Is anyone else not feeling that patriotic for July 4?

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨yarr@feddit.nl⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don’t feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare…

I think I’ll be staying home this year too… anyone else?

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SpicyTaint@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s been decades since I’ve cared about the 4th as an actual holiday. Now it’s just a day that I don’t have to work.

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- some_designer_dude@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Good day to march on your White House, perhaps…
  
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  - yarr@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I thought about this too. In the past I used to go to protests because I felt that if our leaders saw the protest that they might change their mind about something.
    
    Now, so many of our citizens are so insane, they think you won’t actually protest unless George Soros pays you. I also can’t picture Trump seeing a protest and saying “I think I’ll reconsider…” It feels more futile than ever.
    
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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
why celebrate independence day?

it was supposed to be about gaining independence from tyranny.

We’re back with kings and tyrants.

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BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Celebrating America hasn’t been something to be proud of since before 2001. We had a couple of high points during Obama, but nothing that tipped the scales.

I’m personally disgusted by this place, and anytime I see someone with an American flag anywhere on their person or property, I immediately assume they’re a conservative and I think lesser of them. I know that this isn’t a reality, but that is what the American flag means to me, and I assume quite a few others.

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- HasturInYellow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Absolutely like that for me. Or Christians. If I know you’re a Christian within 15 min of meeting you, we are not going to be friends.
  
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  - BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    There a very few notably religious people that I associate with. I have a coworker that was a pastor for years and is still religious. He approaches it in the way I think it should be. We discuss religion as a theory, he doesn’t push or tell people what to believe. His belief is that God has his plans and that’s between him and each person. If every religious person lived like him, I’d have a lot less issue with it. I don’t agree with many of his other beliefs that are born from his religious background, but he’s not trying to impose them on anyone or prevent anyone from living their lives.
    
    Other than him, and even still sometimes him, I agree with you. It’s like a scarlet letter that was put on volunteerily to say, “hey, I’m a dick and my beliefs are correct and apply to everyone.”
    
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- skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The people who complain the loudest about disrespecting the flag are the same people who ruined it in the first place.
  
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  - Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    Burning it in a discarded toilet next to a truck stop is less disrespectful than this.
    
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  - BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If those people didn’t have hippcrasy, they’d have nothing… Well, they’d still have racism, bigotry, and a bunch of other shitty attributes I guess.
    
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DarthKaren@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m a USAF vet. My ancestors literally fought in the revolutionary war, and signed The Declaration of Independence. I’m going through the motions this year, but I don’t feel it at all. I’m pissed that we’re multiple stages into a nazi regime. I’m profoundly flabbergasted at how anyone could be for this. How anyone that is for it, can’t see that they’re going to be the “out” party. Some already are seeing it.

I’m incredibly disappointed that the news has gotten so out of touch that they just rolled over and lapped up the rhetoric. Local news is all sunshine and rainbows while ICE kidnaps people, and a corrupt POtuS breaks the constitution left and right. While he deploys military against its own citizens. While rights are stripped, aided by a corrupt SCOTUS. While the rich get richer off of our backs. While the checks and balances are obliterated.

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  - DarthKaren@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I see where you’re at. I take no offense. I definitely could be doing more. I can’t work either, so it isn’t like I don’t have the time. Physical issues are my only real hold back. My enlistment was fear of being trapped in an abusive home, as well as feeling like high school didn’t offer enough of an education to prepare me. We both have the luxury of doing what we’re doing.
    
    However, I offer a few counter points.
    
    What does killing 1 ICE “officer” accomplish? How does that affect change in the right direction? Does this cause others to do the same and follow suit?
    
    We need more that I don’t think we’re at the point of accomplishing yet. We need a full on civil war. One that I’m not sure how we get to kick off, all at the same time, all across the nation, without it fizzling out quickly.
    
    The problem then comes in how to coordinate that. How do we communicate, nation wide, in a way that is not vulnerable to monitoring and disruption by the very place we’re trying to change? How do we coordinate arming and supplies? How do we coordinate movements and operations?
    
    We can’t stop at just POtuS either. 99% of it needs to go. Dem leadership has been largely sitting on the bloody nubs that they try to “reach across the aisle” with. SCOTUS and most all other courts are compromised. Plus the billionaires, the behind the scenes assholes, and even state and local governments. It all needs a clean sweep.
    
    We have too comfortable of a life. We’re too complacent. We were too far removed from the fascism that spilled over in Europe. We were too padded. It didn’t really hit us, in either world war, back here. Our troops came back home and went back to regular life as usual. We had a civil war, but we didn’t punish any of the perpetrators. That led us right back where we’re at. At the time though, you could survive on your own. Support a family off of the land. There wasn’t much of an infrastructure. There was no pain to be felt by the general populace (loss of life aside).
    
    I do think we’ll get to full on armed conflict. I feel as though mid terms will be the kicker. I just don’t know if armed conflict is where we’re at yet. Not that I don’t think we should be. It’s that the general populace is too comfortable. We, apparently, need our lives to hurt more. To be affected more. Is it sad? Absolutely. Is it very much against everything that the founding fathers envisioned, especially when drafting up the 2nd? Absolutely. They would be completely disgusted with all of us. Myself included.
    
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  - FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If you want to be effective at changing the system, killing random ICE Nazis won’t do it. Everyone here is advocating peaceful protest, but that also won’t do it - or at least, not by itself.
    
    Instead, consider direct action - sabotage of the means of production that prop up the fascist state.
    
    Take a listen to Rev Left’s interview with Palestine Action to learn what I’m talking about: revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/size/5/?search=…
    
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  - banshee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I find the bit about believing the lies we’re fed as somewhat naive. We’re all on a journey, and everyone starts in a different place, with unique foundations.
    
    My current opinions vary wildly from those held 20 years ago. Change is a good thing, and I think it should be expected as the norm.
    
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Dogiedog64@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, but HOW THE FUCK could I EVER be proud of this country anymore??? We’ve done nothing to deserve respect or patriotism.

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- Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  - YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Why are you attaching a person who obviously is opposed to the current administration? Like, I understand your sentiment, but this person ain’t the one.
    
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- bufalo1973@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Then maybe it’s a day to protest, not to celebrate. Maybe the best way could have been doing a full strike that stopped the country and doing also protests in the streets.
  
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some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I haven’t felt patriotic for July 4 since I was a teenager. And I grow more aliented every year.

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TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What the fuck would I have to be proud of? The US has been on a downward trend for a long time and that’s accelerating

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- VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah but before, we could eat BBQ and blow off fireworks and pretend like America is going to fix itself.
  
  Literally nobody I know is doing a cook out.
  
  We have some scheduled on July 12th.
  
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  - Jmsnwbrd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    What’s July 12th?
    
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- yarr@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I hear you and I agree
  
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RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Obama was the last president that made me believe the US was trending towards progress. He proved to be a let down on many issues but I was still hopeful that the next president will be better. On many issues the country seemed to be heading in the right direction, there was even a plan for a national high speed rail network.

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- reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  He seems to be the pinnacle of US presidents. It has only been going down since him.
  
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Allero@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
State-level patriotism is always bullshit to begin with.

That’s how you’re tricked into loyalty based on the most arbitrary reasons.

Be the messenger of humanity and get curious about the Universe. People are brothers, and there’s no pride in being born in one plot of land over the other.

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- Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If that’s your reaction we need even more murder jets to do a fly over and the already ridiculously sized freedom flags will get even bigger!
  But seriously, patriotism is an unnatural artificial and cultivated concept.
  Indeed to be used by the state.
  
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The state should be you, the citizens.
    
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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Flags have become a warning over the last decade or so about the person waving it. It no longer has the hope of a better America, solidarity, or welcome; it’s a symbol of a myopic, selfish, aggro, uneducated person full of performative nationalism and real hatreds.

Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.

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- squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.
  
  That’s what happens if you stick with a quarter-millennium old prototype of a semi-democratic system.
  
  The constitution was revolutionary and ground-breaking, a quarter millennium ago. But still running that old piece of toilet paper as the basis of a democratic system in 2025 is like driving a Ford Model T today and claiming that it still is the latest and greatest automobile ever created.
  
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  - RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I always find irony in the fact that the US helped set up better forms of government in the countries it fought in WW2, Japan and Germany, than it could make better in its own country.
    
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  - TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    In terms an American can understand: “Imagine a car…”
    
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  - villainy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This is why we have constitutional amendments. It’s been extended a good bit over the last centuries. The tools are there but nobody wants to, or can agree on how to, use them.
    
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AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I haven’t “celebrated” the fourth in nearly a decade for this reason. On top of that fireworks are pretty bad for everything and those with PTSD.

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- Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  On top of that fireworks are pretty bad for everything and those with PTSD.
  
  My coworkers dog would thank you very much as well for not shooting off fireworks. He said he usually drives out of town for a few hours until it dies down because his dog gets terrified :(
  
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  - AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah, forgot to mention pets. All of mine hate the fireworks, so it makes for a miserable time all around.
    
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  - SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    And it’s not just pets either, wildlife also gets affected by firework
    
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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Our country is under MAGA Nazis rule, and that is nothing to celebrate. Independence Day should be a Day of Resistance, until the MAGA Nazis lose their control.

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NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
As an immigrant to the US, I’ve always found the blind patriotism commonplace here to be very strange. It feels even more alienating now than ever before.

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- Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Common in an authorita
  
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devolution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ve never been more ashamed to be an American.

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- ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m a-shamed to be an A-merican, Where at least now I can’t see. And I won’t forget the libs who cried, who gave that right to me.
  
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  - devolution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Lemmy sings
    
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- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  well, at least you’ve got the knowledge that I’m proud of you for that
  
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Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Kinda interesting how you US-Americans have a certain day for being even more patriotic than the average US-patriotism rest of the time. As a German I personally haven’t felt patriotic at any point in my life and most of the people I know (probably more left-leaning than German average) always looked at your patriotism (espacially on July 4th) with a certain lack of understanding. Why even be patriotic? Why always raise the US-flag? Why are there Florida men running through hurricanes with an US-flag? And why celebrate your patriotism even more on a specific date, even as a more left-leaning person?

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- yarr@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mean, I’d think of it as like being proud of your home and the accomplishments of the country. That doesn’t seem very odd to me. It’s just that lately, I feel like as a nation we are just making so many mistakes and I feel ashamed, not proud of the country.
  
  I have no enthusiasm to raise the US flag this July 4th, excepting maybe showing it upside down as a sign of distress.
  
  When I think about the US and its future, I just get a sinking feeling and I don’t feel very happy about it. I’m ashamed how far this country has fallen in the past two decades.
  
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  - ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It hasn’t really fallen, it’s just saying the quiet part out loud for once.
    
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  - Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    proud of your home and the accomplishments of the country
    
    Don’t really understand that either. I could understand celebrating the date at which you got an united democracy, that’s certainly an accomplishment. Even that happend a quarter millennium ago, you (not even your grandmother) didn’t take part in it and nowadays there’s no British monarchy you can annoy by being a democracy, but celebrating democracy as a concept always is great. But you don’t do that. All what I see from the Atlantic Ocean’s other side is some people celebrating something which is written under “Nationality” in their passports. I personally can’t celebrate something as complex/indefinite as a country. I don’t think complex really is the best word for it, but what I mean is that countries never are only good and also “country” itself is a term so obscure and indefinite. The country existed for nearly 250 years, billions of people lived in it and some terrible stuff happend in and because of it. Wars and crimes and war crimes of leading personell, etc. Surely also some good stuff, but how to seperate that? You simply can’t. Is Ronald Reagan part of what you’re celebrating, is Donald Trump part of it? Is democracy part of it? Is some random 1800s-farmer part of it? Are people even part of it and if no why? Are the country’s borders part of it? Is the tree standing in your backyard part of it? You can’t ignore the killing of civilians in Vietnam war while including democracy or can you? What’s home? Is it your family? Your house? Both?
    
    One thing is for sure: You aren’t the country, you just live at some place on the world which happens to be territory of something named “USA”. Same for me, I have been born at some place which happens to be territory of something called “Germany”. Why should I be proud about the place where I were born? That’s no achievement, I didn’t even contribute to it. I’m proud that I managed to contribute to democracy by protesting and voting. I also felt proud about the A I got in some elementary school test. I’m really proud about switching from Windows to Arch Linux in less than 2 hours. I may some day feel proud for my children while watching them doing something great. I contributed to all of this more or less directly and I can feel proud about it for that reason. But why should I feel proud about a country? Germany is nothing I’m responsible for, the (current path of the) USA is nothing you are responsible for. If you were responsible for it, why shouldn’t I be too?
    
    We can’t feel proud about it, we can’t feel ashamed for it, because it isn’t our fault. However we can change the current situation. Changing the world, having the courage to try it, is something we can feel proud about.
    
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- FlashyWierz@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  July 4th is the day our nation was founded which is what merits the fanfare. I would also say that the “displays of patriotism” you may see are largely cherry picked examples. Your typical american doesn’t wear american flag regalia, much less own an american flag and wave it around.
  
  Right now, the reason you are seeing such a pronounced amount of patriotism for Independence day, and I use that term loosely, is due to it being both the 250th anniversary and the current unpopular administration trying to project an alternate reality where they are in tune with the will of the people and establish legitimacy.
  
  There is a lot that can probably be said about the erosion of patriotism in the US as it was co-opted by conservative groups in order to push unpopular policies throughout our nations brief span of existence and it likely ties into the destruction of our education system, but I’d rather let someone more knowledgable tackle that topic.
  
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  - Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I deliberately exaggerated, but I dont’t understand patriotism in general (see comment under OPs response on my comment).
    
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- HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The USA has never had an event to make Americans from shame for the country. It isn’t like the USA hasn’t done shameful acts, but there hasn’t been a reconging of what the country has done.
  
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- allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Most of us just like the day off from work, or the holiday pay if you have to work. and that’s where it ends.
  
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GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Havent felt proud to be an American in a long while. I’m proud of loving thy neighbor as myself, not lining the pockets of billionaires. I hate that I’m powerless to do much. Representative democracy? My ass. No one represents me. They’re all aristocrats. “it’s one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?”

I’m not bitter about it at all. /s

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tarknassus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Aww. Please celebrate - don’t give the orange turd the satisfaction of destroying yet more American culture. Also, I won’t be happy posting my favourite annual meme:

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- Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  But celebrate what? The opening of our concentration camps and the country’s fall to the stupidest dictator imaginable? I suppose we could drink to the ashes…
  
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  - endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Celebrate y’all getting together and protesting tyranny
    
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  - b34k@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ll celebrate a day I don’t have to go to work
    
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thatradomguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Why feel patriotic for a country that literally stole/claimed what wasn’t theirs to being with? Never felt such a thing for this so called “first world”.

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- OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Whose was it? At what point in history was ownership established and why was it not the previously displaced people’s instead? How long does it take to establish ownership, and what means are justified to do so? Who exactly is the United States anyway?
  
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  - skeezix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    World history for millennia has shown that the conquerors write the rules. Ownership is established immediately upon victory. It matters not if you’re a yanomamo tribe living 1000 years ago or a modern military 1st world country. The victors write the rules.
    
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EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What, exactly, should I be proud of?

A nation that is moving backwards on human rights, increasing wealth inequality, and got really “mask off” about supporting genocide. A nation that is inherently dysfunctional and wreathed in corruption.

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paperazzi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Canadian here and we celebrated the fuck out of our national holiday which just passed. We have a stronger feeling of solidarity than we’ve felt in a long time. Despite the threats of annexation and shifting tariffs, we are feeling more hopeful than we have in many years, possibly because we’re making new friends in the global sandbox and coming into our own power now instead of constantly kowtowing to the USA in all matters.

Except a few folks in Alberta who would love to be part of the modern Nazi regime. Fuck them, tho.

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- AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Personally, I’m not feeling that same vibe. I think the solidarity against the US is a very good thing, but the sheer amount of ways Canada is just “America Light” is very depressing. Its to the point that our flag has been so sullied by absolutely shit tier movements in the last 5 years that I can’t stand to see it anymore.
  
  Every time I see a private flag pole, bumper stickers or anything kind of patriotic merch my knee jerk reaction is “I bet this dude’s a fuckwad.” I know that I’m painting with a huge and shitty brush but I just can’t even fight against it anymore. I know it’s wrong. I just don’t care, and that makes me sad.
  
  I live comfortably here, but given even a minutely convenient reason to emigrate I think I’d take it.
  
  Canada is a car infested, anti-human shit hole just like America. To paraphrase Steve Harris of Iron Maiden a bit "We oil the jaws of the ~~war~~ capitalist machine and feed it with our ~~babies~~ immigrants.
  
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  - paperazzi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ve felt like that for years, too. But Canadians boycotting en masses, then soundly rejecting mini-Trump has given me hope. Since then, our leader has been reaching out to other countries to form new relationships and deals. We just signed a rare earth minerals deal with Greenland, of all places.
    
    Yes, Canada has been hamstrung by US demands but the vice-grip they’ve had over us has deteriorated. This wouldn’t have happened if not every single other country in the world was going through the same thing. So it feels a bit like a rebirth to me, with the possibility of finally being able to come into our own as a nation.
    
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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ve never felt patriotic. It’s not like I chose to be here and, frankly, the more I learned about the rest of the world, the more I dislike about my own home.

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DearMoogle@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think that’s normal considering everything going on.

By the way, I live in the CA bay area. Interestingly I went grocery shopping today and no kidding -I felt like I was in a small town in the midwest or something. It was mostly older white people shopping, like you couldn’t help but notice. I told my bf, wtf are we in Idaho or something lol this doesn’t feel like the bay area?

I think there’s a combination of people being tired of increasing inflation and burnt out by the barrage of shit going on in the news. I don’t imagine minorities, particularly immigrant families are feeling very patriotic right now. Or people are straight up worried about ICE kidnappings. Which by the way, I heard from a neighbor that ICE has been walking into the hospital she works at and waiting outside to snatch people. Terrible…

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fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Patriotism leads to nationalism and racism. Fuck patriotism.

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- Saleh@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Not necessarily. Problem is when patriotism is not defined positively through your countries achievments and striving for self improvement, but through negativity to other people.
  
  The US patriotism evidently revolves around the latter, so does most patriotism i have witnessed in European countries. I cant speak for so many other countries as i havent visited them enough.
  
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  - CXORA@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    So do any countries exhibit what you call positive patriotism, or is this purely a theoretical objection?
    
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EvilCartyen@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I imagine almost everyone who’s not American, like 96.5% of the world population.

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ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Going to be spending the 4th building guillotines in my garage

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- pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Can I help?
  
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  - ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The more the merrier
    
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MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m going out to a March on the 4th of July. We’re protesting for independence from America

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Zezzoz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Feeling patriotic towards a country of traitors.

US best values have been lost long time ago.

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foggy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I believe you’re supposed to fly a flag upside down in times of distress.

I think it would be wildly powerful for some cities to flip their flags for the 4th.

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- Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ve never had a flag out front of my house.
  
  The day that orange fucker kicks the bucket, I’m putting in a flagpole and flying that bitch at full mast.
  
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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  My shotgun’s flag is nailed upside down.
  
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Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Being a Brit, for years I’ve jokingly referred to the 4th of July as ‘Rebellion Day’ to my USian friends. Not sure I’m joking any more, just hopeful. Go on. Rebel!

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- Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Overthrow your tyrannical government, you won’t.
  
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grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m surprised there aren’t massive protests scheduled for July 4.

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- pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I believe there are
  
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