Ulrich
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- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 1 day ago:
It wasn’t my argument, it was yours.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 1 day ago:
Excellent, so you agree it’s not the problem you made it out to be?
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 1 day ago:
loaded with spyware, ads, and shitty monetization practices
I mean that’s already the case with PC games…? Only slightly better because they are not Google and don’t allow straight-up ads for third-party products and services, which is what most of these “free” mobile games run on anyway. Valve has the potential to make a much better experience.
If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Because steam already is on windows and linux?
Really? You’re really going to pretend Windows and Linux are alternatives to Android? Can we just have an honest conversation, please?
It took a legislative fight with the eu and quite a few fines before they decided to stop being ass much of a bunch of assholes.
You’re mistaken. They’re still a bunch of assholes. If you specifically live in the EU you might be able to distribute your own apps but they still require Apple’s rubber stamp and Apple still gets to collect the vast majority of their tax. Not the case for Android (anywhere).
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
I’m very familiar with the case.
and the only reason for it to become a case, was the monopolistic position.
The reason it became a case is because Epic violated the ToS (intentionally).
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
It can also be delivered with said advertising company completely removed from the system. Because it’s open source.
Did you notice how the alternative wasn’t even involved in this discussion? Why do you think that is?
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
It’s called diversity. It has its drawbacks but for the most part it works just fine. That’s why it’s the most popular mobile OS in the world.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Seems to work just fine for me and all of my 3rd party apps and stores 🤷
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
They can do whatever, it’s their store.
No. They can’t.
which…lets Google ban anyone they want from the Google Play store
No it didn’t.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
…would you like to explain?
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
I’m sorry you feel that way, I don’t know what to do about that.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
I don’t understand what that has to do with the discussion.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Bro why are you being so argumentative?
What are you talking about? Do you expect me to just reply to everyone who provides a response “Yes, you’re correct” and move on?
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Valve didn’t expand Steam into Linux to gain market share in a new market
…I didn’t say anything about Linux?
there isn’t a successful second app store that isn’t tied to hardware
That doesn’t mean there couldn’t be.
even Amazon quit Android
Well everything I’ve read about Amazon indicates that it was atrocious for everyone so that’s unsurprising.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Now that I’m thinking about it they’d probably have to de-list those cross-platform games from the Google app or make them unavailable, which would probably lead to a lot of confusion.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Well there is that but there’s also the example I gave in the OP where devs could potentially extend their existing games into a new market, increasing their potential audience. A single license would gain a new platform with potential sales opportunities.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
more work and risk then its worth.
It’s worth billions.
theyd have to convince people to essentially break androids walled garden
How do you think people install the Steam app on Windows…?
Then there is the fact that phones are different specs, more testing
There are billions of potential PC configurations. Android would be extremely easy by comparison.
valve would gain little
Did I mention billions? 💵
i think not mucking around in an already monopolistic mobile market is a pretty wise business decision on their part overall.
You could be right.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
…because a phone fits in your pocket? And it already goes everywhere with you?
Even if you think it’s dumb (which I mostly agree with) Apple alone makes more money from mobile gaming than every other gaming platform combined.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
I don’t think they would get away with selling games in the app if games were playable on Android
I’m saying they would need a separate app to purchase, install and play Android games.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
I didn’t realize that but it doesn’t change the fact that:
- The PC draws way more power than is needed
- The PC must be powered on (mine draws ~40 watts at idle)
- A monitor has to be plugged in and turned on.
- The aspect ratio on the devices have to match or you’ll get letterboxing.
- If your main display is 4k it will run the game at 4k even if you’re playing on a 720p display so you have to go in and change the graphical settings every time you switch devices.
- In my limited experience it literally just doesn’t even work at all.
- Even if you’re running over the web you’re limited to the strength of your data connection.
It just doesn’t work like it should, in my opinion. Hopefully they can fix this in the future with Steam Machines.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
That’s exactly my point. The current app lets you buy PC games despite being distributed through the store.
And they could continue doing so while also distributing a separate app independently that allows you to buy Android games.
Notice if you try to buy a movie from Amazon on Google TV they redirect you to the website. They could do the same or redirect you to the non-Google version.
I’m just saying I think there are reasons they haven’t done it (yet?)
I agree, I just find it very curious what those reasons are.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
If they start allowing users to install android games, Google is going to stop them from having anything useful in their play store app.
They would have to distribute it independently. Google would have no say in the matter.
what would Steam do if they started getting android-only games being submitted. Or mobile-quality games dominating their store?
…cash their checks? I don’t understand the question. That’s the point.
it might be something they’ve discussed but they would have rather focused on steam deck-type gaming for mobile.
perhaps an ARM-based steam OS+steamdeck approach would make more sense
…why not both?
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
And hows that working out for epic?
I don’t know, it’s only been around for a few months.
Valves strategy of not doing anything new in the last decade
That’s not their strategy. I mean, among other things you may have heard of this thing called the Steam Deck? Or Family Sharing? Shit there’s a new video every week about Steam Client updates and improvements.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
No, they would have to create and distribute their own app store, just like Epic.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
Ignoring the fact that Steam Link is pretty terrible and requires a high-speed local connection, native Android games.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
What would you suggest they sell on their Android store that users would be so encouraged to install a new store and then what they want?
…games?
Steam already has a store on Android
Uhhhh they have an Android app which you can use to buy and manage PC games. That’s not what I’m talking about.
because most games on steam either already exist on the native google play store
…no?
Most mobiles unlike a arm laptop, have no x86/amd64 emulator
I’m not suggesting emulation or translation (although that would be great as well), I’m suggesting an app store for selling and installing native Android games.
- Comment on Why doesn't Steam support Android? 2 days ago:
It’s a pain to get other app stores to get uptake on Android
Sure, but Steam can leverage their already-massive 132M userbase, just like Epic has (only much bigger). Put an announcement on the Steam store and client pages. Show a pop-up when someone opens the website from an Android device, etc.
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It was pretty bad, in my opinion, but still watchable. Mac just plays Mac but in a different universe.
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