Warl0k3
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- Comment on Adding stickers to my fruit so it's harder to recycle 11 hours ago:
They’re non-harmful if you eat them, but They’re also not compostable and need to be removed before being disposed of
- Comment on Truth is way more fucked up than fiction 12 hours ago:
I suspect the downvotes are more because you’re behaving like someone who gets downvoted and calls people “depressed illiterates” as a cope.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 3 days ago:
I hate doing these quote-heavy replies but yeesh, please forgive my lack of narrative structure:
Now, why oh why does the Skull Famine not have relevancy on the political climate? That’s exactly my point.
Oh lookit, another version of what your point was. No, other famines aren’t depoliticized - they’re just not particularly relevant to modern discourse.
Just a small remark:
Hey look, documenting methodology! I heartily approve!
Funny to me that you hadn’t seen any of this before
What? It’s one paper in an obscure journal. Why would
Especially now that sensibilities with Ukraine are high, I wonder, why is it that similar studies but regarding the impact of capitalism in Ukraine aren’t constantly discussed? […] Given your original dismiss when I talked of drug abuse, organized crime, suicide rates, malnutrition and preventable disease, I doubt it.
Did you even read either of the papers you linked? Hell, even Cockshott’s pretty rough paper has a couple sections devoted to why this isn’t a straightforward conclusion, and things like alcoholism started prior to the dissolution of the soviet union as a result of things like Khrushchev’s attempt to implement prohibition. Neoliberal ideas were pervasive sure, but it’s not like they were inflicted on the USSR by outside forces - the post-stalin neoliberal movement was aggressively suppressed explicitly because of it’s popularity, which was due to a whole multitude of factors (doubtlessly the CIA fondly wishes to be included in that list)
Cool, but I addressed that already. I already gave you the Brazil example.
You made a completely unsupported claim, provided sources for an entirely unrelated claim, now you’re again attempting to assert that first claim is true without providing any sources while insisting the second claim matters. Come on man you said this was easy. Hell, one of your own previous sources provides an astoundingly solid explanation of why your position (that a doubling of life expectancy in the 30s is notable) is pretty spurious.
Comparative economics can be matched to pretty much anything, like you’re doing here. Without actual substance to back you up it’s meaningless. You can’t just wave the magic statistics wand, point at a single graph and then draw whatever conclusions you like and then hope to maintain any shred of credibility when challenged. You’re just making this up to try and force your conclusion through, and it’s getting sad.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 3 days ago:
Your point was that we don’t use big scary names taken from the native language for other famines like the ones that happened under british indian rule thus “Holodomor” must clearly be a politicized name. Except you were flat wrong and we totally do the exact thing you said we didn’t. Prior to that, your point was that Holodomor sounded like “Holocaust” so clearly it must be a politicized name. And then you were dead wrong, because despite it being obviously true that the two share a common lingusitic root, Holodomor was coined a good twenty years before “The Holocaust” happened, so it can’t have been a reference.
Now your point is that it must be a politicized name because it’s more talked about than a different famine, one which wasn’t ever punishable with death to be discussed, which there is no active effort to deny it’s severity or cause, which has no relevancy in the broad political climate, on a tiny website, and even using the world’s most arbitrary and cherry-picked metric you got the number wrong (there’s 11 results, including my comment above, but for some reason (possibly related to LW’s search indexing being notoriously unreliable - which is true across pretty much all of lemmy) excluding your comment. So, we can chalk it up to 12 and also question the reliability of the methodology as a whole.
Here: Yes, the Holodomor is political - it was absolutely the result of political actions, and is the subject of a great many conspiracy theories and weirdo apologist movements today. No, the name Holodomor was not made up just to be scarier by association with The Holocaust to discredit the Soviets who caused it like you’re implying - the word existed twenty years before the coining of the term Holocaust. You’re just plain flat out wrong in the particulars you’re claiming.
Can you please move on?
Okay, new topic:
Cockshott’s (great name) paper is just pretty awful in general (which is probably why it’s in a magazine and not a journal) and his methodology for calculating excess deaths is, even he acknowledges in the text, extremely dubious (which is fine, he does that to illustrate a tangential concept). but it does make some good points towards the end and I agree with his overall thesis about planned economies (once I figured out what it was). Rosefielde’s (great name) paper is excellent, and breaks down his calculations in an extremely easily digested manner. I might even use it as an example of decent demographic calculation at some point, it’s just a really good overview of the process and details the factors effecting (hehe) the
However: Both of those papers answer show examples of addressing death rates, and make no attempt the problem of calculating lives saved. Lives saved is the metric in question, not death rate. They’re terrible examples for your point, because they make no attempt to address your point whatsoever.
If your claim, “you can easily do these studies for the particular case of the transition to capitalism”, were actually true, why would you cite these papers, instead of ones that have nothing to do with your point at all?
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 3 days ago:
Then why don’t we use any Indian names for the very many famines in India due to British occupation?
Do you mean dramatized names like the Great Bengal Famine? The Bengali name is “Chiẏāttōrēr mônbôntôr (lit. 'Famine of ‘76’)”, which is pretty vague given how many famines have happened in the world. Probably it merits the fancier name because it was the first one under british rule. Or did you perhaps mean the Skull Famine, which you know, not very dramatic at all.
Demographic extrapolations and comparative economics.
Hi! I’m a data scientist specializing in public health data modeling and I’m sorry, that was a little mean of me to bait you like that, it’s a trick question: proving lives saved is the classic example of bad statistics and proving negatives. The assumptions required to make a definite statement about lives saved in a historical event are easy to make, but are necessarily so restrictive that they render any conclusions valueless unless you have definite conditions within a narrow time scope (like in a vaccine rollout or cholera outbreak). That’s why meaningless phrases like “Demographic extrapolations and comparative economics” are such an easy thing to parrot - you’re just saying “and then we do statistics, QED” without having to engage with the actual difficult part (the math).
Does comparative economics correlate to deaths? Sure! It correlates to just about everything you could ever want! The most famous example is the hemline index, which has spurred over a century of debate as to the actual causal connections (and if the theory itself even has merit). But proving that causal link to lives saved? Now that’s a damn tricky problem, and some really promising methodology has only recently arisen from the management of ventilator shortages during covid in the US (and it’s still being developed!) I highly recommend looking into it, it’s a fascinating field of research right now.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 3 days ago:
And why exactly did that term stick in the west, only transliterated as Holodomor instead?
Because that’s the name it was given by the Ukranian peoples that survived it? I’m not sure what your point is here when you agree that it’s a transliteration of the name.
ngram graph
It’s not exactly a disputed fact that things like the Holodomor didn’t gain much traction in western literature until after the fall of the soviet union, because that’s when western literature was able to access it.
Discussion of the Holodomor became possible as part of the Soviet glasnost (“openness”) policy in the 1980s. In Ukraine, the first official use of the word “famine” was in a December 1987 speech by Volodymyr Shcherbytskyi
Add to it that the soviets violently suppressed reporting on it within the USSR, which you can even see reflected in that graph, explains the lack of occurrence in non-western works. That seems, you know, pretty gosh dang basic.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 4 days ago:
inappropriately label “Holodomor” (scary word for a specific famine to make it sound like holocaust, I wonder if you have any other special scary words for other famines)
Try again, buddy.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 4 days ago:
Lysenko’s politically derived pseudoscience that started with ideology instead of evidence combined with Stalinist/Maoist paranoia and conflation of scientific dissent with rebellion and threats to the state created the famines from what would have been shortages during the restructuring.
Yes, exactly. Although I take quite a bit of issue with your depiction of Lysenkoism (you’re presenting it as much broader in scope than even wikipedia claims and certainly more generally impactful to the system than any academic source I’ve read considers it) I don’t think that you’re overall wrong by any stretch! Countries are complex systems, which again has been my entire point, and I’m glad we agree on that.
- Comment on Back in 1993 Amtrak ran trial runs with European high-speed trains, Sweden's X2000 and Germany's ICE, here is a well made documentary about the event. 4 days ago:
Noooo!
- Comment on Back in 1993 Amtrak ran trial runs with European high-speed trains, Sweden's X2000 and Germany's ICE, here is a well made documentary about the event. 4 days ago:
(Pretty sure the joke is about ICE as in trumps thugs instead of ICE as in internal combustion engine)
- Comment on Aeroplane 4 days ago:
There’s no way you wouldn’t be diverted to an airport that doesn’t require a Cat III landing, even a IIIA is stupid dangerous for a trained crew. Like iirc you only have a 1-2 second correction window for any III landing where the ILS cuts out, compared to something like 8-10 for a II (which is plenty of time for an amateur that’s been coached on the procedure to do a missed landing then give it back to the autopilot, that’s super easy)
- Comment on Aeroplane 4 days ago:
Set autopilot to fly approach -> activate ILS. Besides the radio there’s essentially no other controls you would need to touch in an emergency, and it’s very easy (by design) for the tower to talk you through the settings to do that. This meme is more than enough to familiarize you with the basic control locations in case you need to make an adjustment based off tower instructions, but at the same time buddy chill TF out it’s a meme.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 5 days ago:
So your argument is that it wasn’t just Lysenkoism, but the political situation at the time that exacerbated the faults of Lysenkoism which lead to those famines?
Which has been my entire point this whole time?
- Comment on 5 days ago:
The only actual requirement is to be 35, which…
ew.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 5 days ago:
Sure, it was a pervasive piece of reasoning that existed in a system which would kill you if you tried to criticize the pseudoscience du jour. It had a large influence in soviet culture, yep, but it was absolutely not the sole driving force behind things like the Holodomor.
- Comment on Hrmmmmm 5 days ago:
Man yeah, the fall of Lysenkoism is really the defining moment of mid-late 1940s soviet russia. Couldn’t possibly have been any other factors which played into the shift in cultural attitudes within the soviet union at that time. Nope, must have been down to Lysenkoism itself.
Also it ended in the 60s and the last big soviet famine was in 47s so idk about that timeline - Comment on Hrmmmmm 5 days ago:
There was no one single cause, and trying to deflect blame onto a single (exceptionally whackdoodle) pseudoscientific theory is intellectually dishonest at best, and regular dishonest at worst.
- Comment on On new installations, Android rebinds the power button to open up Google Assistant 1 week ago:
Current gen of samsung phones has removed it entirely, fwiw.
- Comment on hmm breakfast 2 weeks ago:
Much less effective from an (admittedly brief) look around. The finer filtration you get with paper apparently helps filter it out, but it’s such a small amount even just chewing beans it doesn’t appear to matter.
- Comment on Minecraft is removing code obfuscation in Java Edition 2 weeks ago:
As I understand it no, the modloaders will still handle things like file management and conflicts. Individual mods could implement solutions for that, but it makes more sense to centralize that effort around the modloaders.
What this will do is make it much less tedious to develop the mods in the first place.
(I may be wrong and the role of modloaders may have changed in the six years since I was last active in the modding scene without my knowing it)
- Comment on Just up the production quality and they'll love it, Trust me bro 👍 2 weeks ago:
I mean, sure maybe? The appeal is in someone sharing something they’re passionate about and taking the time to craft images to showcase it (in a sexy way). If you’re putting effort into doing that, it’d probably work fine.
- Comment on Just up the production quality and they'll love it, Trust me bro 👍 2 weeks ago:
Ah no I just meant it was a coincidence that when I said robots, referring to my milling machines, you guessed one of the main things I do with them (combat robots). I do technically own an arm, but it’s just a small 2.5-axis tray placing arm, everything else I have is just various flavors of CNC or 3D printing equipment. And as to why I own them: I’m really bad with money and my autistic hyperfocus is robots. IDK man they’re just cool.
What type of bot
Is there really a difference between a vert spinner and an antweight flipper? The answer is a beaterbar spinner, but my local group plays with an arena floor that isn’t flat so the meta has really been shifting towards control bots because they’re the least reliant on clearance for success (looking at you, wedgebots. Looking at you with scorn in my gaze). But I’ve been messing around with a hammerspinner design that I’m really hoping will bring back the carnage!
Everyone wants the coveted silicon valley stress for 5 years then retire and coast off your resume position dont they.
Turns out those jobs are really hard to get, damnit…
- Comment on Just up the production quality and they'll love it, Trust me bro 👍 2 weeks ago:
Like combat robots
Antweight, yep! Though in this case I just meant I own a lot of manufacturing robots.
And now you live in a boat off the coast of Costa Rica
- Comment on Just up the production quality and they'll love it, Trust me bro 👍 2 weeks ago:
Lol no problem - fudging some of the specific details, but I’m (until recently) a software developer specializing in research database applications, and I teach computer science on the side. The CNC and electronics in general are just hobbies that feed into other hobbies (who doesn’t love robots???), and the vault door was a photo from a dear old friend who works construction and knows of my love for the retro-industrial aesthetic!
(Very curious where the idea I’m in a cabin came from, I think all my posts have been from when I was living in my regular boring old house!)
- Comment on Just up the production quality and they'll love it, Trust me bro 👍 2 weeks ago:
So the above example is a bit of a special case since it appeals to me specifically because of my love for plants and automation.
But in a slightly less specific niche, you’ve pretty much nailed it. Someone sending something personal that they’re passionate about is hot for a bunch of obvious reasons (passion, sexy naked people thinking about the composition of their photos) and someone sending something creative would be pretty unique in my experience, and it’d be really fun to think they put that much effort into showing off.
- Comment on Just up the production quality and they'll love it, Trust me bro 👍 2 weeks ago:
Hi I am an autistic chick and yes, please, this would without a word of a lie 100% absolutely work on me.
- Comment on Don't fix the problem just change the parameters 2 weeks ago:
is a thing just because time always tends towards 5:43 and one we pass it, we use the next 5:43 as a target.
Yes exactly, which is why I said you may be overthinking it when you were trying to interpret it as anything more than this. The Equinox were a critical time for the calibration of sundials, hence why I chose them.
just because you can’t admit that you heard precession of the equinoxes in the past and misremembered it.
But, why? It would have been perfectly valid to bring up in the original context - you yourself brought up the complicating factor of minor celestial events in it’s applicability to - and “progression towards the equinox” is a fine-if-slightly-florid way to describe the passage of time towards a significant event. There’s no reason for me to have done that.
- Comment on Don't fix the problem just change the parameters 2 weeks ago:
The significance of the equinox in premodern calendar systems is pretty well established - stonehenge is an easy example of how it was taken into consideration, and was used to mark out significant dates.
How can time itself progress towards equinoxes, which are points in time?
I think you might be overthinking what I said. To highlight the absurdity of your question: One day comes after another day. Eventually, on one of those, days the arrangement of celestial bodies wherein the length of the day equinox will happen. From wikipedia:
An equinox is equivalently defined as the time when the plane of Earth’s equator passes through the geometric center of the Sun’s disk.
We’ll reach that arrangement again as time progresses. The progression of time, will bring us to the point in which that arrangement occurs. If you would prefer, “progression towards the equinoxes” is a slightly less florid way of expressing the same concept.
- Comment on Don't fix the problem just change the parameters 2 weeks ago:
You understand that it’s just a description, right? It’s not a term.
- Comment on Don't fix the problem just change the parameters 2 weeks ago:
No, I mean the progression towards the equinoxes - historically the equinoxes were the common way to demark calendar dates, and as a result they’re a useful reference point. Not universal, of course, but still frequently used enough to be useful.
I get you’re arguing because, well, this is the internet and I contradicted you. That’s how it works, our egos are too tied up in our comments alone and it’s too easy to read any tone into a comment that we’d like. We get heated. So in that spirit, let me be explicit that I’m not trying to be rude to you when I say this: You’re oversimplifying the metaphor to make your point.
For example: I’ve been sitting around for a full day, but the damn clock says only twelve minutes have gone by.
You adjust a sundial in the morning, and then can read it from there (assuming it hasn’t been jostled) - but you still have to be aware of the rules and conventions of the system, and work within it’s boundaries. If we arbitrarily dismiss critical parts of it’s operation, there will be no meaning in anything we have to say. The territory of things like “clocks don’t measure time, they measure circles and everything we derive from them is thence wild and baseless speculation”, literally true and I can defend that position until we both die of carefully-measured old age, but so over-reduced as to be completely meaningless.