcare is only for the weak. I am one if the elect; god loves me, so I won’t ever need to think about that.

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  • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tell me about it. Why is cost of gas what we focus on

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• dan@upvote.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gas would be more expensive if it wasn’t subsidized.

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• whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The tv should have always cost more. That’s part of the problem. America drunk on cheap consumer goods.

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  • quips@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I disagree. America has heavy subsidies on gas prices.

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I can’t believe how cheap TVs are. I think I bought a 22” CRT 25 years ago and it was easily over $200.

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• thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gas is a cheat code to decades of stored solar energy. It won’t be cheap for ever. Once you mine up all that shit it’s gone.

  Look at WV and their coal. Use to have 12 ft coal seams. Now all that’s left are hard to reach low quality 1-2ft seams. At some point it’s not even worth the energy to extract.

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• HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Companies that sell TV sets actually lose money on the sale. They make their profits by selling your data to advertising companies.

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• XLE@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s because they can’t put ads in your gas tank. Vizio TVs won’t fully function until you sign in with a Walmart account.

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• Furbag@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lol you can see where the “I did that” sticker used to be…

  Wonder if it was an old Biden version or a new Trump version.

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• protist@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The price of the TVs hadn’t caught up to the price of energy and other commodities that are used to manufacture and transport them. We will be seeing that inflation hit over the next 6 months

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• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I ride an ebike. Can someone explain the picture on the left? Is it some sort of tax booth for car ownership?

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That TV was manufactured unethically.

  Meanwhile, the gasoline produced to support the native peoples of Qatar, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

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• bassad@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why not?

  Oil is a product manufactured by millions of years of stratified organic stuffs and high pressures, it is a concentrate of energy.

  TV is not as useful.

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• zewm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  32” is tiny and even at $3 a gallon, that fill would be over $50.

  I’m not really seeing the argument here tbh. It’s apples and oranges.

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• jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are you paying for the cheap tv by bringing hostile spywear into your home?

  It’s possible not, I suppose.

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• stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I neither, can I pay double for the Tv without the poorly named smartness in it?

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• gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ehh, why not? electronics got really cheap.

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• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You guys subsidize milk, you should be paying more. And our milk is better quality and organic, Thats why we refuse to buy the crap from the US

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• kamen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One of those doesn’t come loaded with ads.

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• 10thGlyphix@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It is an Onn brand tv… so its super cheaply made, sold buy a fascist supporting company, likely contains Spyware, and will break after 3 years of consistent use. Hmm. That or 15 gallons of liquid corpses that i can burn to slowly contribute to the death of all life on earth… hmm. Choices choices. Think I’ll walk/bike.

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• defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I agree when it comes to an onn TV. It should be the same price as a name brand TV.

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• Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What kind of car needs 17 Gallons of capacity?

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• BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now think about solar power.

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