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- Comment on 8<9 1 day ago:
I know what you’re thinking. “Did he die 8 times, or only seven?” Well to tell the truth, in all the confusion, I kinda lost track myself. You’ve gotta ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well, do you punk?
- Comment on Shart of The Deal 2 days ago:
I’m not saying that Trump has embraced the divine light of Allah and is doing all this to ensure that the US has to keep giving the Islamic Republic money years and years after he’s gone.
I’m just saying, he did recently tweet “Praise be to Allah.” 🤔🤔🤔
- Comment on Polymarket bet: Will Trump praise Allah again by April 15? 2 days ago:
Traditionally, America has seen itself as standing for goodness, morality, doing the right thing, Democracy, etc… Most of the voters have, at least.
That’s extremely debatable. If anything, it’s the politicians who pretend to see it that way moreso than the voters. That’s why Trump became a thing.
Now maybe America has sometimes acted like this in the past, but Trump openly stating it is new.
Sometimes??
If you want to talk about “traditionally” and “new,” that depends on what time scale you’re talking about. Like, I suppose when the US was colonizing the Philippines it was nominally in the name of “democracy” (but of course those savages aren’t ready for democracy yet, so we’ll just manage things for a bit, while we take their resources and put in a naval base), but Trump is also nominally talking about “liberating” Iran. WWII was explicitly justified in terms of protecting the national interest, rather than humanitarianism.
In the post-WWII era, some people recognized the importance of soft power in maintaining the global empire we’d acquired, and for countering Soviet narratives, so extra effort was put into these pretences. Sure, we’d still go around invading poor countries like Vietnam, committing mass slaughter and bombing them back to the stone age, but it was in the name of “democracy.” While that was happening, the CIA was also overthrowing democratically elected leaders around the world and propping up dictators who could more easily be bribed to keep the resources flowing, and we didn’t have to worry about justifying any of that because the government could just lie about it.
The problem with all this propaganda is that it kind of worked too well. People thought that committing mass slaughter of the Vietnamese and dropping Agent Orange on them and propping up a puppet dictator was all done for their benefit. And when it failed spectacularly and got a ton of people killed, a lot of people took the lesson of “we need to stop helping anyone ever again.”
That’s why when Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, he was so insistent that “this is not a nation-building exercise.” All of the early rhetoric was quite emphatic that we were not going there to help anyone or build democracy, it was just about “finding the killers.”
Low and behold, despite what the American public wanted, it did turn into a nation-building exercise. And low and behold, just like Vietnam, people didn’t appreciate us slaughtering them and bombing weddings and stealing their resources, so it was yet another failure in the “helping people” category.
As public dissatisfaction grew and grew, as the bodies stacked higher and higher, the establishment of both parties refused to bend. Trump seized on that dissisfaction and promised an alternative and received so much popular support that the Republican establishment couldn’t stop him.
Of course, Trump was merely seizing on that dissatisfaction for his own benefit as an opportunist, and the only real difference he offers is peeling away the ridiculous pretences that other politicians have paid lip service to, while doing the same shit of starting wars everywhere.
Meanwhile, the Democrats were delighted at this development because they believed there was a large contingent of center-right people who still believed in and valued these silly pretences. They were proven wrong twice. That Vietnam-Afghanistan “nation building” “spreading democracy” bullshit has clearly become discredited in the public consciousness. This is not something that’s Trump created or that will go away once he’s gone.
- Comment on Polymarket bet: Will Trump praise Allah again by April 15? 2 days ago:
“Fighting evil” what on earth are you talking about?
It’s oil. Money. It’s material resources and power. It’s always been that.
Why did the CIA go around the world deposing democratically elected leaders, including Mohammad Mossadegh of Iran, who was replaced by a literal monarch? Do you think they genuinely believed the people they were overthrowing were “evil” and the dictators they installed were not? When they invaded Vietnam and funded Pol Pot, was that about “fighting evil?”
Of course not. Democratically elected leaders are more likely to respond to the public will and thereby assert control over their own country’s resources. Tin pot dictators can easily be bought off as long as you cut them in on the exploitation. US foreign policy has never been driven by any high-minded “morality.”
Right now, we are giving weapons to the Saudi royal family so they can continue murdering gays and journalists. If such things are so horrible that our “morality” drives us to forcible invade other countries that do that in the name of “liberation,” then why don’t we start by not actively supporting the Saudis? I’ll tell you why: because the Saudis keep the damn oil flowing! That’s all the US cares about and all it’s ever cared about.
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- Comment on Back to the Epstein Files! 3 days ago:
All the other presidents: Image
- Comment on Polymarket bet: Will Trump praise Allah again by April 15? 3 days ago:
And some point they just need to cut out the middleman and start selling ad space in politicians’ speeches.
- Comment on Fake News 5 days ago:
The word “quarantine” originates from a Venetian policy that every single ship had to wait outside of port for 40 days to ensure nobody had the plague. I’m sure the antivax people would have no problem with such measures?
- Comment on Why do some people with college degrees and an education, still act so fucking stupid? 5 days ago:
When you say, “fucking stupid” is “stupidity” actually the problem? Like what, they can’t do math?
Raw brainpower is only a fraction of what’s involved in good judgement. Book knowledge is another fraction. But there’s a whole host of other factors that can influence decisions. Poor impulse control, psychological hangups, bad habits, greed, privilege, etc. That’s assuming that the education they received actually taught them how to think critically in the first place.
The vast majority of the time, when I have a problem with someone, it’s not just a matter of lacking brainpower or education. Condensing those problems down to “stupid” is, aside from any other concerns, simply inaccurate.
- Comment on Zen 1 week ago:
One time my parents pressured me to say something in Japanese to a chef at a hibachi restaurant and he replied “Oh, was that Japanese? I’m from New York.” I wanted to die.
- Comment on Me watching someone on Lemmy getting cooked for having the same opinion as me: 1 week ago:
Lol, wtf is “westsplaining?”
The point is that there’s no such thing as a “tankie bar” because “tankies” aren’t bigots who drive away marginalized people the way Nazis do. We have similar demographics to Reddit since most people come from there. If there’s anyone driving off minorities, it’s the liberals bringing their prejudices and not the “tankies” who created the space.
- Comment on meow 1 week ago:
The more it drops, the more iconic the song becomes.
- Comment on Weird... 1 week ago:
More like Charlie Kirk remains still silent on the Iran War gottem
- Comment on Me watching someone on Lemmy getting cooked for having the same opinion as me: 1 week ago:
This person catches bans from feddit.org for being too zionist, if you’re far enough right, every instance is a “tankie” instance.
- Comment on Me watching someone on Lemmy getting cooked for having the same opinion as me: 1 week ago:
A “tankie bar” is a place that runs off all the bigots, imperialists, zionists, etc until the only people who feel safe are a diverse community of marginalized people and their allies.
- Comment on The Art of the Deal 2 weeks ago:
Bold of you to assume they don’t see France as an enemy.
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
Driving requires you to be constantly alert, and if you screw up or don’t react fast enough, you can straight up die because of it. On a bus, you can be on your phone, read a book, take a nap, whatever. Driving is a much worse experience and even if public transit takes more time, that’s time that can be used doing things. That’s before factoring the cost (the car itself, gas, insurance), the environmental impact, parking, etc.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
Yeah, I know what you were referring to. That’s not a “lecture.”
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
they begin to seriously lecture me about how there is no evidence that cookies make people explode
No one “seriously lectured you” on that.
I’m going to assume there is something mentally wrong with them.
You assume everyone who disagre with you (and many who do agree with you) has something mentally wrong with them. It’s a common symptom of people who think they’re smarter than they actually are.
It’s like a Twilight Zone episode.
Hmm, I’m not sure what that would look like. “In a world… where someone criticizes people for getting vaccinated… people treat that person as being anti-vaccine.” Not exactly a twist.
Dang. I feel like I’m in an I Think You Should leave skit.
Lol, yes, you do seem like someone from an I Think You Should Leave skit.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
They do. Most people are not as irrational and simple as you are
You keep insisting this but it’s not true. No one except you and the bots are getting confused about this.
Lmao! Yes, I suppose if you simply label all the people who interpret your comment a certain way as “bots” then you can say that anything means anything!
Yes. It is. If you pretend to be a Nazi and spread Nazi propaganda, you are a Nazi. That’s what Mother Night is all about.
Either you misunderstand, or you’re pretending to misunderstand.
If I go around talking shit about people who accept the consensus view on the Holocaust, if I call them all sheep who just believe whatever they’re told, and then I say that actually I accept the consensus view, but it’s because I’m rational and researched it myself, I do not get to hide behind that last part to excuse the first part. If I pretend I didn’t rob a bank, that doesn’t make me not a bank robber. You’re trying to twist Voggnaut’s message around to justify dishonesty.
Again, I’m caught between the two possibilities. Either you’re a pretentious narcissist who thinks you’re way smarter than you actually are (and everybody else) and are quoting Voggunaut to sound smart, or you’re deliberately trolling and throwing that out to muddle the facts.
I’m not doing that. That’s all in your head, pal.
Oh really! So the part where you had that whole rant about “Regulations are written in blood,” that was all in my head, was it? The parts where you’ve repeatedly attacked “political hobbyists” for getting the vaccine, those were also all in my head? The parts where you’ve called me “psychotic” and a “lunatic” for being pro-vaccine, again, all in my head?
Fuck right the hell off with your trolling and your attempts to spread doubt.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
I’m not though because the vast majority of people are not political hobbyists and they, like me, did not get the vaccine because it was fashionable. They got it because it was reasonable
That was absolutely not the impression anyone would get from reading your initial comment.
Even if I’m pretending to encourage people to get vaccinated, it is still encouraging people to get vaccinated. You are who you pretend to be.
Lol that’s not how that works. You’re actively sowing confusion and doubt and attacking people for being pro-vaccine, and then you defend this behavior by saying you’re actually pro-vaccine. I don’t mind the part where you say you’re pro-vaccine. I mind the other part.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
Oh come on, you have to be less obvious when you troll!
Yes, I’m sure bashing everyone else who got the vaccine as a brainwashed hypocrite who’s just following trends is the way to encourage more people to get the vaccine. Yes, what a “rational” response to assert that you’re the only person who got it for rational reasons and that everyone else is an idiot.
Come on, you know as well as I do that none of your comments from the very beginning have been about encouraging anyone to get vaccinated. At best it’s about trying to feel superior to everyone. At worst it’s trying to pick a fight and spread confusion and doubt.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
And you’re calling me a lunatic on the basis that I’m pro-vaccine, the position that you claim to hold.
You’re just a troll trying to stir up drama. That’s all you are, 100%.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
See, you’re doing it again right now. You’re playing this game of criticizing people for getting the vaccine, attacking motives, while giving yourself plausible deniability by saying that you got it because it was rational.
How do you know that I and other people did not also get it because it was rational? Why do you even care why people got it? If it’s the rational choice, you should be glad that it was “fashionable.”
I guess this does open up another possible interpretation, which is that you’re a narcissist who just assumes everyone else is stupid even when they’re making the same decision as you and feel this need to present yourself as better than everyone else. I’m not sure whether that’s better or worse than simply trolling. You’re a complete, absolute dickhead who’s poisoning the well either way.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
I wish I was a bot so I wouldn’t have to worry about the diseases you’re gonna spread with your idiotic troll shit.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
But it surprised me that the crowd that are terrified of Forever Chemcalz, atomz, BPA, microplastics and frequently scream “Regulations are written in blood!” were chomping at the bit to force everyone to get injected with a product from Big Pharma that was fast tracked and bypassed all normal regulations to get to market as soon as possible by the executive orders of a billionaire president they despised.
That sounds a hell of a lot like criticizing pro-vaccine people as hypocrites because we’re supposedly the same group that scream “Regulations are written in blood.”
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
I made a joke about the possibility that vaccines could cause people to explode and they’re taking it at face value.
Nobody took it at face value, you lying troll.
bots bots bots bots bots bots bots
The fact that we don’t put up with your troll shit doesn’t make us bots.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
The way you troll is by saying more people should be antivax and then explaining (once pressed) that you’re actually pro-vaccine and just want them to be internally consistent with principles they don’t actually hold.
You’re not being clever with this shit, you’re just helping to poison the well.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
So you can’t name a single notable figure.
“Google it” is that the standard now? All that shows it that some random people on the internet say it. It doesn’t prove that those people are the same ones who support regulations regarding vaccines. It also doesn’t show that it represents any real meaningful movement.
It’s be like if I said, “Why do so many people scream ‘taxation is theft’ and then support burglery?” and when someone asks, “Do they support burglery? Who?” I respond, “Just Google it and you’ll see lots of people saying that phrase.”
You’re just a troll. And one of the worst kinds of trolls, someone who trolls about vaccines. Your stupid little games get people killed.
- Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other. 3 weeks ago:
For me, if evidence pops up years down the road that it has a statistically increased chance of causing cancer or whatever, it’s no big deal
So you’re just a troll. “Why don’t more people adopt an unreasonable position?”
There were/are plenty of antivax hippie types. You seem to be trying to lump everyone on the left as being on the same page as them. Who are all these people screaming “regulations are written in blood,” at you? I’ve never heard the phrase in my life. Apparently this represents so broad cultural movement? Can you name some notable public figures who oppose all regulations except when it comes to vaccines?
Or are you just pulling all of this out of your ass to troll?
