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How to clean a rescued pigeon
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 months ago
RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 7 months ago
Just a few more billion dollars .
We’re so close!
tabris@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Just a bit more rainforest, no one will notice.
datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 7 months ago
IIRC you need double the compute for 10% improvement in a model and they’ve already computed quite a bit.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Do the search yourself you’ll see that you get a better answer.
Question: How to clean a rescued pidgeon
ChatGPT Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you:
- Assess the Pigeon’s Condition Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it’s best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it. Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.
- Prepare the Cleaning Area Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold. Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals. Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.
- Handling the Pigeon Safely Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird. Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.
- Cleaning the Pigeon Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible. Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently. Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.
- Rinsing Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water. Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.
- Drying the Pigeon Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers. Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.
- Post-Cleaning Care Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath. Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest. Additional Tips Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird’s sensitive skin and feathers. Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon’s feathers. If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.
pyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
it’s still a crapshoot and therefore useless.
babybus@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
But Google doesn’t use chatgpt.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Unsurprising that GPT is better given that OpenAI has been working on it and training it for ages and the MS partnership made every other big boy feel the need to rush some garbage model to market
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
I like the idea that these are scientist-monitored birds that you remove the tag from before dressing and eating.
Gork@lemm.ee 7 months ago
It would make an interesting footnote in the scientific article that had this pigeon in the experiment.
“1 This pigeon was removed from the experiment as it was eaten by a local Florida Man.”
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
“Subject study terminated due to invasive anthropomorphic predator.”
rockstarmode@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This actually happens very frequently. When hunters harvest a bird they report their kills in compliance with hunting regulations. If any of your birds have leg or neck bands you report that information as well. The bands have a tracking number on them, and scientists use them to monitor populations and migration patterns. It’s literally part of their plan.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This is a perfectly logical answer to a hunter.
chetradley@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“Remove the label”
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This guy still thinks birds are real.
Frostbeard@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The bad hunter who misses all the shots and buys the fowl in the market
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You don’t want those wildlife conservationists trackimg things back to you later on.
Godric@lemmy.world 7 months ago
One can assume that said AI is a confused moron, or that poaching is a legal crime, not a moral one XD
UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Got this result today
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Technically, it’s not wrong.
It’s also not helpful, but it’s not wrong.
Jumi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But isn’t it wrong? I don’t think something coming next can be already in the past or am I wrong?
howrar@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
It is wrong because the highlighted portion of the excerpt is supposed to directly answer the question. This one doesn’t.
toddestan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s not actually wrong, but it certainly didn’t answer the actual question.
MenacingPerson@lemm.ee 7 months ago
What if they asked the question during the day, then it would be correct
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m going to build a bunch of cyborgs, who follow orders exclusively via googleAI.
I figure once I release about 4 billion of them into the world, either google stops doing evil shit, or they do REALLY evil shit. We shall see what happens…
mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
It is kind of an Interesting idea: what does “statistical average morality” look like when it’s got a 3m tall power frame and a handheld howitzer?
ikidd@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If you asked me to clean a bird, this is exactly what I would think of. Though usually it involves removing lead shot, not labels.
Qwazpoi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think it took note of it being about rescue pigeons and assumed they would have a tag on them and then gave cooking directions for them
Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That is the culinary answer for the question.
Stomata@buddyverse.one 7 months ago
Is it telling steps to cook it
Etterra@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Well yeah, you have to clean it first.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Pigeon = edible bird
Cleaning a bird > preparing a bird after killing it (hunting term)
AI figured the “rescued” part was either a mistake or that the person wanted to eat a bird they rescued
If you make a research for “how to clean a dirty bird” you give it better context
DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
The context is clear to a human. If an LLM is giving advice to everybody who asks a question in Google, it needs to do a much better job at giving responses or its being irresponsibly offered by Google.
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Nah, the ai did a great job. People need to assume murder/hunting is the default more often.
HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Or, hear me out, there was NO figuring of any kind, just some magic LLM autocomplete bullshit. How hard is this to understand?
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 months ago
You say this like human “figuring” isn’t some “autocomplete bullshit”.
FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I like how you’re making excuses for something that it is very clear on context. I thought AI was great at picking up context?
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I don’t think they are really “making excuses”, just explaining how the search came up with those steps, which what the OP is so confused about.
lunarul@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I thought AI was great at picking up context?
I don’t know why you thought that. LLMs split your question into separate words and assigns scores to those words, then looks up answers relevant to those words. It has no idea of how those words are relevant to each other. That’s why LLMs couldn’t answer how many "r"s are in “strawberry”. They assigned the word “strawberry” a lower relevancy score in that question. The word “rescue” is probably treated the same way here.
superkret@feddit.org 7 months ago
“You’re holding it wrong”
huginn@feddit.it 7 months ago
Let me take the tag off my bird then snap it’s wings back together
jaybone@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But it said pigeons are usually clean.
bluewing@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Bought in a grocery store - see squab - they are usually clean and prepped for cooking. So while the de-boning instructions were not good, the AI wasn’t technically wrong.
But while a human can make the same mistake and many here just assume the question was about how to wash a rescued pigeon - maybe that’s not the original intent - what human can do that AI cannot is to ask for clarification to the original question and intent of the question. We do this kind of thing every day.
At the very best, AI can only supply multiple different answers if a poorly worded question is asked or it misunderstands something in the original question, (they seem to be very bad at even that or simply can’t do it at all). And we would need to be able to choose the correct answer from several provided.
Vespair@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Fun time to remind everyone that pigeons aren’t native to the Americas, and were brought over originally by the French primarily as a food source (although also as messengers; carrier pigeons).
“Squab” on a menu is pigeon.
AlexDrago@ani.social 7 months ago
Pigeons are drones (confirmed)
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean, if they were actually “clean” and had a healthy diet compared to what they eat in urban areas, they could make an awesome protein source for the budget minded.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not they could. They do. You can buy squab in restaurants. Maybe stores but none I’ve seen.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Though, you wouldn’t want to eat one you “recovered” from an urban area that’s had an unknown diet due to all the toxins it may have accumulated in its body.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 7 months ago
You theoretically could, but small birds like that have very little meat on their bones. Most hunt duck or turkey for a reason, the bigger birds have more meat.
FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You eat breasts.
Most people I know who hunt pigeons just take the breasts (“breasting pigeon”) and bin the rest as it is not worth a hassle. Unlike turkey, you obviously need more than one pigeon for a meal unless you use it as a starter.
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt. They need to pull the plug on this shit and stop beta testing misinformation.
leadore@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“snap to join” Ah, now it makes sense.
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 months ago
Rescued and into the oven🤦
theneverfox@pawb.social 7 months ago
I find it hilarious that my personal AI, that can run on even a budget gaming PC, is far more reliable than most of these corporate ones 100x the size
madjo@feddit.nl 7 months ago
Perplexity fairs a bit better:
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 months ago
Be more specific with the question.
“How do I wash a pigeon”
Matriks404@lemmy.world 7 months ago
How do you get these AI an answers anyway?
sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Google may not have enabled them in your region. Here in the UK they just appeared for me one day, a few months after I initially saw screenshots of them online. I didn’t do anything to enable them.
FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Beware folks, Ai WiLl TaKE yEr JoOOoObS
Thorry84@feddit.nl 7 months ago
AI will take jobs when the shareholders think it will make them more money. This has very little if not nothing to do with how good said AI is at the job.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Good. Hopefully the stock market will die before humanity does. A company with the only goal to make money, is not sustainable.
Mesophar@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Eventually, it will. Because even with janky responses like that one, corporations will try to cost save everywhere they can. Is AI at the point where it will happen this year? Hell no! But don’t think it isn’t the direction they are trying to take it.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Don’t worry y’all AI will take r jerbs
plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
For few years now I want to try eating pigeon so this answer might be useful for me.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Just did the same question. Answer given to me was vastly different:
Me:
How to clean a rescued pidgeon
ChatGPT:
Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you:
1. Assess the Pigeon’s Condition
- Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it’s best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it.
- Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.
2. Prepare the Cleaning Area
- Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold.
- Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals.
- Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.
3. Handling the Pigeon Safely
- Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird.
- Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.
4. Cleaning the Pigeon
- Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible.
- Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently.
- Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.
5. Rinsing
- Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water.
- Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.
6. Drying the Pigeon
- Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers.
- Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.
7. Post-Cleaning Care
- Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath.
- Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest.
Additional Tips
- Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird’s sensitive skin and feathers.
- Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon’s feathers.
If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.
PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Looks like ChatGPT trained their models better, probably before sites could take measures to prevent that. Gemini however was thrown together by throwing money and people at the problem in order to catch up and not be left behind. Which from what I’ve read seems to be their biggest fear.
My Pixel 9 has AI everywhere but I certainly wouldn’t pay the price they want to continue “using” Gemini after my trial.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Public free chatbots go up and down. Until recently I was finding Microsoft copilot to give the best answers. But they downgraded it recently, probably to much cost to keep it at that level, and now I’m finding openAI direct website to give best results… for now.
I just hope for a good enough self hosted model to be available before all the comercial ones shut up over a paywall/adwall for good (which is definitely coming sooner than later).
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Meh, pretty easy mistake of context.
jj4211@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean, not one a human would ever make.
First off, the word “rescued” would have immediately made the context of “protect the pigeon” clear.
Second, a “rescued pigeon” wouldn’t have a label on it, so it’s clearly mixing in something from likely a store bought turkey, but then the other steps don’t make sense either as those don’t apply either.
A traditional search approach would not have made the mistake either. It would either have failed to find anything or found actual on topic results. It’s “clever” enough to genericize “pigeon” to “birds” and hit upon text related to birds from a grocery store and birds that you hunted and mix all that together in a coherent language but with content that is nonsense.
In this case, hilarious, in other day to day situations, it’s maddening, as some professional colleague gets the same sort of nonsense but lacks knowledge to correct it and relays it as fact. Then when called out on the data was in fact so bad it wasted time, they just say ‘oh, lol, AI’ (they wanted to take credit for it if it worked, but can hide behind AI when it doesn’t).
FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They taste a lot like beef.
You take the breasts and fry them on olive oil with a little bit of garlic and soy sauce. Delicious.
TheRisingApe@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
Bro, do you even squab?
Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Free range pigeon quality
Katana314@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I wanted to clean the toothpaste off him, but as soon as he saw me reading these instructions, he flew away. Thanks, Obama.
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 7 months ago
lol, definitely missed some important context.
I guess it thought OOP meant “clean” as in how do you dress the bird before you cook it. (As in: “clean a fish” means to filet a fish and prep it for cooking.)
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I rarely remove the label from the fish I catch.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Well obviously not for fish. Sounds like someone’s never bought fresh pigeons from the grocery store, smh.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s actually illegal to cut those off.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Nobody ask it how to dress a baby
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Vegtables, garlic, basted with pan drippings.
Side of potatoes.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Swiftly
bluewing@lemm.ee 7 months ago
First you snap a shoulder socket…
huginn@feddit.it 7 months ago
Even then those are bad cleaning instructions…
jaybone@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But first it said they are usually clean. So that can’t be the context. If there was a context. But there is no context because AI is fucking stupid and all these c-suite assholes pushing it like their last bowel movement will be eating crow off of their golden parakeet about two years from now when all this nonsense finally goes away and the new shiny thing is flashing around.
jj4211@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There are signs of three distinct interpretations in the result:
It’s actually a pretty good illustration of how AI assembles “information shaped text” and how smooth it can look and yet how dumb it can be about it. Unfortunately advocates will just say “I can’t get this specific thing wrong when I ask it or another LLM, so there’s no problem”, even as it gets other stuff wrong. It’s weird as you better be able to second guess the result, meaning you can never be confident in an answer you didn’t already know, but when that’s the case, it’s not that great for factual stuff.
For “doesn’t matter” content, it may do fine (generated alternatives to stock photography, silly meme pictures, random prattle from background NPCs in a game), but for “stuff that maters”, Generative AI is frequently more of a headache than a help.
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 7 months ago
A: Just rescued a bird B: Oh, can I see it? A: Sorry, already ate it yesterday
Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 months ago
It literally doesn’t matter. When the most-used search engine on the planet automatically suggests these specific actions without you even clicking on a specific site? We’re fucked. We had the chance to break up monopolies like Google, Microsoft and Facebook. We didn’t take it…
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
No WE never had this option.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop apologizing for AI, you clown.
Do you remove the “label” in step one of cleaning a fish? Please, tell us all where that is.
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 7 months ago
Wut?