🐙 Octopus is Octopus 🐙

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• dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  One of my favorite things in life is using Latin or Greek plurals on words that it makes absolutely no sense to use them on, and do not follow the rules of any language naturally involved.

  I had steak and potati for dinner last night. Just one steak, though, I cannot eat multiple steakices

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  • dropcase@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reminds me of a joke:

    A Roman soldier walks into a bar and says, “I’ll have a martinus”

    Bartender says, “don’t you mean a martini?”

    The Roman says. “if I wanted more than one I would’ve asked for it!”

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  • lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I also do this! My personal top 3 are:

    Jesus - Jesi

    Bus - Bi

    Penis - Penorum

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Penis - Penorum

      WROOOOONG! Now write the full declension table on that wall. And make sure to draw some pictures with it, so you never forget the word!

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    • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have a wealthy friend who has a penorium in their house.

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  • HamsterRage@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For decades now, my wife and I have used “Kleeni” as the plural of “Kleenex”.

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    • Tortellinius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kleenex is Kneenēs according to the rules of Latin, actually

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Looks like you beat us to level 7

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  • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can eat all the steak ices.

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• Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Its whatever your heart is telling you.

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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    • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Four Loko was the start and eventual downfall of many wild and ultimately regrettable times.

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  • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Any mistake I make is actually just my dialect

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    • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Don’t bother correcting my English grammar, as I have no respect for this language <3

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  • P1k1e@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And if folks knew what you meant, it’s fine

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That is what ‘descriptive’ in level 4 means

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• carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  2π: two pi

  π: one pus

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• aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  American English: “All of the above are valid.”

  “Even ‘octopussies?’”

  American English: “…sure.”

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “even ‘octopussies’?”
    american english:
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  • nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Search engines: this is a work computer

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    • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just researching adaptations of classic literature.

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  • trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aham, there’s some precedent

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    • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is a difference in Octopussys here. One is slippery, the other is not.

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• thenextguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Octopoden!

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  • ArcaneGadget@nord.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There were manny of them! Manny much octopoden!

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• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s technically octopods

  This is true for the scientific sense that it’s order Octopoda (e.g. the plural for members of Hexapoda is “hexapods” and “decapods” for Decapoda), but then it’s kind of like saying the plural for “lobster” is “nephropids”. The names are close for Octopoda and octopus, but it’s still taking the colloquial name and pluralizing it into its scientific name. I think it’s a reasonable alternative since it’s so close, but it’s not specifically “to bring it in line with cephalopod”; that’s just how pluralization of taxa ending in ‘poda’ works generally.

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  • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Once I learned that “octopodes” is pronounced oct-TOP-o-dees not OCT-uh-pohds it became my pluralization of choice.

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    • pooberbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Octopodes nuts

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    • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hadn’t even thought about that, it makes total since being derived from Greek. I am not fully on team octopodes.

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• PintOShenanigans@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Octopodes nuts

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Student: “language is prescriptive not descriptive”

  Teacher: “you fail 3rd grade spelling”

  And I absolutely support keeping people back who believe English should be guided and evolved through “Likes”.

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  • antonim@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Putting aside the technicalities (it is not language that is prescriptive or descriptive, but linguistics), that’s a widespread position among perfectly literate people, including professional linguists. Nothing to do with the number of “likes”.

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    • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, languages evolve I guess but this isn’t really that IMO.

      The whole idea of etymology is that you can figure out what a word means from its roots. If you throw all that out, you give up the scaffolding that makes words make any sense. Same goes for grammatical rules. It seems like the argument for descriptivism is “let’s not be elitist when people become less competent with the rules of a language”, and while that’s a fine ideal, yer usin ma words wrong!

      I suspect there is also a body of professional linguists who oppose your point for the same reasons.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    different languages and institutions have different viewpoints. Turkish and French are more prescriptive, english and spanish more descriptive*

    • except when it comes to those gay alternate pronouns, like ew, we can’t reflect the documentation of a language for a few Fa-[slur]s.

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    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Spanish from Spain has an official dictionary that dictates what is correct and isn’t. You can’t be more prescriptive than that. Sure, that dictionary adds words based on usage, even ones that are clear misspellings of the “real” word, but they are marked as so.

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• myotheraccount@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  2 octopus = 1 hexadecipus

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  • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    4 Quadropus = 8 bipus

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• ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Now I’m afraid to but too curious not to ask where might I find the octogoose?

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  • Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In hell, next to cerberus probably.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    you gotta make 'em yourself

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• makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Octopussies is actually the name for a harem of Maud Adams clones

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  • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• matelt@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  my my my, what a cunning linguist!

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  • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey, at least your not trying to cun troll the upstairs.

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• AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Just like meese is the plural of moose

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No cheeses for us meeces :(

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  • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Plurals in English are always a bit of a roll of the dice…

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  • captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or: Mouse - mice house - hice

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• lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Merriam Webster’s response: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s166nC_hiZ0

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  • _g_be@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I spent the entire 2nd half of that video in fear that it was actually an elaborate “octopodeez nuts” joke

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• MithranArkanere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Level 10: all forms are valid as long as enough people use them. The currently most used forms are octopuses and octopi, both valid, but octopi is malformed, so octopuses is preferred. Octopussses and octopii and rare variants of those. Also correct, but rarely used.
  Octopodes is also correct, but considered pedantic. Level 11: Just use what you are used to.

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  • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Level ATF&C: Glob

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• tiredofsametab@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I thought it was octopuxen?

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• Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So… 2 cephalopods, 1 cephalopus ?

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  • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cephalussy

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It should just refer to the number of tentacles. So, for two of them, it would be sēdecimpus

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  • scutiger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Octopuses have limbs known as “arms.”

    Tentacles are a different thing, like the two that squid have (the rest are also arms.)

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• YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Next, we pronounce “apoptosis”.

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• orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Cephalopus

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• theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As a native greek speaker, I find anything other than “octopuses” to be silly. In greek we don’t say (any more) octopodes, we say “chtapodia” (the “ch” is the canonical transliteration of the letter χ).

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  • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Could you just clarify one thing? I was told that the plural wouldn’t be octopodes, but octopoda, similarly to what you used for modern Greek.

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    • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In modern Greek, singular: χταπόδι, plural: χταπόδια.

      Transliterated using standard ELOT (that maps χ to ch) singular: chtapodi, plural: chtapodia.

      The word is composite and contracted. First part originally is οχτώ (8) (transliteration: ochto) but has been uncommonly shortened to χτα (chta). Second part is the word for foot (singular: πόδι/podi, plural: πόδια/podia).

      So without the uncommon shortening in more archaic Greek it would be: οχταπόδι (ochtapodi) and οχταπόδια (ochtapodia).

      If ELOT is ignored and οχτώ is transliterated as octo, then you can get to octapodi, octapodia.

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• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I do like octopods. I will use that from now on and you can’t stop me.

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• BoosBeau@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Call 'em whatever you like, they’re all octobussies to me.

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  • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Flip that Bee and I’m onboard.

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• samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Level 3 is the most correct.

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  • gnutrino@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nah, level 1 is actually correct. Regardless of its etymology, octopus is an english word and should be pluralised accordingly.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Level 3 includes level 1 in it, with the addition of a correct plural using the original language’s rules.

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    • veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But see here’s the thing, English has no rules for plurals, so “accordingly” basically means “by vibes”.

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• webp@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Octopiss

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• prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They have more than 7 reproductive organs?

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• megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Octopodes, pronounced oc-top-o-dees, not oc-to-po-des. Like Hercules.

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• Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Confused Squidward noises.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Your prof is Roger Moore?

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lv7: the legs the two octopodum got tangled, so the octopodes asked help from two other octopodibus.

  ENOUGH OF THE NOMINATIVE TYRANNY!

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