What does anatomically correct mean here? Should I switch to my alt account before searching?
flowers for the lost
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NightFantom@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
Iapetus@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
Weight distribution and physical density.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
And also taking into account that women can get pregnant, right?
Right?
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 17 hours ago
EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
Hey! Leave Otto’s girlfriend out of this!
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
I’m guessing it has to do with interaction between seatbelt and boobs. And all previous tests just assumed a flat chest.
DrBob@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Boobs squish at crash forces. The pressure with crash testing is keep every variable consistent so that results can be compared over time. I read an article years ago about the trouble of maintaining a supply of “tea rose” colored underwear for that reason.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 hours ago
Test dummy with boobs, im guessing
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
What’s with the pointing-at-camera thing?
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
She’s trying to look inspirational but ends up looking like an overly-confident real estate agent.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Yeah I can immediately tell she’s some business huckster, doing “motivational speaking” or some shit
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
It’s got “I can sell you this” energy for sure
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 19 hours ago
henfredemars@infosec.pub 20 hours ago
That’s how you know who is the main character.
TheBat@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
She’s going to crash test you, dummy.
Jolteon@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
She wants you to join the United States army
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
Seems to satisfy the ask.
I mean, I knew medical research was misogynistic but this is still somehow shocking.
SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Has an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy” actually helped? What even is an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy” and how does it encompass all women’s body types in a way that the, assumedly anatomically correct male crash test dummy wouldn’t accommodate?
I am absolutely uneducated on this but to my uneducated mind this sounds like getting riled up over a non-issue.
9point6@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Crash test dummies test the impact of vehicle accidents on human bodies. While more men than women are injured in vehicle accidents, they are more frequently involved in them in the first place. Women are 17% more likely than men to die in the event of a car crash, based on university studies in the US, and 73% more likely to sustain serious injuries in a front-end collision (Invisible Women, p186). In the world of crash test dummies, ‘human body’ has really meant ‘male body’; the first anatomically correct female crash test dummy was only created in 2022.
www.theactuary.com/2023/…/when-human-isnt-female
Before intervention
17% more dead women than men 73% more injured women than men When women are in fewer crashes overall
SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I appreciate your effort to find that data but it doesn’t really address any of my original questions.
Also, from what you’ve quoted at least, there is no differentiation between drivers vs passengers.
Your data absolutely shows there is a problem, it just doesn’t show that the problem is the lack of an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy”.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
One reason male crash test dummies are not representative of female vehicle occupants in an accident is that seatbelts do not sit in the correct position on female bodies, because of their breasts. This has resulted in a system of safety testing, and by extension car design, that favours male safety over female safety. This, combined with the higher number of car accidents involving men, has created a data gap that masks the reality of vehicle safety for females.
This is the only reasoning provided in that entire article
YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
“An anatomically correct female crash test dummy is a test device designed to more accurately represent the body shape and dimensions of women, particularly in areas like the pelvis and upper chest, which are more vulnerable in car crashes. These dummies, unlike the older scaled-down male dummies, incorporate features like a female-shaped pelvis, breasts, and a lower center of gravity to better assess how different car safety features affect female occupants.”
-Google AI Overview
SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Ok, I hadn’t considered the differently shaped pelvis and rib cage so I’ll concede that it makes sense.
Even still, to my mind (again, not educated in this area) the breasts themselves are not going to be a factor in terms of a car crash assuming seatbelts are correctly worn
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Do those also account for pregnant people (masc, fem and enby)?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Than their required use. Gendered crash test dummies have been a thing for a long time, but AFAIK prior to this there was no anatomical requirements at all, including children (?).
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
fucking seatbelts do not play well with tits (how is this still a thing)
This sounds hard to solve, especially for women with fuller bosom. I’m assuming that the car has a mechanism that allows raising/lowering the seatbelt height, and that this didn’t solve the issue…
The answer would probably be a harness, like they use for racing, but it’s so inconvenient to use as to not actually being a solution to a boobie-squashing neck-sawing strap.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 13 hours ago
Speaking as somebody with a fuller bosom, as you mentioned, the problem is mostly the angle of the shoulder belt. There is an adjustable slide, but it only adjusts four or five inches, which simply isn’t enough for the seven inches difference between my partner and I. The end of the belt is by my ear, not my shoulder. I’m constantly tugging the shoulder belt lower when I’m in the car, either passenger or driver, which is really not safe.
In 2008, I was in a car crash. I was driving a 1998 minivan and got t-boned by a 2006 SUV going 55mph. It turned the van into a banana, pushed the driver’s seat over to the center. I don’t remember the accident itself, but it looks like my head bounced between the B pillar and the airbag/steering wheel, it broke my glasses, cracked my skull, and gave me a subarachnoid brain hemorrhage with a 50/50 survival rate. Literally knocked me cross-eyed, so I was seeing double for forever. It also broke my pelvis into 8 pieces, sliced up my spleen, and broke a few ribs. I still have a bolt holding my pelvis to my spine. Took over a year to recover, then COVID hit while I was trying to get back to work. fml, never doing that again.
Maybe it would have been better if I had side curtain airbags, but the main problem really feels like the seatbelt just doesn’t fit.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
I feel like this probably isn’t the preferred terminology.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
Gonna be real, “crash test dummy” is getting me caught up here.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
You don’t like their song about weird kids?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 hours ago
The weirdest kid is the one who went to church.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Best toys around
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Flowers on my dick and bees all around
Iapetus@slrpnk.net 19 hours ago
We landed two rovers on Mars before medical science discovered the clitoris.
The Mars Exploration Rovers landed on Mars in January 2004.
An accurate anatomical model of the clitoris was not created until 2005.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
“Medical science” didn’t only just discover the clitoris 20 years ago… Fairly accurate descriptions of the structure of the clitoris go back to the 1840s. It’s the textbooks used for medical training that were omitting the already known structures to the detriment of medical professionals and healthcare.
Never mind that discovering and accurately mapping something are very different. That’s like saying we hadn’t discovered the moon until we saw the other side.
It’s a funny meme that scientists couldn’t find the clit, but it detracts from the actual sexism that was preventing the known science from being taught properly to doctors.
…asu.edu/…/anatomy-clitoris-2005-helen-e-oconnell…
Iapetus@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
My wording was for comedic affect. I agree with you.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
You forgot Sojourner.
Iapetus@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
Fuck me.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
FFS…