Did I enjoy the Insomniac Spider-Man games on Steam? Yes
Will I buy a playstation to play future installments? No, I’ll just go watch a letsplay or story summary on youtube if you dont want my money
PlayStation boss says single-player games won’t come to PC going forward | VGC
Submitted 1 day ago by commander@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
Comments
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Oh well, still not buying a PS.
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 1 day ago
Sony: but line go up (line turns out to be steam deck sales numbers) Sony: not like that
BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Lol, sure. Voluntarily alienate an ever-growing chunk of your customers. See how that goes for ya.
ISOmorph@feddit.org 1 day ago
I can almost guarantee you that dude has a board or shareholders or whatever, breathing down his neck, and his yearly bonus is depending on the number of units sold. So he will canibalize the whole system with a complete disregard for the long term effects, so long as the magic number goes up and he can cash in his bonus.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You just described all business in the modern day.
Nexyte@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Exactly why Valve doesnt want any shareholders
Soulphite@reddthat.com 1 day ago
This is exactly the reason the saying “they don’t make them like they used to” is a thing for everything.
formergijoe@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
A $670 buy-in for one single player game? No thanks.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Oh no…
Please. Please don’t make me address my 300 game backlog on Steam.
I’m a PC gamer so I don’t have to deal with console bullshit. Been working out great for me since 1998.
Jumi@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
Pff, backlog… I’m rotating between the same 10-15 games for years now.
flameleaf@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Only 300?
Some of the games in my backlog came out in 1998.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh no, all 3 games.
AuginTuga34@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
¯_(ツ)_/¯
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
I’m just starting to play Subnautica. That’s how bad my backlog is. I think I will be fine.
Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 18 minutes ago
I literally just started playing Subnautica for the first time last night as well after owning it for about 4 years.
HuePony@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Don’t buy second one, it has slavery EULA
Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
I was actually going to, pls give a rundown of the eula
superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
They will come crawling back after the current moron in charge gets fired. Until then, its like 4 games.
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Exactly! They’ll cut jobs and trim the fat until they run out of half-assed, short-term methods of increasing quarterly profits year over year. Then they’ll remember PC gamers are almost exclusively adults and some of those adults have deep pockets and no interest in the closed ecosystems that consoles provide.
Just watch.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Fired? You mean given progressively larger bonuses until he’s poached by a completely different moronic public company just to repeat the same cycle until he dies happy, healthy, and wealthy beyond measure?
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 day ago
Lol they will not. The next Xbox is literally going to be a PC with a full Windows OS. Sony is not going to become Xbox and give people no reason to stay in their ecosystem.
They also sold 98 million ps5s. All the delulus in this thread acting like their money matters when it doesn’t. Most of the Sony games sold poorly on steam.
People will 100% buy the ps6. I’m not missing out on more horizon, gow, or tlou.
Hardcore PC players on Reddit/Lemmy just keep proving they’re completely detached from normie reality.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
As of the end of the second quarter of last year, the PS5 was apparently just behind the PS4 in terms of lifetime sales, 84.2 million to the PS4’s 86 million at that same point in the PS4’s sales.
However, going into and during the November/December holiday season, sales dropped off compared to last year - selling 1.5 million units less during the last fiscal quarter compared to 2024.
So overall, the PS5 seems to be in a pretty healthy spot, having sold more units so far than the PS3 did in its “lifetime”, but it has not done as well as Sony wants it to. It hasn’t sold as well as the PS4, and definitely hasn’t outsold it. And if the downward year over year sales trend continues, Sony will find themselves in hot water. With the economic downturn, sales of everything will continue to suffer, and I think something that will hurt the PS5 (and PS6) that a lot of console players don’t think about is that PC gamers tend to also own at least 1 console. Many PC gamers owned a PS4 and a PS3 as well. But, with money becoming an issue, they’re not going to drop their PC for a console. They’ll drop the console for the PC they already own and accept that they’ll miss out on the exclusives. And Sony already had issues with people not replacing their PS4s with a PS5. For years people simply weren’t doing it. So far there are only about 8 PS5 exclusive games that aren’t also out on PS4 or were timed exclusives that are on PC as well. And we’re 5 years into the PS5’s lifetime, which is usually a decade at most for console generations. That’s not a lot of incentive to entice people to give up their money for a PS5 for. Why buy a PS5 for 8 games when I have the entirety of my Steam library going back to 2007? Plus, PC has its own exclusives. Practically an entire industry of them. The sheer volume of indie games exclusive to the PC means that you could play a new game everyday for the rest of your life and never spend a single cent on any AAA studio.
One thing that you’re missing is why Sony games sold “poorly” on the PC, and that comes down to the port quality, the delay between console and PC release, and the price. Many Sony releases had/still have performance issues. And there was the PlayStation account drama, which probably hurt sales. Add to that that it’s at least an additional year before a Sony game comes out on Steam, and then they charge full console price. Is it any surprise why they “sell poorly”? PC gamers have already had to wait a year or more for the game, they might as well wait for a sale for it to be at a reasonable price. But look at a game like Helldivers 2. The PC makes up a major portion of the player base. There’s a reason that Sony said “single player” games, not all games. Games sell on the PC. PC gamers just aren’t willing to accept the quality for the price that Sony was offering for their tentpole games. If we base the size of the market on the total number of games downloaded last year, the PC makes up almost half of the PC/console market: 857 million downloads vs 626 million on Sony consoles, and 546 million on Xbox, for a combined roughly 2 billion total games downloaded in 2025. The PC market is no drop in the bucket by console terms. We won’t talk about the 52 billion mobile games downloaded last year.
Sony will try again if the PC market doesn’t go in on buying a PS5/PS6 like Sony hopes, which I don’t think they will. I don’t think it will be anytime soon, but the line needs to go up. Forever. They’ll cut costs where they can and increase prices as much as their customers will let them, but eventually they’ll turn to other options, and the PC market is a low-hanging fruit tempting easy short-term gains for little effort.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
They’re not worth the effort. And better yet they just collect 8$ indie games they never play.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
If for every 7 or 8 game copies they would’ve sold on Steam for full price, one person now buys a Playstation and a single game, this move is still profitable for them.
Now all they have to do is announce like 2 decent exclusives that launch before GTA VI and they’re golden.
mlg@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I thought they were making complete bank by getting rid of their exclusives and going the open platform route (which everyone complained about)?
They did so well that Xbox became an irrelevant choice between PC and Playstation.
Plus they were doing delayed PC releases, so I don’t really see how that would affect PS sales since the port would come out much later.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It’s Sony. The various divisions never know what each other is doing and the moment a new executive comes in, they charge everything to make it seem like they’re important.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Uh, hard pill to swallow. So all my favorite Playstation games require a Playstation in the future? Like… Eeeeehm, let me check my steam account with almost 700 games… Eeeeehm… Never mind, I found none.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Yeah. I’m just so beyond good without playing games that are locked to console. I kinda thought we were over this tbh, it’s unfortunate that Sony is moving backwards.
I will say that I’m making an exception for GTA6 because, well, it’s GTA, and I’ll be able to sell the phycial copy and console when it releases on PC, it shouldn’t cost too much extra to be able to play at launch.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
With GTA5 online they have continuesly been adding more content without asking money for it (or at least, it was that, way back in the day, don’t know for sure about now, but I don’t think it changed). They only have the purchase of ingame currency. So I don’t feel ripped off with an empty bug simulator which requires a shit load of extra payments to get what I expected in the base game. So yeah, I’m buying that as well. That studio has been consistent with proper story lines and well made games, they deserve my money. Same with Larian Studio. Same as many indie game devs. If I get value for money, I’m happy to pay for it. If I pirate a game and I spend enough time playing it, I’ll buy it. Unless it consists mostly of DLC’s. If a company tries to rip me off, I’ll pirate their shit without guilt.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
With GTA5 online they have continuesly been adding more content without asking money for it (or at least, it was that, way back in the day, don’t know for sure about now, but I don’t think it changed). They only have the purchase of ingame currency. So I don’t feel ripped off with an empty bug simulator which requires a shit load of extra payments to get what I expected in the base game. So yeah, I’m buying that as well. That studio has been consistent with proper story lines and well made games, they deserve my money. Same with Larian Studio. Same as many indie game devs. If I get value for money, I’m happy to pay for it. If I pirate a game and I spend enough time playing it, I’ll buy it. Unless it consists mostly of DLC’s. If a company tries to rip me off, I’ll pirate their shit without guilt.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for them.
Tap for spoiler
Valve has made the console model irrelevant. This is Sony officially giving up on the gaming market.
Datz@szmer.info 1 day ago
Valve still hasn’t figured out physical copies and reselling.
But then, maybe they eventually will, or Sony and Nintendo give up on physicals (as they seem to want to)
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Both companies are leaning hard on digital only sales. Between the standard PS5 shipping without a disc drive and Switch 2 cartridges being little more than download keys the physical retail market is in its last dying gasps. Steam handily has both companies beat in terms of game catalog availability and affordability. A few console exclusives might be enough to maintain steady sales, but it’s an obvious trend that PC gaming is gaining dominance with third party publishers.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
nintendo is so reliant on pokemon, People are still buying the slop game freak is producing.
ICastFist@programming.dev 20 hours ago
or Sony and Nintendo give up on physicals (as they seem to want to)
Sony was already very clearly migrating in that direction since the PS4, but didn’t go all in thanks to microslop shooting itself in the foot with the Xbox 1 reveal
Auth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
PC players arent starving for games. We’re drowning in them
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Dude, the last 10 games I bought haven’t even been installed yet. Kiddo and I are still trying to wrap up other stuff.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
plus you can choose to play 1 game until you get bored of it. not so for console where you have to keep chasing the next new thing that comes along.
Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Enjoy going from going to getting some of my money to none of it, Sony.
PrinzKasper@feddit.org 1 day ago
Oh no, I’m so sad I won’t be able to play their diverse library of third person action adventure games with linear narrative and light stealth and RPG elements!
cybervseas@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“Everyone keep buying our console even though we keep raising the price. No? Fine, we’ll keep all the games just for our platform, surely that will get you to buy a PS5.”
ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
How else would they? Honest question: what do any of the video game consoles have to offer except exclusivity?
Broadfern@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Once upon a time, video game consoles offered the convenience of plug-and-play gaming, and living room comfort.
Not everyone wanted to build a PC and play with keyboard and mouse, and even still playing those PC games can be a hassle to set up on a TV if you’re common-denominator-levels of tech unsavvy. (Read: not the average Lemmy user)
Valve has brought that forward some with Steam Deck and eventually steam machine but by and large most PC gamers are Windows users.
That said, console platforms have gotten so increasingly hostile towards customers between pricing, licensing, download times and walled-garden tactics that they’ve painted themselves out of an increasing chunk of the games market.
People would rather set up a computer and a controller than buy a console, and it’s the corpo’s own fault.
teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
From a customer perspective, like 80% of the population is functionally tech-illiterate. They want to play games with the confidence that things will “just work”. They buy the console, it has everything they need for a set price, they hook it to the TV, they choose a game, everything just works, and if it doesn’t they know it’s defective and they can just return it.
From a developer perspective, the hardware is fixed, so you don’t need to consider every possible configuration of hardware, (CPU, GPU, displays, disk speed, controller, etc) windowing, OS versions, driver versions, etc. Every single one of these factors adds another dimension to testing requirements and debugging. You also get lower-level access to hardware, which allows for more granular optimizations. As a result, the console designers can put mid-range hw in it and expect devs to squeeze out performance compareable to high end PCs.
As a customer, I prefer PC, but as a dev, PC is kind of awful to deal with. So much time spent hunting down weird little corner cases that only occur in very certain circumstances.
iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 day ago
People generally buy consoles because they are very simple, plug-n-play devices. Historically, they’ve also been able to produce cutting edge graphics for cheaper than a gaming PC, and although that price gap has narrowed over time I do still think it’s true by a bit. (People like to point out that this is not true when taking into account the average price of games on console vs PC, which is completely valid, but I’m talking about the hardware alone here)
lemmyng@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Let’s raise the price of the console by hundreds of dollars just to sweeten the deal!
Indies and AA games on PC ftw.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
PC prices are also going up by hundreds of dollars. Look at what RAM and storage are doing.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 23 hours ago
And going forward, Sony won’t get my money
glitchdx@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Wasn’t planning on buying anything with sony’s name on it anyway, so whatever.
n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
All 5 of their exclusives won’t come to PC? Oh no!
Anyways.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 17 hours ago
Seriously, emulate bloodbourne and I’m good. Got plenty in the backlog anyways.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Haven’t had a Playstation since the PS2. Tried Bloodbourne for, like, 45 minutes when it was new. Still the only Playstation exclusive I want to play, barring Spiderman. But I can actually get those on PC, so.
Linktank@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Oh yes they will. You’ve just decided to stop making money on them. Fine by us.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
yup. if they can emulate the ps3’s insano-architecture they can sure as fuck figure out whatever comes next. they’re simply guaranteeing a wave of piracy instead of profiting off their already developed IPs.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 day ago
PC gamers were not making them that much money. They don’t care about us. The sales numbers Sony games on PC were abysmal.
Fine by me. Sony does make good games and I can afford a console, so I won’t mind buying one. Most of this thread is just copium.
wuffah@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Furbag@pawb.social 15 hours ago
I swear, this time I’m going to build tall and do a federation-focused, fanatic pacifist ethic! Honest!
10.5 hours later - I’m becoming the crisis whether I like it or not.
wuffah@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
After the third war of choice your vassal has launched only to be reduced back to your borders until you fly in and save them, maybe it’s better if we just ate their planets.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Egads! I’ll have to play other games. The horror! The humanity!
Oh, these indie games are actually pretty cool and much better. Maybe supporting passionate devs is better, huh?
JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
PlayStation is still making games?
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Kind of like Epic to be honest. They pay out the nose for exclusive rights, thinking shit today works like it did 20 years ago.
bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 1 day ago
That’s funny because I’m not coming to PlayStation.
I guess they just sell less then.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Love it or hate it, this is why we don’t want Xbox to fail.
Zugyuk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We don’t want any of that… What do you call it? Money? HAH!
Switorik@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
They must not like money.
Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It makes me wonder what the PC profits were for the God of war games, last of us, etc., whatever else made it over. They really blew it with the forced accounts thing, but God of War was great. I always hoped they would port the demon souls remake but I guess that’ll never happen.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
This is what happens when companies become too comfortable.
pyre@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
PlayStation at this point is like those soldiers you find deep in the woods, trying to fight the war on their own, ignorant to the news that the war ended years ago. still trying to fight the console wars in 2026.
auzy1@lemmy.world 3 minutes ago
Owned a ps5 and Xbox series x.
Sold both. Don’t miss them. Won’t miss them