OccamsRazer

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⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:
If you don’t acknowledge the difference between war and murdering someone in cold blood without warning, then there isn’t any point continuing this conversation. Also I hope for your sake that you don’t cross paths with anyone who thinks like you do, but has different opinions.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:
Those aren’t about murdering fellow citizens because of what they say.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨A warning⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
I expect people to be able to say things without being murdered. Killing is not an appropriate response.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Dude you are sick
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Nuremberg was after the holocaust. You can’t just skip over the fact that Charlie Kirk has not instigated a holocaust, nor can you assume that he would have. That’s not even a logical fallacy, it’s simply not even true. Accusing me of a logical fallacy is rich in irony. Seriously, it’s so dumb I don’t even know what to say.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Oof. I’d say it’s too soon, but that’s clearly not the case on lemmy… But also yes that’s a fair question.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Accountability? You mean murdering people you disagree with? Explain again to me how free speech is the seed of… authoritarianism? That’s some crazy mental gymnastics. And what laws did Charlie Kirk break?
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨A warning⁩ ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
It’s more about the celebratory atmosphere after the fact, and less about the evidence in individual cases that is either not available yet or is conflicting as to what ideology (if any), the violence was motivated by. I’d say the real present danger is that a noted and high profile political figure (but not a politician), was murdered (presumably) for his views. That’s real, and not a what if.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Yeah well that’s a better example than the American revolution anyway, but I guess I view revolution against government as being a little different than murder of a citizen exercising their right to free speech. The French revolution also was fighting to establish a democracy, wherein people could freely exchange ideas and contribute to the shape of government. Democracy doesn’t work if people murder each other instead of discussing things and using your vote to shape government. Violence must be prohibited and overwhelmingly condemned or it devolves into a zero sum game. This isn’t a victory for the left, this is a loss for society, further degradation of our republic.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
They fought a war against an opposing army, not by assassinating people exercising their right to discuss opinions and ideas. In fact they fought FOR the right to have opinions and ideas and to express them. They thought it was so important to protect that right, that they put it into the bill of rights, which specifically states that the right to free speech transcends government. The government that they wanted could only exist if people could freely exchange ideas without fear of being murdered (or imprisoned) for them. That’s why its a particularly bad example.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨A warning⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Yeah i wouldn’t call him a moderate, but the political cleansing vibe to it is still pretty disturbing.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
No your example is just really really bad
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
You don’t get to just kill people that you suspect are evil. This isn’t some complicated ethical dilemma.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Since you brought it up, do you have any numbers to support that?
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
The irony of using the American revolution to justify murdering people for speaking their opinion…
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
The law protects free speech, which is the cornerstone of democracy. Answering free speech with violence is the opposite of democracy. Any society based on our allowing murdering people that you disagree with is doomed to fail.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Ideological assassinations are a huge step in the wrong direction. Once you open the door to violence in place of speech and exchange of ideas, it’s a bad place. Everyone should condemn this. Do you honestly believe it’s a good idea to start killing people? Who is next? It’s not always going to be people you disagree with, and ANY murders need to be condemned.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Not from murdering people who speak their opinions.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
You don’t have to like him, but jeez people in here are messed up. I’m a little surprised that so many people are celebrating an ideological assassination. Democracy literally cannot survive if opinions are punishable by death, and that alone should be soundly condemned.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Too soon?⁩ ⁨⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
You can’t murder your way into democracy.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why is Lemmy much better with telling a user why they were banned?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:
Pretty sure they are already among us
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨found an anti-vax book at my library⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:
If you ban books that you disagree with, you are a book banner.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨The USA prided itself on a nation of immigrant, heck even the Statue of Liberty says it. When did immigrants (US citizens from the old world) become anti immigrant and why?⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:
Once we stopped needing cheap labor to build the railroads and mine ore and occupy native lands and farm crops and roof houses and paint walls and run the cash register at the gas station. Actually we still need immigrants for some of that in order to sustain the level of growth required to fund our retirement plans and do the jobs that we would rather not do for wages that we would rather not work for. It looks like Republicans are hoping to fuel that growth internally through reproduction among existing citizens (under the theory that kids will work for lower wages), while the democrats want to rely on immigrants. That’s my theory anyway.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is anyone else not feeling that patriotic for July 4?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
Well in that case there probably isn’t a single nation ever that should be proud.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is anyone else not feeling that patriotic for July 4?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
Whose was it? At what point in history was ownership established and why was it not the previously displaced people’s instead? How long does it take to establish ownership, and what means are justified to do so? Who exactly is the United States anyway?
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨do you think freewill truly exists?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
Well that wasn’t really the question. But actually I met her when we were both pretty young so I don’t recall it being much of an issue. We probably talked about kid stuff.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨do you think freewill truly exists?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
It’s not small talk, because i actually care how my wife’s day was.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Choose a number, 1-5!⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
You don’t have to be neurodivergent to have an opinion about fork shapes. Also 2 is the best.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨It's a sin in Christianity to consume media based on ancient mythology and folklore?⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
Dude the edgelord routine is brutal
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨It's a sin in Christianity to consume media based on ancient mythology and folklore?⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:
You can’t use logic based on a belief and simultaneously write it off as mythology if you want to be logically consistent. You first assert that Christianity is mythology, but then reference Christianity itself to “prove” that people who believe in it are sinners, framing them in terms of the belief that you just asserted was false. Your whole thing is nonsensical.