Submitted 1 day ago by TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone to games@lemmy.world
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US local phone numbers, English:
Master card
800-627-8372,1,1
Visa
800-847-2911,1,4
Script:
I’m calling to urge you to immediately end your new policy that unfairly targets the adult content industry, making sex workers even more vulnerable. I’m also asking you to sit down with stakeholders- specifically sex workers and adult content creators- to develop solutions that ensure equitable access to financial services, create stability, and reduce harm for sex workers.
We need to stop making this about sex work and porn and start making it about the fact that payment processors should not be allowed to control how we legally spend our money.
Yup, it has much broader implications that just porn. If payment processors are allowed to gatekeep how people legally spend their money, then there’s nothing stopping them from targeting other “undesirable” businesses. It’s basically the Net Neutrality situation all over again.
Nerd
No linking errors on my end. Skill issue probly
Or software issue. Looks like my dialer do not like that first link.
You DMed me after removing my second attempt
I don’t see anything on my previous post stating otherwhise.
This is just like the time you said “Harriett Tubman sucks and was an idiot” and then got mad at me for saying you suck in response
I don’t remember that one, care to provide a link ? If it was removed, mods should still be able to see it, even if you may not.
Some hacker should release the porn history of their CEOs
Union of concerned gooners rising up
First they came for the gooners, and I did not speak out, because I was not a gooner
Then they came for the queers, and I did not speak out, because I was not a queer
Then they can for GissaMittJobb in particular, and no one spoke out, because they suck
I love you too, no matter how toxic you try to be. 😘
Hey, I’m not saying I don’t stand with the gooners, take that back
Thanks for sharing! I’ll convert this to plain text with clickable single-dial phone numbers and emails and repost tomorrow morning
AMEX killing it again. Just sucks they got beef with Costco, who also kill it. I don’t want to be asked to take sides.
Remember when Paypal said they would straight up steal your money if they found social media posts they don’t like. Even if it’s on a platform they have nothing to do with?
This proof that the world needs more crypto.
Why call some drone in an outsourced call center?
Find out the home addresses and numbers of their C-staff and board. Call them, send them physical letters. Picket their homes.
Wouldn’t that be considered cyberstalking/harrasment by searching for, obtaining, and using any business employee’s personal contact info for matters related to their business in most places in the world?
Yes, I understand that in places like the USA that info is technically public info usually, but I feel like contacting someone’s private contact for matters related to their business is crossing a line that I wouldn’t want someone to do to me. I don’t want someone blowing up my personal phone every time something happens at my work, whether I was even involved or not, but especially if I was not involved at all.
eeeh… when a business starts dictating morality to the general public, it too crosses a line from “just business” to a legit public concern that merits a stronger response. Hiding from the consequences because it’s “just business” is the reason so much of the world is so incredibly shitty right now, and we need to move past it’s acceptability as an excuse.
I don’t understand this fully, from a profiteering gluttons standpoint, why wouldn’t they want to process anything and everything and make all the money they can?
Probably image. They don’t want to be associated with something they think the public will perceive as negative. Bitcoin was vilified initially because “criminals were using it” (but let’s forget about the part where cash is also untraceable). So they prob don’t want to be the “credit card company that supports pedophiles and rapists”
Cash is traceable (at least bills). All bills have serial numbers and any time cash enters a bank it’s tracked who took it into or out of the bank.
So if I withdraw cash, hand it to you and you put it in the bank, the bank knows we are somewhat connected.
I’m guessing there’s legal pressure from some countries, and to stay in their good graces (i.e. ward off alternatives), they’re making these policies global.
It’s not at all countries, with the recent round of censoring on Steam and Itch it was an Australian TERF/SWERF advocacy group called Collective Shout. But other policy changes have been linked to their sister orgs in places like the US. They got 1000 people to complain until the policy was changed.
Yes. But some countries includes the United States, and US states, and others. There is an established relation between the US government and payment processors to shut down activity the government doesn’t like but either can’t or hasn’t make illegal.
I’ll tell you why. Government uses soft threats to encourage private business to censor things. I know some of you guys don’t like this side of this parallel story, but do you remember when the FBI was marking posts for twitter to take down as “misinformation” that then was shown to not be misinformation, but rather just inconvenient for the current presidency in charge.
The legal code in the US is so large and companies engage in so much activity that it is impossible to run a 100% legal business. Companies instead run by an “ask forgiveness later” model. It’s the only one that can actually work in the US. But to be able to run that model you need the good graces of the government. So when it says jump companies do it.
There was a time when you could be banned off of twitter for saying factual things the FBI didn’t like. And it’s not like the FBI didn’t know better. We didn’t need independent verification of the Hunter Biden emails because we had confirmed cryptographic signatures on all of the emails. Journalists get a pass because they are technologically illiterate, but the FBI and Twitter sure didn’t.
What’s crazy about this is that the supreme court ruled against this use of third parties. But the practice wasn’t new when it hit social media because it’s been a long practice with payment processors. So my question when that ruling came out was “what about the existing similar practice in payment processors.” Apparently the government and processors are still in cahoots in violation of that ruling. That relationship was actually started in an effort to crack down on bestiality porn, which is never the less legal in the US.
So the question is do you like to government directing third parties to censor?
This is what we should be doing. How many people can we pull together to make this work?
In Lemmy, there are dozens of us, but that doesn’t mean we can’t recruit people we know who are on Facebook, Instagram, Xitter, Bluesky, TikTok, etc.
And what‘s an underpaid, outsourced call center agent supposed to do? This will do nothing. Stop buying shit with their services.
From what I can tell, they’re just trying to replicate what the religious lobbyists did to cause this situation in the first place, so they’ve shown that this works.
They tell their manager. That’s it. Enough of them tell their manager, that manager has to tell their superior. It goes upwards from there.
Their managers are also call center employees who will filter that noise out. That’s one of the reasons to employ a call center.
“just don’t use money bro”
There aren’t any other options than credit cards in the US to pay without cash?
What are we realistically supposed to do? Fax dollar bills to people?
Stop buying things. Go to your bank and withdraw cash. Write checks.
Cash. Buy things in person. Use bitcoin. Use AMEX. Save money.
So many options besides using Visa or Mastercard.
I think the reasoning is something like this: these companies employ such call center employees for a reason, either they legally have to for one reason or another or they’ve determined that in some way, it is more profitable to have the capacity for people to call them than not. If the call centers are swamped, then they still cost the company money, but their benefit to the company is reduced, because the “real” calls can’t get through in a timely fashion. As such, it’s in the company’s interest to avoid having people spam them, and if the policy those people want changed won’t really cost the company anything to change, then just doing that might be the most profitable option for them.
They suppose to say they need more people to work because they get more calls.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. This IS how you stop it.
You and the person above don’t seem to understand the duopoly that Visa and Mastercard have on the global payment processing system. As well, you wouldn’t be boycotting them directly, but businesses that are forced into that duopoly. Unless you and OC are business owners yourself?
For every person who’s civically aware enough to choose not to there are 10 people out there who don’t know or don’t care enough to do the same.
FrogmanL@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
So I appreciate the pushback, but for those of us with the option, what should we choose? Amex? Bitcoin is non-viable.
I’m too tired from all the bullshit. I just want a solution, not another problem. I live in America, and we have WAY too many problems already.