DarkFuture
@DarkFuture@lemmy.world
- Comment on In the US, is this actually the moment past the point of no return? 1 day ago:
The part about our history you’re forgetting is that we never, through any of that, gleefully elected a guy that has made it abundantly clear he doesn’t give a fuck about democracy and will work to subvert or destroy it if it doesn’t suit him.
This is new territory.
And we’re about to experience the deconstruction of things that will be very difficult to build back.
Your point is that we’ve been around for a few hundred years, so we can bounce back. But history would like to point out that nations that were around much longer than us have ceased to exist many times over.
I wish I had your optimism.
- Comment on In the US, is this actually the moment past the point of no return? 1 day ago:
Rome had a final chapter.
- Comment on In the US, is this actually the moment past the point of no return? 1 day ago:
You probably don’t.
Even with a contentious subject like abortion. That’s a disagreement about a specific topic. You can reach a middle ground. It’s one of many topics to debate over and forge legislation regarding.
But the majority gleefully electing a guy that effectively looked us all straight in the face and said “I don’t give a fuck about democracy and will attempt to subvert or overthrow it if it doesn’t suit me”? Yeah, there’s really no recovering from that. At least not without a long period of serious decline and suffering, followed by lots of struggle and death to earn back what we lose.
We disrespected the shit out of our democracy and everyone that fought/died for it. There’s no way that ends well.
- Comment on In the US, is this actually the moment past the point of no return? 1 day ago:
Yes.
In my opinion we’ve already passed the point of no return and recent events have just confirmed as much.
This isn’t about having differing political opinions. A profoundly unfit, amoral criminal with a very public history of being an awful person came along and started spewing extremely dangerous rhetoric, some of which is almost verbatim to Hitler’s, and our society ate it up and made him president in 2016. This man, who leads a party who courts racists/sexists for their votes, utterly failed his tenure as president, bombing his response to the greatest American crisis since WW2 and presiding over the highest White House administration turnover rate in U.S. history. Since then he has become a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, and illegally attempted to overturn our democratic institutions by various means.
This go around the American people were presented with a choice between that person, who only managed to make himself appear even more unfit during this campaign season, openly stated he is anti-worker rights, and is directly responsible for removing women’s federally protected right to bodily autonomy, or a successful prosecutor with a doctorate in law, backed by a party that, despite misinformation, has a voting history proving they vote in favor of the average American FAR more than the opposing party…and Americans STILL managed to drop the ball and go with the CLEARLY worse choice. And when I say clearly, I’m talking about by every conceivable metric that exists in reality.
At this point it isn’t about Democrat vs Republican or Trump vs Kamala or Biden. It’s about the American people. We are not a society of intelligent voters. We have failed our responsibility as citizens in a democracy by being too lazy to learn and by allowing misinformation to mislead us and emotions to cloud our better judgement. We are not engaged in responsible involvement in our own politics. We gleefully elect people that only offer hate and fear and lies, despite how hard they try to prove how awful they are to us. And THAT is why we have passed the point of no return. If you remove the parties and the politicians out of the equation, you still have a society that fails at responsibly preserving a democracy. That gives in to hateful rhetoric and fear. That wants to get the better of the “others”.
There is no happy ending for a society like that. A society like that can only decline. This was not an election about one political ideology against another. It was an election about morality. And we categorically failed that moral test.
There are excuses. We’ve been through a lot. Lots of people are desperate. Desperate people make bad decisions. But the bottom line is we don’t live in a society with a majority of responsible adults making responsible, fact-based decisions about the most important things.
In the arc of history we may end up reaching a better place, but personally I believe we’re embarking on a decline that will most likely last the rest of our lives. It simply isn’t a problem that can be fixed short term. And we’re about to experience a sort of deconstruction. A deconstruction of norms. A deconstruction of institutions. A deconstruction of education and safety nets. And those things take a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to build back, because it’s easier to destroy than it is to create or maintain.
Buckle up. Try to find happiness where you can. It’s probably not getting better anytime soon.
- Comment on Why people consistently vote against their own interests to benefit the rich? 1 day ago:
The sooner you realize the vast majority of humans are simply not very intelligent, the more everything starts making sense. And the more depressed you will be.
- Comment on If the democrats executed the same fake electors scheme trump tried to execute, wouldn't Republican opposition be admission of trumps guilt? 1 day ago:
Doesn’t matter.
Democrats will always be held to an unattainably high standard while Republicans are held to literally none.
Trump supporters unironically walked around wearing “I’m voting for the felon” merchandise. They support criminals because they admire criminals, as long as the criminals are on their team.
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds, so they will look you straight in the eye and say a democrat is the anti-christ for attempting a fake electors scheme, despite their guy having done so himself.
None of this matters. Because Americans don’t care. Because Americans aren’t responsible democratic citizens. Which is why we’re experiencing a decline we won’t be crawling out of anytime soon.
- Comment on If media corporations worked together to convince you that a half decent politician is evil incarnate but the politician that helps corporations extort the people is good, what would it look like? 1 day ago:
Newsflash.
It just happened.
A bunch of ignorant, gullible fools were led to believe a literal convicted felon and rapist who has openly stated he is anti-worker rights, leading a party with a long history of voting against average Americans was a better option than a successful prosecutor with a doctorate in law, leading a party with a long history of voting in favor of average Americans.
We don’t need to imagine a “what if humans are stupid and easily misled” scenario. That is the reality we exist in.
- Comment on Millennials have 300% More Student Debt than Their Parents 2 days ago:
I dropped out of college to go full-time at work specifically so I wouldn’t go into student loan debt.
Great society!!!
- Comment on Can someone give me atleast 5 examples of Democrats being against the working class? 6 days ago:
Anyone who actually does their homework knows Democrats are far and away the party of the working class compared to Republicans. A quick look at their voting history proves that.
If you hear otherwise it’s either coming from liars, fools who have been deceived, or by liberals who whine about Democrats not doing enough and then abstain from voting or vote 3rd party to protest and help to elect an anti-worker president and party, which is what just happened.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
The literal ex-commander of the Gaza division doesn’t share your denialism. about Israel’s chances.
Gonna need more than the opinion of an ex-commander. I’ve heard a lot of ex-military say things. Look at Michael Flynn. Not exactly an icon of honesty and trustworthyness.
Like I said… you give white supremacism a lot of credit.
That’s because history has taught me to be very, very concerned with the capabilities of organized white supremacism.
It’s almost as if liberalism simply accepts that a bit of fascism every now and then is simply the cost of doing business.
This seems like an emotional opinion.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
The US isn’t standing in their way. Palestinians with RPG-7s are standing in their way.
If you think Palestine is going to survive for much longer, then you have an optimism I can only dream of. Even if Trump simply stands out of the way. Which is unlikely, because Donald Trump only helps those who can benefit him and Israel can benefit him. So expect more of our BOOM BOOMs to end up there in the near future.
Palestine is done.
one by one the colonialist chickens was forced to come home to roost after the failure of white supremacism
Yes, and the last time they got REAL power it took millions of lives and an unquantifiable amount of money/resources to put them back down.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
I definitely recommend getting out while you can. Move somewhere that affords you more rights and has a stronger economy.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?
Have they tried as hard as they’re trying right now? Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them, or at least entirely getting out of their way while they do it, instead of putting up some form of resistance to the idea of them wiping Palestine out?
You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don’t you?
I wouldn’t call it credit. I’d call it reading a history book and undestanding how far white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.
- Comment on "Candyman" Star Tony Todd Has Died 1 week ago:
He made me feel safe, while also making me feel uncomfortable.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
I applaud you. Have fun attempting to turn the majority of Americans into responsible, educated voters. Especially while Republicans, who now control our government in its entirety, work to dismantle our public education system, which they literally ran on doing.
Here comes that doomerism…it’s over. We had a chance, and we completely dropped the ball. You don’t have to believe me when I say we’re in for long-term decline, just remember that some guy on Lemmy told you a handful of years from now when the decline is obvious and it’s clear that there’s no end in sight.
This was a pivotal moment in U.S. history, and we failed the test.
- Comment on I keep hearing that the Democratic Party should've paid more attention to the young white American demographic. Does this mean there was a point to the "All lives matter." movement? 1 week ago:
Americans are dumb.
Democrats could have done a better job, no doubt about that. But it isn’t their fault Americans are dumb and too lazy to inform themselves responsibly. The data is all there. It’s freely available. Americans chose to vote based on feelings and allow themselves to be captured by propaganda instead of looking at the facts and they made a horribly uninformed decision.
No change in the Democrat’s strategy changes that Americans are just plain dumb.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
You’re going to enjoy a medieval monarchy
Yup. Average Americans are going to lose so much of what little power we had over the next handful of years. Hope we’re all happy we chose this for ourselves.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
Doomerism doesn’t help, but doom is what we’ve chosen.
We gleefully voted for it, in fact.
Time to suffer.
- Comment on What are the next steps for Americans to help prevent the worsening of genocide in Palestine? 1 week ago:
Lol.
Too late.
Palestine will cease to exist.
Why?
Because Donald Trump only helps those who he can directly benefit from. Palestine cannot benefit him. Israel can.
If you want to help Palestine, build a time machine, go back in time, and tell every liberal/independent fool who voted 3rd party or abstained from voting over the whole Palestine thing to do the smart thing instead.
Elections have consequences, and every last American is about to find that out the real hard way.
- Comment on Is there any, any takeaways at all from the next 4 years that's about to happen? 2 weeks ago:
But “businessman good”, right?
Lol. We’re a nation of utter failures.
- Comment on Can Trump pardon himself even though he did criminal stuff outside of office? 2 weeks ago:
Yup. The Confederacy won this time. Prepare yourself for a bleak future.
- Comment on Can Trump pardon himself even though he did criminal stuff outside of office? 2 weeks ago:
No it won’t.
The poster above had it right. The law only works if the will of the people make it work. Same applies to the Constitution.
Public schools in the bible belt have been teaching creationism and putting the ten commandments in their classrooms. Do you think the New Order we just elected are going to go out of their way to enforce the Constitution and make them stop doing things like that?
Be prepared for FLAGRANT violations of the Constitution in the coming years. I mean come on, the guy we just elected illegally attempted to overturn the last election and is a convicted felon.
It’s over. America lost.
- Comment on Can Trump pardon himself even though he did criminal stuff outside of office? 2 weeks ago:
Not only did we squarely place ourselves on the path of economic/social decline for the foreseeable future, but we also just guaranteed that Trump will not be held accountable for his crimes.
We have utterly failed as citizens in a democratic society.
Buckle up. It gets much, much worse from here.
- Comment on Is there any, any takeaways at all from the next 4 years that's about to happen? 2 weeks ago:
Trump goes full crazy and openly backs Russian expansionism.
This is exactly what will happen.
Trump’s primary trait is to only help people that serve his personal interests. Putin does that. We can kiss Ukraine goodbye (one less democracy in the world) and we will now have to worry about Russia expanding and threatening Europe.
- Comment on Is there any, any takeaways at all from the next 4 years that's about to happen? 2 weeks ago:
The decision Americans just made will have catastrophic effects on our democracy. We will, absolutely, be living with the negative effects of this decision for the remainder of our lives.
One guarantee is that we will have an ultra conservative Supreme Court for the remainder of our lives. In just the last few years an ultra conservative Supreme Court has removed women’s federally protected right to bodily autonomy and decided that presidents are above the law and cannot be held accountable for anything they do while in office. Decisions like that will now continue for the rest of our lives, slowly altering the society we live in, and most likely rendering it unrecognizable by the time we die.
Trump ran on fundamentally changing our government, including dismantling the public educational system. He plans on making an anti-vaxxer the head of the Department of Health. We know Trump only helps those who benefit him personally. That means Ukraine is gone. That means Palestine is gone (I hope the liberals and independents that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote over Palestine are happy about that one). Russia will expand their borders and threaten Europe. We will lose allies.
Trump and Elon Musk are vehemently anti-union. We will start seeing anti-union laws, weaking worker’s rights and bargaining power. Obviously we will see a continuation and expansion of the persecution of immigrants and LGBTQ+. They promised mass deportations, which will remove a ton of cheap labor from our nation, which will negatively affect our economy.
In addition to the lifelong ultra-conservative Supreme Court we will see our federal courts stacked with conservative judges who will help push through the will of the Republican party for the remainder of our lives.
We’ve all heard about the tariffs. If you thought life was expensive now, buckle up. Donald Trump has filed for bankruptcy multiple times and has a rap sheet of failed businesses a mile long. He is not a good businessman and has absolutely no idea how to run a national economy. Even before the pandemic we were seeing the negative effects he was having on our economy. All metrics showed that post-pandemic we were recovering better than any other nation. You can kiss that goodbye.
The Repbulican party historically favors the wealthy, removing roadblocks designed to keep them in check, which ends up weakening the positions of average Americans. Trump will accelerate that. Prepare to watch the wealthy become even more powerful and average Americans lose what little power we have.
The last time they wre in total control the Republican party promised to address healthcare and infrastructure. They failed to do both. The Democrat president that came before addressed healthcare. The Democrat president that came after addressed infrastructure. Do not expect the Republican party to do anything to assist the average American.
I believe a lot of Americans live under the impression that no matter how bad things get, we can hit the reset button every 4-8 years. That simply isn’t true. Even under a “normal” administration things can be set in place that are permanent, or that can only be changed through extreme effort over long periods of time. This administration promised changes to our government that cannot be undone without historically significant events, like war or revolution. They promised to change our system in such a way as to provide themselves with a permanent power shift. They attempted to overturn the last election. They’ve spoken about dealing with “the enemy within”. Their representatives do not care about science. Their ranks are filled with conspiracy theorists. We just gave the keys to the kingdom to extremists with little to no government experience.
Make no mistake about this. What we just did changed the political paradigm for the rest of our lives and set us on a path of undeniable decline based on what we already know about Trump and the Republican party’s history.
We just made a very, very large historical mistake. And we absolutely deserve the suffering that is to come, because it’s our own fault. Be prepared for very hard times for the foreseeable future. Plan accordingly.
- Comment on Is this what every election is like? 2 weeks ago:
Not even close. This was a turning point election.
This election determined that we will live with an ultra conservative Supreme Court for the rest of our lives. In just the last couple years that court has removed women’s federally protected right to bodily autonomy and determined that presidents are above the law and can’t be held accountable for anything they do while in office. Decisions like that will continue for the remainder of our lives and chip away at our nation as we once knew it.
Trump’s administration ran on making fundamental changes to our government, including deconstructing the department of education. He promised to make an anti-vaxxer the head of the department of health. Ukraine will cease to exist. Palestine will cease to exist. Russia will expand their borders and threaten Europe. America will lose allies. NATO will be weakened.
We made a criminal who failed his last term as president by every conceivable metric and illegally attempted to overturn an election the most powerful figure on the planet. He will fill all positions with unqualified toadies, just like he did last time when he had the highest White House turnover rate in US history.
What Americans just did was change the political order we will be living under for the foreseeable future. And no one will suffer more for that than your generation.
We categorically failed you and the decline we are about to experience could last a generation and the suffering is currently unquantifiable. The decision we just made will change the world we live in in a negative way we can’t fully fathom yet.
The remainder of your life just got a whole lot harder and I’m sorry. I did not vote for it to be this way.
- Comment on How do Americans win their country back? 2 weeks ago:
Realistically? It’s too late.
We now have an ultra-conservative SC for the rest of our lives. The Republican party openly stated and ran on making fundamental changes to our government if they won the House/Senate/Presidency and to “defeat the enemy within”.
It doesn’t even really matter if the suffering that is coming shocks our society into rebounding in 4 years. The locked in SC and fundamental changes to our government will have already been set in place. Government departments will be run by appointees with absolutely no experience. Entire departments could be re-staffed with partisan political appointees if we are to believe the words of some of the people Trump promised to appoint. We have been placed squarely on the path to decline. That decline won’t happen overnight, but in our lifetimes it will become undeniable. We will probably barely recognize this country by the end of our lives.
This election determined the political order we will live under for the rest of our lives.
Buy a gun. Try to find happiness within your immediate sphere. And stay safe, if you can. Very, very few people will come out on top in the scenario we now find ourselves in. Give it a few years and you’ll see. They have total control now, so there’s no one else to blame for the decline that’s essentially guaranteed to become apparent in the near future. But I’m sure if they do fail, immigrants will be at the top of the blame list.
It was a worthy experiment while it lasted.