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Derpenheim@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
bitjunkie@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Four Loko was the start and eventual downfall of many wild and ultimately regrettable times.
tempest@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Any mistake I make is actually just my dialect
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Donât bother correcting my English grammar, as I have no respect for this language <3
P1k1e@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
And if folks knew what you meant, itâs fine
Zwiebel@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
That is what âdescriptiveâ in level 4 means
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
2Ï: two pi
Ï: one pus
aeronmelon@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
American English: âAll of the above are valid.â
âEven âoctopussies?ââ
American English: ââŠsure.â
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Search engines: this is a work computer
davidgro@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Just researching adaptations of classic literature.
trolololol@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Bluewing@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
There is a difference in Octopussys here. One is slippery, the other is not.
thenextguy@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopoden!
ArcaneGadget@nord.pub âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
There were manny of them! Manny much octopoden!
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs technically octopods
This is true for the scientific sense that itâs order Octopoda (e.g. the plural for members of Hexapoda is âhexapodsâ and âdecapodsâ for Decapoda), but then itâs kind of like saying the plural for âlobsterâ is ânephropidsâ. The names are close for Octopoda and octopus, but itâs still taking the colloquial name and pluralizing it into its scientific name. I think itâs a reasonable alternative since itâs so close, but itâs not specifically âto bring it in line with cephalopodâ; thatâs just how pluralization of taxa ending in âpodaâ works generally.
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Once I learned that âoctopodesâ is pronounced oct-TOP-o-dees not OCT-uh-pohds it became my pluralization of choice.
pooberbee@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopodes nuts
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I hadnât even thought about that, it makes total since being derived from Greek. I am not fully on team octopodes.
PintOShenanigans@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopodes nuts
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Student: âlanguage is prescriptive not descriptiveâ
Teacher: âyou fail 3rd grade spellingâ
And I absolutely support keeping people back who believe English should be guided and evolved through âLikesâ.
antonim@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Putting aside the technicalities (it is not language that is prescriptive or descriptive, but linguistics), thatâs a widespread position among perfectly literate people, including professional linguists. Nothing to do with the number of âlikesâ.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Sure, languages evolve I guess but this isnât really that IMO.
The whole idea of etymology is that you can figure out what a word means from its roots. If you throw all that out, you give up the scaffolding that makes words make any sense. Same goes for grammatical rules. It seems like the argument for descriptivism is âletâs not be elitist when people become less competent with the rules of a languageâ, and while thatâs a fine ideal, yer usin ma words wrong!
I suspect there is also a body of professional linguists who oppose your point for the same reasons.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
different languages and institutions have different viewpoints. Turkish and French are more prescriptive, english and spanish more descriptive*
- except when it comes to those gay alternate pronouns, like ew, we canât reflect the documentation of a language for a few Fa-[slur]s.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Spanish from Spain has an official dictionary that dictates what is correct and isnât. You canât be more prescriptive than that. Sure, that dictionary adds words based on usage, even ones that are clear misspellings of the ârealâ word, but they are marked as so.
myotheraccount@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
2 octopus = 1 hexadecipus
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
4 Quadropus = 8 bipus
ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Now Iâm afraid to but too curious not to ask where might I find the octogoose?
Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
In hell, next to cerberus probably.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
you gotta make 'em yourself
makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopussies is actually the name for a harem of Maud Adams clones
hakunawazo@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
matelt@feddit.uk âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
my my my, what a cunning linguist!
Chakravanti@monero.town âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Hey, at least your not trying to cun troll the upstairs.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Just like meese is the plural of moose
JackbyDev@programming.dev âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
No cheeses for us meeces :(
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Plurals in English are always a bit of a roll of the diceâŠ
captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Or: Mouse - mice house - hice
lobut@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Merriam Websterâs response: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s166nC_hiZ0
_g_be@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I spent the entire 2nd half of that video in fear that it was actually an elaborate âoctopodeez nutsâ joke
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Level 10: all forms are valid as long as enough people use them. The currently most used forms are octopuses and octopi, both valid, but octopi is malformed, so octopuses is preferred. Octopussses and octopii and rare variants of those. Also correct, but rarely used.
Octopodes is also correct, but considered pedantic. Level 11: Just use what you are used to.Chakravanti@monero.town âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Level ATF&C: Glob
tiredofsametab@fedia.io âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I thought it was octopuxen?
Hadriscus@jlai.lu âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
So⊠2 cephalopods, 1 cephalopus ?
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Cephalussy
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
It should just refer to the number of tentacles. So, for two of them, it would be sÄdecimpus
scutiger@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopuses have limbs known as âarms.â
Tentacles are a different thing, like the two that squid have (the rest are also arms.)
YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Next, we pronounce âapoptosisâ.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Cephalopus
theacharnian@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
As a native greek speaker, I find anything other than âoctopusesâ to be silly. In greek we donât say (any more) octopodes, we say âchtapodiaâ (the âchâ is the canonical transliteration of the letter Ï).
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Could you just clarify one thing? I was told that the plural wouldnât be octopodes, but octopoda, similarly to what you used for modern Greek.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
In modern Greek, singular: ÏÏαÏÏÎŽÎč, plural: ÏÏαÏÏÎŽÎčα.
Transliterated using standard ELOT (that maps Ï to ch) singular: chtapodi, plural: chtapodia.
The word is composite and contracted. First part originally is ÎżÏÏÏ (8) (transliteration: ochto) but has been uncommonly shortened to ÏÏα (chta). Second part is the word for foot (singular: ÏÏÎŽÎč/podi, plural: ÏÏÎŽÎčα/podia).
So without the uncommon shortening in more archaic Greek it would be: ÎżÏÏαÏÏÎŽÎč (ochtapodi) and ÎżÏÏαÏÏÎŽÎčα (ochtapodia).
If ELOT is ignored and ÎżÏÏÏ is transliterated as octo, then you can get to octapodi, octapodia.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I do like octopods. I will use that from now on and you canât stop me.
BoosBeau@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Call 'em whatever you like, theyâre all octobussies to me.
Chakravanti@monero.town âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Flip that Bee and Iâm onboard.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Level 3 is the most correct.
gnutrino@programming.dev âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Nah, level 1 is actually correct. Regardless of its etymology, octopus is an english word and should be pluralised accordingly.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Level 3 includes level 1 in it, with the addition of a correct plural using the original languageâs rules.
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
But see hereâs the thing, English has no rules for plurals, so âaccordinglyâ basically means âby vibesâ.
webp@mander.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopiss
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
They have more than 7 reproductive organs?
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Octopodes, pronounced oc-top-o-dees, not oc-to-po-des. Like Hercules.
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Confused Squidward noises.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Your prof is Roger Moore?
lvxferre@mander.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Lv7: the legs the two octopodum got tangled, so the octopodes asked help from two other octopodibus.
ENOUGH OF THE NOMINATIVE TYRANNY!
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
One of my favorite things in life is using Latin or Greek plurals on words that it makes absolutely no sense to use them on, and do not follow the rules of any language naturally involved.
I had steak and potati for dinner last night. Just one steak, though, I cannot eat multiple steakices
dropcase@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Reminds me of a joke:
A Roman soldier walks into a bar and says, âIâll have a martinusâ
Bartender says, âdonât you mean a martini?â
The Roman says. âif I wanted more than one I wouldâve asked for it!â
lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I also do this! My personal top 3 are:
Jesus - Jesi
Bus - Bi
Penis - Penorum
lvxferre@mander.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
WROOOOONG! Now write the full declension table on that wall. And make sure to draw some pictures with it, so you never forget the word!
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I have a wealthy friend who has a penorium in their house.
HamsterRage@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
For decades now, my wife and I have used âKleeniâ as the plural of âKleenexâ.
Tortellinius@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Kleenex is KneenÄs according to the rules of Latin, actually
bitjunkie@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Looks like you beat us to level 7
Chakravanti@monero.town âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I can eat all the steak ices.