I am a tankie and voting for Biden lmao. The Prolitariat must be protected till enough class conciousness is achieved for Socialism to succeed.
Stay Mad
Submitted 10 months ago by UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Grayox@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 10 months ago
THANK YOU. It’s that fkin simple.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So simple, yet so hard for so many to understand.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You sound like a rational tankie, which by the definitions that lemmies have explained to me, would make you not a tankie.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“Anyone who thinks themselves a tankie is too self aware to be one” sounds like a fallacy. (What is a tankie, btw? I’ve been too scared to ask…)
NegativeInf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And I’d vote for a corpse before I vote for 34 time Convicted Felon Donald Trump. Eat the rich. Pack the courts. Seize the assets of felonious companies.
Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Mother fucker could be Dracula for all I care. Still voting for him.
uis@lemm.ee 10 months ago
There is russian meme “voting for stool just to vote against UR”.
assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You get it! We can’t fuck over vulnerable people. We can’t abandon minorities and LGBT people. Even if we let things get worse to the point of a societal collapse, a lot of people will die because of it – and societal collapse has not historically led to better societies down the road.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s such an important point. Anyone who thinks a win by Trump will somehow speed up the advent of socialism is just deluded.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My trans friends are what keeps me committed to voting Biden no matter how disappointed I am in him. Things are already really scary for them right now and I can’t be complicit in making them worse, even through inaction.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Right? Imagine it’s a fucking Saw Trap, and there’s an easy way out without sacrificing anyone… and an equally easy way out sacrificing everyone. Make the less selfish choice.
goldenlocks@lemmy.world 10 months ago
We can’t fuck over vulnerable people.
That’s what you’re doing when voting for Dems.
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Biden is literally arming a genocide. He was even adamant about his continued support for that. Meanwhile Dems led cities have brutally beaten up peaceful colelge protests and invited fascist MAGA mobs to attack minority students there.
The DNC and Biden do not protect minorities. They are white supremacists with just a bit more moderation to the means they employ, but they will absolutely resort to authoritarian crackdowns if they feel the minorities to step out of line by demanding justice and rights.
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I can’t even imagine how awful the people who fill that vacuum would be.
null@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Most based .ml user
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Based and practicalpilled
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thank you for being a sane human 🙏
goldenlocks@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The Prolitariat must be protected
By consenting to corruption and a path to WWIII. That is not protecting them, in fact it is ensuring them a terrible future. If you cared about them, you would vote, volunteer, donate, and support the PSL, CPUSA, or Green party instead.
assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Lmao the green party isn’t going to do jack shit. They’re completely unserious about politics. They aren’t even trying to build up an infrastructure in all 50 states that lets them get suffused into local and state politics. They aren’t even aiming for Congressional seats, which would be necessary for an actual Green president to get anything done.
They’re just anti science grifters who think wifi causes cancer, entertain vaccine skepticism, and demonize nuclear energy – the latter of which could be a major asset to stopping global warming. Newer designs are even able to consume nuclear waste, meaning an anti nuclear position results in more waste than we would otherwise.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 10 months ago
None of those parties have a ghost of a chance of winning, and with as razor thin as the win margins were in 2016 and 2020, I’m not confident Biden won’t win if we don’t vote for him. I sincerely hope I do not have to explain why Trump would be worse on literally every issue (especially Gaza) than Biden is.
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is the way.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Oh my god! A tankie who’s not fucking stupid. I never thought I’d see the day.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
On one hand I’d like it if the Democrats put upsomeone more certain to beat Trump. On the other Joe has shown he supports labor and things are moving in the right direction. I’d hate it to get a neoliberal Democrat that halts this progress.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’d vote for ToS era Pike over Trump. I’d vote for a candidate who only communicates via ouija board over Trump. I’d vote to not have a president for 4 years before I’d vote for Trump.
It’s crazy that Trump can get convicted of fraud, be found liable for sexual assault, promise to abuse presidential power to get revenge against those who cross him, actively undermine both national and global security, promise to round up millions and put them into camps, attempt to overthrow the election and refuse to not try it again, and so on, and his side is still so loyal they’ll wear solidarity diapers for him.
taiyang@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m so down for ouija board prez.
Ouija board prez ‘channeling’ FDR: T-A-X-T-H-E-R-I-C-H-Goodbye
casmael@lemm.ee 10 months ago
lol
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 10 months ago
He is like a cult’s leader, they can do no wrong. People’s belief in him is unflappable.
Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 10 months ago
I’d vote for a candidate who only communicates via ouija board over Trump.
Give it a few months
jaybone@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Maybe they can settle for one of those wheelchair computers that tracks your eyes looking at the letters.
radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
I’d rather have an empty chair than Trump.
andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I’d vote to not have a president for 4 years before I’d vote for Trump.
And now I’m curious how many things depend on having a president at all, and what his role is, by design, in the US and other countries.
Atom@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Cabinet and federal appointments are the big thing. That’s why I’ll take Biden over Trump. I’m not just voting for him, I’m voting for the 4000 jobs in energy, health, labor, transportation, etc. to be run by Democrats, liberals, and qualified people.
Trump, and project 2025 plan to fill all those roles with right wing nutjobs who will do anything to please the right. On top of those 4000, they’d expand the presidential appointment power to fire up to 45% of the federal workforce. Meteorologist who said the hurricane won’t hit Alabama? GONE! Doctor who said injecting bleach was a bad idea? FIRED!
I’ll take anyone who won’t put Project 2025 in motion.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Didn’t we have a ouija board as a president back when Nancy’s psychic was running the show?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 months ago
No, you fools, the divine spirits of the stars are different than ghosts!
vga@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Might be a cool meme campaign, listing all the things that are better than Trump one by one. You could have a new one every hour until the election day easily.
InternetUser2012@midwest.social 10 months ago
You realistically could name 100 per day and still not run out of ammo.
eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m voting Brandon but let’s not pretend he didn’t shit the bed. It was fucking awful. Brandon should fuck off, but I’d vote for a corpse over any republican, and that will probably be true for the rest of my life.
enbyecho@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s funny how the standard by which we judge Biden is so high, and the standard for Trump is so low. Like… “oh wow, orange man form complete sentence, he’s really killin it” vs “omg Biden stumbled over his words and had one bad night, his candidacy is over”.
4am@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Biden had more than “a bad night” the dude looks like he’s aging out of the ability to stay awake for 90 minutes at a time.
Fuck trump and the GOP for the rest of time but Joe looks like shit dude, and he has for a while. Don’t fucking gaslight me.
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The issue here is that Biden has to compete for the morons in the middle who somehow can’t decide between an obvious traitor and a mediocre democrat. So he simply must perform better. The standard is truly higher for him because it takes a lot to sway the mentally defective undecideds.
PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
One bad night? You’re joking, right? Or have you convinced yourselves this inane rambling isn’t a real, long term issue?
blazera@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Stop fuckin strawmanning, jesus
Holyginz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What I’ve seen so many people not understand with the situation we are in right now, is that we can’t fix our current situation in one election. Everything is far to tucked up for that, so the best that can be done is vote for the least fucked up option and work to improve things. People refusing to participate or vote for the candidate who is unfortunately our best option currently (biden) are doing more damage than the people voting for the fascist party. The perfect candidate/option does not exist and never will (obviously not saying everything biden has done has been good).
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 10 months ago
are doing more damage than the people voting for the fascist party.
Hooooooly fuck this gets 27 upvotes? There it is folks. Leftists are doing more damage by refusing to vote than the people who stormed the capitol. This hot take brought to you by lemmy.
nexguy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
1000 people stormed the capitol. Allowing trump to win is far far far worse. Federal judge appointments alone are worth far more.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
The Republican party wouldn’t exist if everybody voted. That is a straight up fact. As fucked as our election system is, they are far enough the minority that if everyone got out, the EC wouldn’t matter.
You want a “left light” and a “true left”, you aren’t going to get it by abstaining, or by voting for nonviable moonshot third-party candidates. You are going to get it by abolishing the far right party and making that tiny sliver of the whole population realize that their antiquated views aren’t welcome here.
They need to be crushed.
They only exist because people don’t want to vote for the lesser of two evils, so instead they just don’t vote. And what do you know, a -1 for the less evil is just as effective as a +1 for the more evil.
All of their success is brought on by feeding apathy in their opposition, making it more difficult to vote, destroying any faith in the system, and gerrymandering.
So yes, in my opinion, the far left refusing to hold their nose for a few minutes maybe we’ll be voting for the insurrectionist.
NecroParagon@lemm.ee 10 months ago
33 after I just upvoted. Vote for the Joe.
Objection@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
People refusing to participate or vote for the candidate who is unfortunately our best option currently (biden) are doing more damage than the people voting for the fascist party.
Incredible take. “Say what you will about fascists, at least they support the two party system.”
ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
we can’t fix our current situation in one election.
We can never fix the current situation in one election. Fixing the American system, within the parameters set forth by that system, requires a dedicated voting bloc that lasts multiple elections refusing to vote for the Dems until they shift far enough left. As long as you are focused on the next election, your proscription for fixing American politics is just as unrealistic as a random Twitter tankie declaring a general strike.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
so the best that can be done is vote for the least fucked up option and work to improve things.
Democrats were good at the first part, but not the second. I remember lots of Dems saying “Vote for Biden, and then we’ll hold his feet to the fire!” Well, there was no “holding his feet to the fire”, because that’s seen as enabling Trump.
The perfect candidate/option does not exist and never will
Yes, but there are candidates who are better, such as Jill Stein and Cornel West. You can’t vote for a perfect candidate, but you can vote for the best candidate.
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Forget a perfect candidate. Just go back and watch the 2012 debate and both Obama and Mitt Romney were infinitely better than Joe Biden or Trump.
retrospectology@lemmy.world 10 months ago
People do understand that concept, but it’s literally what Democrats have been doing for the past 40 years and it has put us right here where we are right now. The “lesser of two evils” thing just has no propellant left, no one is buying that line anymore. Neoliberalism needs to go before Democrats can start winning again.
You need to understand that people have been saying “just put the neolibs in power again and we’ll work to improve things” every election cycle, and now we are closer to fascism than we’ve literally ever been. You at least understand why people see that strategy as a failure, right? Like, you understand why no one believes it anymore?
abracaDavid@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Biden is simply not our best option.
What exactly makes a geriatric 81 year old the most fit person for the job?
There is plenty of time to get a new candidate.
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I mean all the concerned people could take to the streets right now.
The DNC wants you to believe that all you can do is cast your vote for something every other year and just take the options presented. In that sense they are worse than the Reps who encourage their base to be active for more than just the ballots and it is working.
Especially now the Dems give me huge 1984 vibes in how the individual should handle politics relative to the party.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Technically I’m voting for Biden, in reality I’m voting against Trump. I really wish I had a better option…
abracaDavid@lemmy.today 10 months ago
This is some weird ass propaganda.
The best thing that Biden ever did was just to not be Trump.
Why are these memes so weirdly die-hard in the support of a man that is visibly unfit for the 4 years of presidency?
No one is actually excited about old Joe. It’s just that he’s simply not Trump.
It would be best if he steps down so that we can get a person in office that actually excites people for more than just not being the other guy.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Just because you are still voting Biden, doesn’t mean you don’t care.
It just means you still don’t want the raving malignant narcissist Trump.
Any somewhat normal person would be the obvious choice over Trump. Any person who is not clearly a traitor to USA and Democracy would be preferable to Trump.drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I am voting against trump. Biden and establishment Dems suck. But there is literally no other option. If you don’t vote and trump wins you would be at fault every bit as his voters will be
bender223@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Yeah, some ppl don’t get that you don’t have to like Biden, to vote against trump. 🤷♂️
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m voting against Trump. Not thrilled to have a president who might have to have his Oval Office relocated to a nursing home.
archomrade@midwest.social 10 months ago
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 10 months ago
fuck off Yanks, stop making every post about you
demizerone@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m voting for the man with one foot in the coffin that is not trump, but it doesn’t matter because I don’t live in a swing state.
UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 10 months ago
But NOOOOO both sides both sides lalalaa can’t hear you both sides lalalaa /s
mlg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Biden loses
OP blames the 5 tankies actually living in the USA for voting 3rd party
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, I feel like people are freaking out and ignoring that Biden (and Trump) are largely the people they surround themselves with
anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I see the coping, Biden is cooked and the election is Lost.
Liberals are self-infecting a loss, and are blindingly running against a wall, the smack will be heard from outer space.
pubquiz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is what Germany in 1929 was - without social media.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 10 months ago
Man I love love love not being from the US.
Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.
-Hannah Arendt, German-American philosopher and political theorist, in fuckin 1964 lmao. some things never change!
Delusional@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well when the only other vote is fascism, hate, and bullying… Yeah we’re gonna vote for the not ridiculous choice.
RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
No one minds you voting for Biden believe it or not. We do mind being demonized and straw-personed for not voting for him.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Biden supporters on the Internet are the worst thing that could happen to Biden… and they say Tankies are doing Trump’s work for him
Facebones@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Dems don’t have a platform or a personality without Trump to lord over anyone they don’t like, but will take Trump over moving an inch left 100/100 times because their platforms are 95% the same.
febra@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah… sure. Not a tankie, I’m European and don’t care about influencing you to vote for one or another. But after seeing Biden “debate” Trump I know the dems are fucked. I mean sure, still go out and vote, but I honestly don’t see many people doing so.
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Íf he wore a clown suit and only spoke Pig-Latin during the debate… considering the alternative
He would STILL be the only viable candidate worth voting for
PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Tankies? CNN, MSNBC, and NYTimes are all concerned.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Considering that Biden’s main competitor is an actual neonazi and the USA have an undemocratic election system that disadvantages all but two parties, there’s pretty much no choice but the senile grandpa who’s not a neonazi.
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I think the real upsetting thing isn’t Biden’s performance, or havong Biden as president four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden’s abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.
whocares314@lemmy.world 10 months ago
crusa187@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
This was made perfectly clear in 2016 when Hillary stole the nom by colluding with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
If people haven’t caught on by now, they haven’t been paying attention. Or are just willfully ignorant.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s not in their interests to let a progressive win. Just like their counterpart, the DNC takes a shit ton of
briberydonations fromcorporationslobbyists. Bringing in a progressive who would reform the system or push back against pro-corporate policies is biting the hands that feed them.TheBat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
DNC should’ve started promoting someone else as Presidential candidate since the last 4 years and let Biden work quietly in the background.
_sideffect@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They could be rotten from the inside as well, knowing full well how it would go
riodoro1@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I wouldn’t be surprised
rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
youtu.be/aDfp-QsH51w?t=2018
Sorry, Piped and other frontends isn’t working right now, so you’ll have to use normal YouTube or go through VLC.
Pandantic@midwest.social 10 months ago
The title of this video is “An Anarchistic Watches West Wing” or something similar. I only watched 20mins but it was good so far. It’s a criticism of the American Capitalist system, American Democracy (power of the president, presidential hero worship), etc. via the way it’s portrayed in the West Wing.
photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Or simply have YouTube links redirected to NewPipe.
tostiman@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Democratic Nation of Congo?
Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Democratic National Committee.