No tux no bux
Epic Games unveils Launcher V2 in re-attempt to topple Steam, says redesigned storefront is up to 6.5x faster — promises player profiles, user reviews, universal controller support, and much more
Submitted 11 hours ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
User reviews, huh? That only took, what, 7 years?
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 hours ago
It was never about any of that. It’s that Valve is a trustworthy company so far and epic is not. The only way at this point I would buy from epic store is if they offered DRM free copies.
Feyd@programming.dev 11 hours ago
I’m sure it’s about that for some people, but yeah if they ever actually get significant market share they will enshittify so fast it’ll make your head spin. The only thing that has changed is they’ve decided they need to make a bare minimum experience instead of just throwing money around.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 hours ago
That’s why I said DRM free, because I don’t trust them, so I would only buy something if I could take it and use it away from their store forever.
warmaster@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Fuck Tim. He’s the reverse-GabeN. NebaG ? 🤣
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Replace ‘buy’ with ‘download for free’ and ‘launcher’ with ‘unnecessary software after the download completes’, and they might get my attention.
I wasn’t swayed by their ‘free’ games that require their software. I wasn’t swayed when they bought up exclusivity contracts (yarr!). I’m sure as fuck not going to be swayed by the software having the absolute bare-minimum feature set.
LemmyTellYou@lemmy.cafe 1 hour ago
With Discord losing some popularity recently, I think the best thing they could do is create some sort of hybrid platform with connected apps (ie your profile also having a snapshot of Steam, PSN, Bnet, Microsoft etc)
Maybe even partner with more niche games/companies
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
And Linux support right?
Right?
seathru@quokk.au 9 hours ago
If anything this will likely break support with Lutris, Heroic, and others so they can force you to run their client.
RogueBanana@piefed.zip 9 hours ago
Isn’t legendary using the APIs directly? It could affected by minor changes I suppose but hopefully that can be updated. Not sure if Lutris uses legendary but heroic does.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Maybe support for Linux is part of the new redesign. I mean they want to or already have hired someone to champion Linux Anti-cheat support, directly by Epic. Maybe there is hope.
tal@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
Steam: Good featureset, good Linux support, large library, probably going to be around in 10 years.
GOG: Offline installers, some explicitly DRM-free stuff.
What does Epic bring to the table?
timochka@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
If it brought a big picture mode with controller navigation that wasn’t irretrievably broken, that would be an improvement.
Steam’s website design generally is so bad, and when you then add big-picture and controller it’s “I can’t believe it’s not a teenager’s first web project” bad.
Stram has a lot going for it, but don’t pretend it’s perfect.
DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Oh man, their website… Its so slow and not interactive. Every click is a full page reload… What is this, 2007?
slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Needs more invasive AI features
LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 5 hours ago
I actually don’t care in the slightest about play profiles, reviews, etc. Most of Steam is just useless bloat to me. The problem with Epic is how damn laggy it is.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I hope it doesn‘t break Heroic launcher somehow.
imjustjealous@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Oh it probably will.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 34 minutes ago
That’s probably the point.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
- I lose access to the email I’ve had since 1997.
I try to reset my login credentials. The website is caught in a loop. I open a tech support issue explaining that I just need to change my email.
I get sent an automated reply being told email changes use the automated system…the one caught in the loop.
I post a reply to my ticket saying I can’t use the automated system. It’s stuck in a loop.
I get sent an automated reply being told to use the automated system.
I search google for an 800 number. I find there is no 800 number.
2026 I still haven’t changed my email address. I also haven’t bought a single game. I claim the free ones, snd I can still log in for now. But I just know eventually it’ll say something like “For security purposes we’ve emailed you a code” snd that email will go to my lost email address. And I will have lost the whole account. So I’m not spending money on games I could lose next week.
So Epic, you want sales? Step 1, let me change my login email.
Step 2…well, you’re still fucked. Steam is a juggernaut in their space.
But at least you gained 1 potential customer. Though lets be real.this 3 year wait has left a pretty bad taste im my mouth. I’m not sure if regaining my account would prompt me to buy from a company making me wait this long.
If it exists on GOG or Steam, I can’t imagine wanting it on Epic.
LostWanderer@fedia.io 9 hours ago
LOL After all this time, now they decide to finally compete?! Tom Sweeney is a creep and a weirdo, I'm never going to buy anything from the platform. As a Linux gamer, I don't have a strong interest in Epic at all. I deleted my Epic Games account about nearly two years ago because their service was garbage and I prefer to use Heroic Games Launcher to connect to GOG.
FirmDistribution@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
No official trailers or screenshots? Seems like it was leaked instead of unveiled by Epic themselves.
I’d like to see at least a video showing how the new interface works.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I’ve been rapidly barrelling toward a DRM-free-only self-hosted future, and part of that is DRM-free books. In an attempt to get out of Amazon’s clutches, I looked for where I can buy DRM-free books, like Project Hail Mary. The answer I came up with was: nowhere. Everyone is following the same playbook. Why would I buy from your store if you’re doing exactly what Amazon is doing? I’m already shopping on Amazon, and I want something better.
(The answer is that I can break the DRM on other stores, but I can’t on Amazon. When it’s this difficult to get DRM-free books, I wouldn’t blame people for resorting to piracy.)
Why on earth would I buy from Epic if I have any other option? What are you doing better?
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Yeah, GOG is at least offering DRM-free games. That gives them one big plus over Steam.
I can’t name a single thing Epic does better than Steam or GOG. (and no, free games doesn’t count once you start asking me for money when I don’t trust you)
master94ga@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Free games
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Many games are DRM free on Steam too. Cyberpunk 2077 for example. The Steam DRM is at the publisher/developer’s discretion, not Steam’s.
Steam DRM itself is trivially bypassed which is surely intended.
LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 5 hours ago
FWIW a lot of games on Steam are also entirely DRM-free it’s just not overly obvious without checking on PCGamingWiki.
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’ve only been getting comics from bundle sites since they give you epubs and PDFs. Kind of a necessity for a non-Amazon eReader.
I appreciate my Kobo eReader though, and it’s possible their online store will be DRM-free? Or, it could be per-book; when I put my own up, they had a checkbox to turn on DRM which I left off.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 55 minutes ago
Kobo is where I ended up buying from, because I can break the DRM there, but it wasn’t trivial to figure out.
Linktank@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Classic case of too little, too late.
Get fucked Epic. Get epically fucked.
gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io 9 hours ago
All are expected to debut in the next 12 months.
Wouldn't want to rush these things. Absolute clowns lol.
Nightsoul@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Imagine what the epic store would look like if instead of spending all that time and money suing stream, they used it on their launcher
MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Lol guess its nearly time to watch another epic dumpster fire.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
For as much as people like Steam, their storefront and app is a pile of simultaneously over and under engineered shit.
So I don’t think this will really accomplish much for Epic.
almost1337@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
I’m a little surprised they didn’t wait until after all of the Valve monopoly suits to play out first, as if this is successful it will just undercut the argument against Valve.
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
If it’s successful it might under cut the claims against Valve but they can just claim the press from the lawsuit helped break the monopoly – and besides the lawsuit was just for PR and to try to get Valve to break financially. It was always a longshot that it’d do anything else. If it’s unsuccessful, however, it can be blamed entirely on Valve and can be used to get the lawsuit to actually do something as “look we implemented everything Steam did and didn’t get any more market share.”
But Epic kinda doesn’t have a choice. They’re bleeding money, Fortnite is waning, they have no popular properties on the horizon, they’re hard into AI for customer service and moderation which is only getting more expensive, and they keep doing the sweetheart deals to devs for their game giveaways which haven’t really brought any paying users to the platform.
It’s either attempt feature parity or start cutting the consumer facing part of the business, and for one of the industry’s oldest and most prominent players that’s really not a choice they want to make.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
They still don’t have user reviews? What a joke of a store.
Anyway, time to get my weekly freebiea
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
It’s claiming to be 6 times faster, and then it’ll turn out to be an Electron app.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope otherwise…