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When life gives ya lemons.

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In a more general way, other creatures don’t experience taste the same way we do.

    Bird poop is really nutritious to seeds. It makes sense for those plants to be eaten by birds (with the seed passing through the digestive tract untouched), but avoid other creatures.

    Enter capcasin. Mammals find it intolerable (except for one subset of a goofy bipedal species), but birds love that shit.

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    • CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Looking at that pepper while this musical sting plays

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    • piccolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Enter capcasin. Mammals find it intolerable (except for one subset of a goofy bipedal species), but birds love that shit.

      I know someone with a dog that loves jalapenos. So its not just us.

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      • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        A friend of mine has a dog who likes to chew on large landscaping rocks. The vet said to put hot sauce on the ones in the yard. Dog was like “OMG, you SEASONED them for ME???” cromch cromch cromch

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also birds fly, meaning they tend to disperse the seeds further

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    • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tree Shrews also seem to enjoy it. Though they have a genetic mutation that makes them less sensitive to capcasin.

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  • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • reev@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We’re all so fucking sick of our lemons! Yeah they got so sour, please take them away. No it ain’t too much to be wishing for better, cause I’d sooner dry right up than make lemonade from this.

      Source: Lemonade - Fox Stevenson

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  • Hackworth@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Where’s the lime?

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      • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In the coconut.

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      • Hackworth@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Good catch, edited the comment to include limes.

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      • blackbrook@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lemon x mexican (key) lime

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      shout-out to pomelo, fucking og i never even heard of, responsible for two of my favorite fruits

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      • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I always thought pomelo was some kind of over bred accident that was trying to be passed off as gourmet citrus with its two inch thick pith and its disappointing flavor. I suppose it gets a pass as it’s an actual naturally occurring fruit.

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      • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As far as I remember, it tastes like a slightly sour lemon.

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      • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        rape fruit? 😱

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    • Mexigore@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did you make this?

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      • Hackworth@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nah, it’s from wikipedia.

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  • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Evolution by artificial selection is still evolution.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, they should’ve have specified natural evolution.

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    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not even selection, though.

      We grafted those citruses into existence.

      They’re delicious Frankenstein style abominations unto nature.

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    • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What even is “natural”? Aren’t humans part of nature? If a wolf kills all white rabbits and rabbits become black thats natural selection, but if a human chooses which animals/plants get to reproduce it isn’t? I say its still natural, as is climate change and any other thing human made. (Which doesn’t mean it is good and we should continue doing it)

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is different if it is a passive or active process though. The initial question is, in how far lemons benefit from this evolved trait. The benefits might be very different between passive or active evolution here. If it were passive, lemon plants might benefit by avoiding some disadvantageous animal species feeding on them. As it is active though, the benefit is that they are grown more by humans. The feedback loop between evolution and trait selection is very different if it is active or passive I’d say.

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  • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was today years old when I realised that “When life gives you lemons” might be a metaphor for bitter/sour situations you experience but are outaide your own control…

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What did you think the expression meant?

      Like if life gives you oranges, make orange juice, just because that’s what it’s made with?

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      • vritrahan@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes

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      • hex@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah i always just took it for granted too

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  • MTK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, not all animals experience sour taste in the same way. For example rats actually love eating lemons! There are literally guides online on how to stop them!

    pestcontrolweekly.net/how-to-stop-rats-from-eatin…

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      you don’t even need to resort to other animals, lots of humans are fucked and will happily suck on a lemon wedge with 0 indication that it’s remotely sour

      like, i enjoy sour stuff, but if i touch my tongue to a raw lemon my entire face inverts

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    • Tomassci@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same goes for chilli peppers, which aren’t hot for birds, since their receptors are incompatible

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      • MTK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Cool Thing about that is that the theory is that it was selected for exactly to ward off non birds so that only birds eat it and the seeds go further!

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  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This just vindicates my long time thought: people make their own problems.

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    • lars@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When life gives you people

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Completing the circle with le citron de Menton, that is mild and sweet enough to be eaten raw with the peel. bbc.com/…/20220328-the-return-of-frances-lost-men…

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So then why are citrons sour?

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wonder if that isn’t a protection against mould reaching the seeds.

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  • winkly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When life gives you sour fruit, make better sour fruits!

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  • CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “LEMONS?!”
    🫢 humpf
    😮💦🍋 phaaa

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  • shmanio@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For the 40k fans: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNEzD5n6SAs

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  • anubis119@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When life gives you lemons, take credit.

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It was the scientists all along!

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Life didn’t give me lemons, my goddamn ancestors did

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  • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My understanding is lemons are a hybrid that arose without human intervention. Their persistence is because of humans intervention.

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This exemplifies everything that’s wrong with our species.

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  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    According to Wikipedia lemons have been around for about 2000 to 3000 years old.

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  • 58008@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When we give life lemons, what is life meant to do?

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