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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    One of my favorite things in life is using Latin or Greek plurals on words that it makes absolutely no sense to use them on, and do not follow the rules of any language naturally involved.

    I had steak and potati for dinner last night. Just one steak, though, I cannot eat multiple steakices

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    • dropcase@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Reminds me of a joke:

      A Roman soldier walks into a bar and says, “I’ll have a martinus”

      Bartender says, “don’t you mean a martini?”

      The Roman says. “if I wanted more than one I would’ve asked for it!”

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    • lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I also do this! My personal top 3 are:

      Jesus - Jesi

      Bus - Bi

      Penis - Penorum

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      • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Penis - Penorum

        WROOOOONG! Now write the full declension table on that wall. And make sure to draw some pictures with it, so you never forget the word!

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      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I have a wealthy friend who has a penorium in their house.

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    • HamsterRage@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      For decades now, my wife and I have used “Kleeni” as the plural of “Kleenex”.

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      • Tortellinius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Kleenex is Kneenēs according to the rules of Latin, actually

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Looks like you beat us to level 7

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I can eat all the steak ices.

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  • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Its whatever your heart is telling you.

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Image

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      • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Four Loko was the start and eventual downfall of many wild and ultimately regrettable times.

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    • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Any mistake I make is actually just my dialect

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      • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Don’t bother correcting my English grammar, as I have no respect for this language <3

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    • P1k1e@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And if folks knew what you meant, it’s fine

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That is what ‘descriptive’ in level 4 means

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  • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    2π: two pi

    π: one pus

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    American English: “All of the above are valid.”

    “Even ‘octopussies?’”

    American English: “…sure.”

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “even ‘octopussies’?”
      american english:
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    • nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Search engines: this is a work computer

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      • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Just researching adaptations of classic literature.

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    • trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Aham, there’s some precedent

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      • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        There is a difference in Octopussys here. One is slippery, the other is not.

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  • thenextguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Octopoden!

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    • ArcaneGadget@nord.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There were manny of them! Manny much octopoden!

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  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s technically octopods

    This is true for the scientific sense that it’s order Octopoda (e.g. the plural for members of Hexapoda is “hexapods” and “decapods” for Decapoda), but then it’s kind of like saying the plural for “lobster” is “nephropids”. The names are close for Octopoda and octopus, but it’s still taking the colloquial name and pluralizing it into its scientific name. I think it’s a reasonable alternative since it’s so close, but it’s not specifically “to bring it in line with cephalopod”; that’s just how pluralization of taxa ending in ‘poda’ works generally.

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    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Once I learned that “octopodes” is pronounced oct-TOP-o-dees not OCT-uh-pohds it became my pluralization of choice.

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      • pooberbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Octopodes nuts

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      • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I hadn’t even thought about that, it makes total since being derived from Greek. I am not fully on team octopodes.

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  • PintOShenanigans@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Octopodes nuts

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Student: “language is prescriptive not descriptive”

    Teacher: “you fail 3rd grade spelling”

    And I absolutely support keeping people back who believe English should be guided and evolved through “Likes”.

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    • antonim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Putting aside the technicalities (it is not language that is prescriptive or descriptive, but linguistics), that’s a widespread position among perfectly literate people, including professional linguists. Nothing to do with the number of “likes”.

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      • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Sure, languages evolve I guess but this isn’t really that IMO.

        The whole idea of etymology is that you can figure out what a word means from its roots. If you throw all that out, you give up the scaffolding that makes words make any sense. Same goes for grammatical rules. It seems like the argument for descriptivism is “let’s not be elitist when people become less competent with the rules of a language”, and while that’s a fine ideal, yer usin ma words wrong!

        I suspect there is also a body of professional linguists who oppose your point for the same reasons.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      different languages and institutions have different viewpoints. Turkish and French are more prescriptive, english and spanish more descriptive*

      • except when it comes to those gay alternate pronouns, like ew, we can’t reflect the documentation of a language for a few Fa-[slur]s.
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      • calcopiritus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Spanish from Spain has an official dictionary that dictates what is correct and isn’t. You can’t be more prescriptive than that. Sure, that dictionary adds words based on usage, even ones that are clear misspellings of the “real” word, but they are marked as so.

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  • myotheraccount@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    2 octopus = 1 hexadecipus

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    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      4 Quadropus = 8 bipus

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  • ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Now I’m afraid to but too curious not to ask where might I find the octogoose?

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    • Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      In hell, next to cerberus probably.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      you gotta make 'em yourself

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  • makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Octopussies is actually the name for a harem of Maud Adams clones

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    • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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  • matelt@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    my my my, what a cunning linguist!

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Hey, at least your not trying to cun troll the upstairs.

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  • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just like meese is the plural of moose

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      No cheeses for us meeces :(

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    • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Plurals in English are always a bit of a roll of the dice…

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    • captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Or: Mouse - mice house - hice

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  • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Merriam Webster’s response: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s166nC_hiZ0

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    • _g_be@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I spent the entire 2nd half of that video in fear that it was actually an elaborate “octopodeez nuts” joke

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  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Level 10: all forms are valid as long as enough people use them. The currently most used forms are octopuses and octopi, both valid, but octopi is malformed, so octopuses is preferred. Octopussses and octopii and rare variants of those. Also correct, but rarely used.
    Octopodes is also correct, but considered pedantic. Level 11: Just use what you are used to.

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Level ATF&C: Glob

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  • tiredofsametab@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I thought it was octopuxen?

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  • Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So… 2 cephalopods, 1 cephalopus ?

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    • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Cephalussy

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It should just refer to the number of tentacles. So, for two of them, it would be sēdecimpus

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    • scutiger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Octopuses have limbs known as “arms.”

      Tentacles are a different thing, like the two that squid have (the rest are also arms.)

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  • YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Next, we pronounce “apoptosis”.

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  • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Cephalopus

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As a native greek speaker, I find anything other than “octopuses” to be silly. In greek we don’t say (any more) octopodes, we say “chtapodia” (the “ch” is the canonical transliteration of the letter χ).

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    • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Could you just clarify one thing? I was told that the plural wouldn’t be octopodes, but octopoda, similarly to what you used for modern Greek.

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      • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        In modern Greek, singular: χταπόδι, plural: χταπόδια.

        Transliterated using standard ELOT (that maps χ to ch) singular: chtapodi, plural: chtapodia.

        The word is composite and contracted. First part originally is οχτώ (8) (transliteration: ochto) but has been uncommonly shortened to χτα (chta). Second part is the word for foot (singular: πόδι/podi, plural: πόδια/podia).

        So without the uncommon shortening in more archaic Greek it would be: οχταπόδι (ochtapodi) and οχταπόδια (ochtapodia).

        If ELOT is ignored and οχτώ is transliterated as octo, then you can get to octapodi, octapodia.

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I do like octopods. I will use that from now on and you can’t stop me.

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  • BoosBeau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Call 'em whatever you like, they’re all octobussies to me.

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Flip that Bee and I’m onboard.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Level 3 is the most correct.

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    • gnutrino@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Nah, level 1 is actually correct. Regardless of its etymology, octopus is an english word and should be pluralised accordingly.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Level 3 includes level 1 in it, with the addition of a correct plural using the original language’s rules.

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      • veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        But see here’s the thing, English has no rules for plurals, so “accordingly” basically means “by vibes”.

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  • webp@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Octopiss

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  • prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They have more than 7 reproductive organs?

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  • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Octopodes, pronounced oc-top-o-dees, not oc-to-po-des. Like Hercules.

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  • Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Confused Squidward noises.

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  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Your prof is Roger Moore?

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Lv7: the legs the two octopodum got tangled, so the octopodes asked help from two other octopodibus.

    ENOUGH OF THE NOMINATIVE TYRANNY!

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