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- Comment on "No eating for free allowed! You must only watch it rot on the beach!" 1 week ago:
- Comment on for a better future for ur children 1 week ago:
That’s actually a statistical error, Carbon Bezos is an outlier who should not have been counted.
- Comment on all the proof i need 1 week ago:
The fediverse’s favorite is proof by shaming: Asking for proof means you’re a bad person who doesn’t deserve proof.
- Comment on for a better future for ur children 1 week ago:
To quote Carlin, “The earth doesn’t share our prejudice against plastic… The planet is fine. The people are fucked.”
- Comment on for a better future for ur children 1 week ago:
Bombs are not environmentally friendly.
- Comment on "No eating for free allowed! You must only watch it rot on the beach!" 1 week ago:
The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.
- Comment on If WW3 breaks out, who is going to be on which side? 1 week ago:
If WWIII breaks out we’re all gonna fucking die. Will there be any countries left after 24 hours?
- Comment on Why do .ml users get a bad rep? 1 week ago:
By that logic, you don’t even need to know my stance on Russia, because the fact that I opposed the war in Afghanistan “proves I’m not anti-imperialist.” The Taliban definitely isn’t socialist either, after all.
- Comment on Why do .ml users get a bad rep? 1 week ago:
I’m saying it’s wild you promote it as AES when it fucking isn’t.
And I’m saying no one considers Russia to be AES, it’s a strawman that libs tell each other about us until they forget they made it up.
- Comment on Why do .ml users get a bad rep? 1 week ago:
If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
- Comment on Why do .ml users get a bad rep? 1 week ago:
It’s only baffling if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist, regardless of how many people say otherwise.
- Comment on Caption this. 1 week ago:
“This is just natural free market competition. The real problem is big government trying to impose restrictions on Hawk Inc.”
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
“Look, I don’t like this any more than you do, but as long as billionaire perverts exist, there’s going to be demand for secret pedophile islands, and somebody’s gonna have to traffic kids to them. I’m just trying to get that bag.
I feel like you’re being very childish about this.”
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Yeah, this is why I became a hitman.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Yes, that is more or less correct. My problem is primarily with US weapons manufacturing and military spending. If it could not be shut down entirely, then, all else being equal, it would be preferable for it to be offshored to Europe, or anywhere else, to keep as much as possible out of the hands of the increasingly fascist and beligerant US.
In most cases, the main enemy of a poor person of a given country is a rich person of the same country. I believe in following my class interest, not some “national interest” that’s typically completely divorced from my own, if not actively detrimental to it. I have no interest in upholding or protecting that “national interest,” that “national interest” is really bourgeois interest and the bourgeoisie are more than capable of looking after it themselves.
There are some exceptions, however. Franz Fanon, for example, argued that in developing countries, the gap between the domestic rich and poor is outweighed by the international gap, such that a class truce may be acceptable to resist foreign colonizers. Likewise, the CCP was willing to form a temporary alliance with the KMT in order to repel the fascist Japanese. The USSR opposed strikes in the US during WWII because those strikes would have impaired the war effort against the Nazis.
These exceptions to the general rule of class war only apply when there is a significant, genuine threat to the average person, when the foreign threat is intent on outright extermination. If it’s merely trading one set of capitalists for another, then it is not my fight and none of my concern.
Typically, anything that benefits the bourgeoisie, that benefits the so-called “national interest,” is bad for me, even if it doesn’t harm me directly. Because the more money and resources the bourgeoisie possess, the more power they will be able to wield against me, lowering my wages, making me work longer hours, taking away my healthcare and security. All of these things they are more capable of when they have money, weapons, and resources acquired through imperialist conquest.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
This is the most this clip thing I have ever read in my life.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
That’s complete nonsense.
You’re saying, “a just society would need engineers to build weapons, to be used for defense, therefore, it is right for engineers to build weapons in an unjust society where they will be used for offense.” That does not follow at all. That’s like seeing a car stalled out in the middle of an intersection and saying, “A functional intersection would need me to go when the light is green, therefore, I should keep driving forward. The problem is the car in the intersection, someone needs to fix that, and I don’t need to change my behavior even if it’s going to lead to people dying, because I’m acting in a way that would be appropriate in a functioning intersection.”
That’s not how morality, reason, or anything else works. You have to look at the world as it actually exists and look at the predictable consequences of your actions in the actually existing world.
Again, I will return to the unanswered point from before, about how far you’re willing to extend this line of logic, whether you think it was morally neutral to manfacture Panzers and Zyklon B for the Nazis.
Your position is completely indefensible and untenable. You called me childish, when you’re refusing to acknowledge and adapt to the real world.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
The fewer weapons that people make for them, the fewer weapons they will have that they can use to kill brown people with. Therefore there is a clear line of cause an effect between making weapons for them and brown people dying. Therefore, the people making those weapons have caused harm, and would deserve to go to Hell if it existed.
This is all very straightforward, I still have no idea what you’re confused aboout.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
The fewer guns they have the fewer brown people they’re able to kill. Obviously.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
I have literally no idea what kind of point you think you’re making.
Yes, reducing spending would not completely eliminate the harm. It would only, you know, reduce it. Since you said you don’t like the idea of cutting it too much, I suggested a reasonable compromise of merely reducing it by 2/3, to be “only” the most well funded military on the planet.
To actually eliminate all the harm altogether would require either a complete shutdown of US military production or a fundamental shift in US foreign policy away from terrorism and domination, which would hopefully involve prosecuting the politicians responsible for current foreign policy for war crimes. Probably in some sort of revolutionary tribunal, because that’s about the only conceivable way for them to be brought to justice.
I’m not sure what part of that you’re confused about.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
True, these people will not face justice through any natural force of the universe, only by people holding them accountable for the harm they cause.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Maybe you should set yourself on fire then.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Ok, Mr. Hitler, I’ll give you this truckload of bombs, but you have to pinky promise that you won’t drop them on Britain.
Dangit, he dropped them on Britain, didn’t he? Oh well, not my fault. Guess I’ll go get him another truckload of bombs, he’ll be needing them now.
-The average day of a Lockheed Martin employee
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Building the SUV would be more ethical though.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Why should we demand countries that are only spending 1/3 of what we spend disarm? No, let’s focus on having the most militaristic country in the world, the one that spends as much as the next 9 countries combined, on having that country reduce spending and stop trying to dominate the entire world through military force.
And then we can spend some of that money on giving me health insurance! Everybody wins! Well, except for the corporate executives and their chauvanistic bootlickers.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
It’s up to politicians to decide how to use those weapons, not engineers.
Exactly how far does this extend? Because a lot of people involved in supporting the Nazi war effort said the exact same thing.
If you go around solving every problem you’re asked to with no concern for who’s asking or why, that’s how you wind up developing Zyklon B
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
If we cut back that much, then we wouldn’t be able to fuel nearly as much death and destruction around the globe. But, not to worry, I’m sure we could still find enough evil to do to both satisfy your desire for blood and to earn the people responsible a cozy little spot in Hell, yes.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
Thank you for your service.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 2 weeks ago:
How about we split the difference and only cut two thirds of all military spending? We would still be pouring more money into it than any country on earth.
- Comment on Radon 4 weeks ago:
Maybe they should leak the tech so that everyone’s missiles can be more accurate and have less collateral damage. Giving missile targeting systems to, say, Al Qaida is ethical, actually? 🤔
