lvxferre
@lvxferre@mander.xyz
The catarrhine who invented a perpetual motion machine, by dreaming at night and devouring its own dreams through the day.
- Comment on In the Future All Food Will Be Cooked in a Microwave, and if You Can’t Deal With That Then You Need to Get Out of the Kitchen 16 hours ago:
I think we should all burn an effigy in commitment to safe microwaves ovens.
- Comment on How many r are there in strawberry? 1 day ago:
[special pleading] Those are all the smallest models
[sarcasm] Yeah, because if you randomly throw more bricks in a construction site, the bigger pile of debris will look more like a house, right. [/sarcasm]
and you don’t seem to have reasoning [SIC] mode, or external tooling, enabled?
Those are the chatbots available through DDG. I just found it amusing enough to share, given
- The logic procedure to be followed (multiplication) is rather simple, and well documented across the internet, thus certainly present in their corpora.
- The result is easy to judge: it’s either correct or incorrect.
- All answers are incorrect and different from each other.
Small note regarding “reasoning”: just like “hallucination” and anything they say about semantics, it’s a red herring that obfuscates what is really happening.
At the end of the day it’s simply weighting the next token based on the previous tokens + prompt, and optionally calling some external tool. It is not really reasoning; what’s doing is not too different in spirit from Markov chains, except more complex.
[no true Scotsman] LLM ≠ AI system
If large “language” models don’t count as “AI systems”, then what you shared in the OP does not either. You can’t eat your cake and have it too.
It’s been known for fome time, that LLMs do “vibe math”.
I.e. they’re unable to perform actual maths.
[moving goalposts] Internally, they try to come up with an answer that “feels” right…
It doesn’t matter if the answer “feels” right (whatever this means). The answer is incorrect.
which makes it pretty impressive for them to come anywhere close, within a ±10% error margin.
No, the fact they are unable to perform a simple logical procedure is not “impressive”. Specially not when outputting the “approximation” as if it was the true value; note how none of the models outputted anything remotely similar to “the result is close to
$number” or “the result is approximately$number”.[arbitrary restriction + whataboutism] Ask people to tell you what a right answer could be, give them 1 second to answer… see how many come that close to the right one.
None of the prompts had a time limit. You’re making shit up.
Also. Sure, humans brainfart all the time; that does not magically mean that those systems are smart or doing some 4D chess as your OP implies.
A chatbot/AI system on the other hand, will come up with some Python code to do the calculation, then run it. Still can go wrong, but it’s way less likely.
I.e. it would need to use some external tool, since it’s unable to handle logic by itself, as exemplified by maths.
all explanation past the «are you counting the “rr” as a single r?» is babble
Not so sure about that. It treats r as a word, since it wasn’t specified as “r” or single letter. Then it interpretes it as… whatever. Is it the letter, phoneme,
The output is clearly handling it as letters. It hyphenates the letters to highlight them, it mentions “digram” (i.e. a sequence of two graphemes), so goes on. And in no moment is referring to anything that can be understood as associated with sounds, phonemes. And it’s claiming there’s an ⟨r⟩ «in the middle of the “rr” combination».
font, the programming language R…
There’s no context whatsoever to justify any of those interpretations.
since it wasn’t specified, it assumes “whatever, or a mix of”.
If this was a human being, it would not be an assumption. Assumption is that sort of shit you make up from nowhere; here context dictates the reading of “r” as “the letter ⟨r⟩”.
However since this is a bot it isn’t even assuming. Just like a boulder doesn’t “assume” you want it to roll down; it simply reacts to an external stimulus.
It failed at detecting the ambiguity and communicating it spontaneously, but corrected once that became part of the conversation.
There’s no ambiguity in the initial prompt. And no, it did not correct what it says; the last reply is still babble, you don’t count ⟨rr⟩ in English as a single letter.
It’s like, in your examples… what do you mean by “by”? “3 by 6” is 36… you meant to “multiply 36”? That’s nonsense… 🤷
I’d rather not answer this one because, if I did, I’d be pissing on Beehaw’s core values.
- Comment on How many r are there in strawberry? 1 day ago:
Wrong maths, you say?
With that out of the way: you didn’t ask the number of times the phoneme /ɹ/ appears in the spoken word, so by context you’re talking about the written word, and the letter ⟨r⟩. And the bot interpreted it as such, note it answers
here, let me show you: s-t-r-a-w-b-e-r-r-y
instead of specifying the phonemes.
By the way, all explanation past the «are you counting the “rr” as a single r?» is babble.
- Comment on be gay, do computers 3 days ago:
Fair - what I said was kind of ambiguous. But yeah, “self-built” as “I bought a computer-of-Theseus 20y ago, and as I’ve bought new parts nothing of the original remains, so it’s a new computer.”
- Comment on Mastercard release a statement about game stores, payment processors and adult content 3 days ago:
I get that you weren’t disagreeing on the main point. And I think we agree that Mastercard is trying to have the cake and eat it too - it wants to be a censor without being acknowledged as such.
- Comment on Mastercard release a statement about game stores, payment processors and adult content 3 days ago:
Double reply regarding Stripe’s open statement, as it’s related to this topic:
Stripe is claiming to be “pressured” by an unknown party. But it’s going out of its way to defend that party, by not naming it and by claiming it’s a “partner”.
- Comment on Mastercard release a statement about game stores, payment processors and adult content 3 days ago:
What they’re saying is: “we haven’t called out any specific games, but we told steam if they can’t prove a game is “lawful” well cut them off”.
That interpretation is inviable because Mastercard is claiming to allow “all” lawful purchases on its network. And, given a purchase is lawful unless proved contrariwise (as a consequence of innocence unless proved guilt), it would need evidence that a purchase is unlawful, in order to prevent it.
So it’s more than just dictating what can be sold without actually stating it - people there are lying.
Now the real issue is that at the end of the Mastercard is in a position where this matters and they can influence things. Should work just like cash and leave the government to decide what items are legal/illegal.
Full agree.
- Comment on Mastercard release a statement about game stores, payment processors and adult content 3 days ago:
Mastercard has not evaluated any game or required restrictions of any activity on game creator sites and platforms, contrary to media reports and allegations.
Our payment network follows standards based on the rule of law. Put simply, we allow all lawful purchases on our network. At the same time, we require merchants to have appropriate controls to ensure Mastercard cards cannot be used for unlawful purchases, including illegal adult content.
So, Mastercard is claiming the content Steam and itch were forced to remove was unlawful. Is it?
- Comment on Substack’s “Nazi problem” won’t go away after push notification apology 4 days ago:
…well, not like I was planning to move my blog (that nobody reads) to a Neocities page… that might be the final push.
On another matter: I think the right approach is to pressure governments to make hate discourses illegal. Yes, it’s tempting to screech ‘DEPLATFORM!’, and short-term effective, but
- It’s a stop-gap measure; eventually they migrate to another platform. We shouldn’t be playing whack-a-mole with this shit.
- If you give power to a private entity, to get rid of harmful content (like hate speech), eventually it’ll remove non-harmful content when it gets some benefit out of it. Cue to recent events regarding the payment mafia and NSFW games.
- Comment on Reddit wants to be a search engine now 4 days ago:
Google is only better because you can see results that aren’t on reddit.
Nah; Reddit search is so bad, but so fucking bad that people would rather search Reddit content in Google than directly in Reddit. (Cue to the “
$queryreddit” pseudo-hack).And this discrepancy will get even bigger with both sides worsening their searches with AI.
- Comment on Reddit wants to be a search engine now 4 days ago:
Both sides are doing it. Except Google has enough resources to make it slightly less terrible.
- Comment on Reddit wants to be a search engine now 4 days ago:
Confirmed: not even Greedy Pigboy uses that fucking shithole. If he did, he would know that Reddit search sucks major balls, and that it would take a lot of money to fix it.
And this would also taunt Reddit’s effective suzerain Google/Alphabet. Whose core monopoly is… well, search. Probably finding ways to wreck with Reddit.
- Comment on be gay, do computers 5 days ago:
Turing is gone for years; got replaced with Midgard and then Tiberis, the current machine. Here’s Tiberis:
inb4 my desk is a mess and to be replaced, and I need to clean Tiberis’ guts. The pics highlight how dirty it is.
specs
* CPU - Ryzen 7 5700X3D * GPU - Biostar AMD Radeon RX 6600 * Motherboard - Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite * RAM - Apacer Nox, RGB, 2*16GB * SSD - Adata SU650 480GB, Sata III * HDD - a Seagate 2TB, I don’t recall further info * Power supply - Gamdias Cyclops M1-750B * Fans - Aigo Darkflash DR08, ARGB * LED strip - Pichau MAG 200, ARGB * Case - a second hand Mancer case a friend sold me.
- Comment on How To Be Evil in RPGs When You’re a Chronic Goody-Two-Shoes 1 week ago:
Undertale taught me how to be evil in RPGs. Without giving you spoilers: it pitches that tendency of players of wanting to see it all versus their morality.
- Comment on Get out of my head 1 week ago:
I noticed it’s easier to shift back to the “pink döner” first perception if you hide the top half of the pic.
- Comment on if H₂O is so great why isn’t there H₂O₂ 1 week ago:
I’m diabetic, you insensitive clod!!one!!!eleven
- Comment on if H₂O is so great why isn’t there H₂O₂ 1 week ago:
Is there some story behind PPB? As in, why do you guys like that pic so much?
- Comment on 1 week ago:
Ok have you personally taken responsibility for the fact that your media consumption has made your worldview delusional?
This is a loaded question on the same level as “did you stop beating your wife? Yes or no?”.
But let’s bite: yes.
I come from a scientific background. And you don’t get to keep delusions about something when reality is making you interact with that thing over and over, regardless of the origin of said delusions, as soon as you step into the uni. And one of the things I often talk with people is how science is misrepresented in media, specially after that clown of the former president of my country started babbling about Ivermectin*.
And, due to the nature of the content of this community, I expect at least some of the other people in this comm to be in the same situation as me - to be from a scientific background (or even scientists themselves) and to try to spread awareness on how media misrepresents science, the scientific method, and scientists.
Unless you’re decontextualising the whole thing to talk about media-based delusions in general, even if the context screams “regarding science”.
(Or perhaps you’ll try to change goalposts and say something like "ackshyually, taking responsibility is something else lol lmao.)
Nope? Ok then I am not making an assumption,
Even if your assumption was true (it is not), it would be still an assumption. You’re still vomiting certainty about something you cannot reliably know, such as what all individuals in a whole group of people do or don’t.
I am stating human nature
I think that both of us know that you’re bullshitting.
*just to point out another assumption you’re voicing in your comment: “It is why we have a racist reality tv show actor as president”. Why do you think everybody here is American?
- Comment on US criticizes French inquiry into social media platform X 1 week ago:
The social media company last week denied the allegations, calling them ‘politically motivated.’
“We don’t want some rogue fascists from the outside to meddle in our elections” is politically motivated, and there’s nothing wrong with it.
So congrats for the Apartheid-born moron and his drones: you’re correct and wrong at the same time.
- Comment on if H₂O is so great why isn’t there H₂O₂ 1 week ago:
Some users there are fairly decent, but their collective reputation is deserved due to how they behave outside their instance.
- Comment on 1 week ago:
all of you refuse to face
Stop assuming.
- Comment on if H₂O is so great why isn’t there H₂O₂ 1 week ago:
why isn’t there H₂O₂
Because the undergrads used it for acetone peroxide.
- Comment on the wolves inside me 1 week ago:
More like both talking at the same time. In a huge cacophony.
- Comment on be gay, do computers 1 week ago:
I don’t go so far. Only my pets get a surname, and it’s the family’s surname. (Some of the household appliances have kind of melodramatic names though, specially if they break often. Like Solineuza, the washing machine.)
- Comment on 1 week ago:
This, too: if E = hc/λ and E = mc², then we can combine both as hc/λ = mc². Rearranging this shit you get m = h/λc. Since h/c = 2.2*10⁻⁴²kg*m, you’d get:
Photon colour wavelength (in nm) “Weight” (in 10⁻³⁶kg = 10⁻³qg) red 650 3.4 yellow 600 3.7 green 550 4.0 blue 450 4.9 …BLOODY ULTRAVIOLET IS MAKING ME FAT!
- Comment on 1 week ago:
You certainly know it, but sharing it for the ones who don’t:
The full equation is
E² = (pc)² + (m₀c²)²where E, p, c, m₀ are respectively: energy, momentum, the speed of light, inertial mass. The(pc)²part is kind of a big deal, because otherwise massless particles (like photons) would have no energy.If p = 0, then the equation simplifies into that famous E=mc².
- Comment on be gay, do computers 1 week ago:
I named* my first self-built computer after him! Does this make that machine gay? They put chemicals in the bytes that turn the friggin’ hardware gay!
*call me a weirdo but I do often name stuff like household appliances and my trees.
- Comment on the wolves inside me 1 week ago:
If you try to trick Laziness, then Hyperactivity eats your face. And vice versa. They claim dibs on fucking with each other around.
- Comment on the wolves inside me 1 week ago:
I have two chimps inside me. They keep flinging shit at each other. And then devour the faces of whoever comes close to them.
- Comment on cursed knowledge 1 week ago:
Mine either. But I did the mistake of websearching them:
- roach bin - apparently some people breed cockroaches as pets, or to feed their actual pets with.
- dermestid beetle aka carpet beetle - they’re so notorious for feasting on dead bodies that forensics uses their presence/development to estimate date of death.
- pap smear - secretion from the cervix, used to check for cancer.
