I live in a Scandinavian cpuntry. 6 weeks off with pay is alright. Dont really need more at this point.
Great plan
Submitted 3 weeks ago by LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to memes@sopuli.xyz
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cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Almacca@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Fuck that. Take as much time off as you can get.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah thats how you break socialism. Take as much as you need not as much as you can take
TehBamski@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cries in United States
lambipapp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Am Swede. I have a legal 25. Then my company gives me +5, and the Union has negotiated 9 more (ark) and then, this year, my boss gave me 5 more. So I know that I am far above the average in sweden, but I currently sit on 44 paid vacation days a year
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nah dawg.
We’re all going to work until we’re so old that when we retire we don’t get to enjoy what’s left of our lives. Instead we’ll get to experience non-stop health problems, hospital visits, surgeries, daily pill schedules you can’t skip or you die, and general exhaustion.
Literally happening to both my parents exactly like this.
And that’s if you even make it to retirement, which I’ve personally witnessed a few people not do.
It’s a scam y’all. Dipshits floating around on yachts while we die working. Wanna fix it all? Gotta get together, hold hands, and have a general strike until our demands are met. Totally possible, but not going to happen.
EldenLord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gotta get together
This is it. This is literally the secret behind which Utopia is sealed. There are so, so many decent, empathetic, moral humans that we could easily banish the narcisstic, malevolent dipshits that make earth hell from our society.
Problem: even “good” humans have their flaws baked into their genes and brains, we are far too easily swept up into a a “us vs. them” dynamic. The only way of fixing this is to manually control your emotional behaviour and correct yourself constantly. Don‘t exhaust yourself with that, but try to remember what you really value before becoming a puppet for people with bad interests.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I don’t expect to retire.
I’ll probably be found at my desk on a Monday, not even first thing, but like, at 11:45, after dying there sometime Friday afternoon, and people just thought I was “working late” and left for the weekend, while I’m a literal corpse.
Whatever. I’m over it. I won’t have any fucks left to give when that happens because I won’t be alive to give any fucks.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 weeks ago
The Economy* demands that you sacrifice yourself.
*Really the rich parasites demand it.
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I worry that even if everything was right in my life it still wouldn’t be enough. Passion has become so rare.
darcranium123@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Universal basic income could help us achieve this. There are people working right now to make this a reality in America
Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There was a time back when this was possible.
Bikers back in the day would work construction or some other hard labor for half the year and then hit the road for 2-4 months.
The partial working income was enough to cover all thier bills, the bike/gear, motel stays and drinking.
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People still do this. I have a buddy who only works 3-4 months a year. Hes a pipeline welder so long hours and hard work, but then he travels around the rest of the time
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
the retirement goal is to be a year round camp host for the park system. I’d say national park, but my favorite is a state park and i don’t expect the US national park system to exist in, uh, carry the two, 2065 when I am finally allowed to either die or retire.
blarghly@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I kind of do this. I high rig for concerts in the summer, then fuck off the rest of the year.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
In controlled environments, maybe — however those controlled environments still interact with currently established economies.
I’m just not convinced that UBI scaled up will actually result in anything other than what takes place in the Expanse.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They stole our data to train AI. So, if in the future that robots displaced the vast majority of jobs, then tax the robots to fund UBI.
underline960@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think it’s less the interaction with currently established economies and more that it would never pass without
lobbyistsCongressmen sabotaging the law to make it fail and then using that to say, “See!? UBI doesn’t work(when you set it up to fail)!”
lemmebee@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Got laid off a couple of weeks ago, been chilling with my 6 and 9 year old niece and nephew, good to the beach/pool everyday. It’s heaven (need to get a job though).
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I have 7 weeks of paid leave yearly to use as I please, however, my autism makes taking more than two weeks of pause together a struggle. I need my routines, even the work one. I found that taking small breaks of 2-3 days often (save for the 2 weeks I take in summer) works much better for me than taking a long pause. Longer pauses screw with my routines and they are actually worse and more draining than small and frequent pauses.
Of course this is because I have to work, if work weren’t a necessity, I’d be perfectly well without it because I’d create routines to occupy the time I spend working.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I retired 25 yrs ago and it’s still not enough time to do all the stuff…3 months a year won’t cut it 😁 Gaming alone takes a lot of time lol
smol_beans@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
:Cries in American while being laughed at by Spain and France:
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
as another user in the comments here put it quite well:
we shouldn’t be laughing at the people in the US just because we’re fucked in the ass with slightly more lube.
space@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
We shouldn’t be limited to a summer break we should do seasonal breaks instead. I would cover the summer season if someone else would cover my autumn or winter.
blindsight@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Actually, no. Not according to the research. (Which I can’t find right now; just in a quick break.)
Essentially, somewhere (?) had the whole region take vacation at the same time, if possible. (Not essential services and obviously vacation businesses, lol). They found much greater benefits when there’s a large chunk of the population all off at the same time, and makes everyone happier (even those who have to still work).
They think the reasons are twofold:
- We’re social creatures, and being able to connect with people meaningfully depends on them also being available at the same time.
- When the region is on “vacation”, everyone gets more relaxed/chill, even those who are still working. Basically “vibes”. (They were a lot more technical in the study, lol).
Sorry I can’t link it, but something like “everyone who can be is off from July 15-August 15” would have big societal benefits.
Almacca@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
We could have that and more, but the shareholders don’t approve.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
It would risk “our” wealth.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
think of the economy! /s
DemandtheOxfordComma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
This or 4 day work weeks. One or the other, or I’ll do nothing and just accept it.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
4 day work weeks or 52 vacation days per year as a minimum. You can either take one day a week and only work 4 days each week, or save them up and take a 10 week vacation.
Psythik@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One thing I miss about working at Amazon was not only the 4 day work weeks, but the fact that they handed out PTO so generously that you could literally call off one day every single week (or sleep in and come in late every single day, which is what I did), and it was absolutely fine.
But unfortunately I had to leave cause I got tired of the thermostat being set to 83°F, and the management who wouldn’t lift a finger for anybody. Still, not the worst place in the world to work. You can just put on your headphones, load up a playlist of podcasts, and zone out for your entire shift. Not having to go through an interview process is nice too. Just show up, take a picture, spit on a sponge (they don’t drug test for weed), and you’re hired.
xtools@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
i take 6 weeks of unpaid leave every year, additionally to my 5 weeks of paid leave. i can only recommend it.
Pringles@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
There are not many employers that allow that in my experience.
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There aren’t many people I know who can afford it, in mine
1yjgjmmt5988@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Norway is basically shut down for most of July 👌
kerf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hey neighbor! Sweden too, need a few weeks to find that one sunny summer day
1yjgjmmt5988@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Summer is the nicest day in Norway 😄
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
You’d have a revolution on your hands if hard working people suddenly realized what they were missing when the 3-month vacation is denied them the next year.
TehBamski@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I can only hope that the US goes through a revolution in the near future. I’m so tired of hearing about how poorly treated we are compared to other countries around the world. American #1 my ass. The things that the US ranks high in are considered the worst things to be highly ranked in. (Unless you’re a lunatic, dictator, oligarchy at wits’ end, etc.
Aliktren@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So… become france
atlien51@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Corporate: not a chance in hell. You’re lucky you get annual leave at all, if it wasn’t mandated by law you’d never get that either.
blarghly@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hot take: tons of office jobs are super reasonable. Small to mid sized companies that don’t do anything particularly exciting, where you can find a position where you play an important role in the company but someone else can take on the work you normally do when needed, or the work you do only needs to be done at certain times of the year. You can talk directly to the owner, or managers have leeway to handle employees schedules without a ton of oversight.
Talk to whoever you need to. Explain how time off is more important to you than pay, and how the company will still do well when you take extended time off. It goes 1 of 3 ways. They agree immediately - win. They want proof that your idea will work - so prove it will work, then win. Or they outright refuse or fire you, in which case you find somewhere else to work and try again until you win.
atlien51@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yeah idk what jobs you’re talking about…every time I see posts from people complaining (rightfully) about the office environment it’s from big companies.
Small to mid: small company , small salary. And like…tiny progression opportunities lol. I genuinely don’t see how these would be better at all than corpos, bc a lot of small companies try to cram multiple jobs into one too bc they usually can’t afford to hire as many people as they’d like. Rare companies like what you described do exist though, just…v rare
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Haha, nah, annual leave isn’t required by law in my country…
kungfuratte@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I’m more for mandatory winter sleep.
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Just implement both and let people choose between them.
Defectus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe if there were some way to organize and make demands against the employer.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yep, this is the great adjustment ameica needs.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Still just posting whatever to meme communities, eh?
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
You're welcome 😊
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If no one works summer how will Waffle House stay open
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
When people say “no one works” they always still want some people to work.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I’d be willing to work 14 hours a week voluntarily if i didn’t have other responsibilities.
voldage@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
General strike lets gooo
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There’s enough people and money in the world that everyone could take 6 months off and we’d still maintain 90s levels of productivity.
I’d be fine with that.
chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Who should tell the farm workers?
rumba@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Who should tell the farm workers?
Let the migrant labor let them know, they’ll keep the farm going while they’re out for an extra 10% for the month.
Wait, The CALLED ICE?
smol_beans@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Farmwork goes in seasons
chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
You don’t say?!! Is summer an important farming season?
moonbunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I feel this so much. I just want to have a few consecutive months off in a row and then I’ll be good to go for the rest of the year
TehBamski@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Our European counterparts are laughing at us, who don’t take a month off every year. And for some reason, this is how I see them doing so.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Eh. In practice, we’re fairly abused as well. I may have more holidays than my US counterparts, but in reality I can only take vacation when the schedule of the company allows it, which is never more than a week at a time at best and like three days in a row realistically.
Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Depends on a country of course yeah, my home country has a law that forces us to use continuous, uninterrupted, 3 week vacation in a year.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
That seems to be highly dependent on location…we also have to coordinate with the needs of the company where i live, however we are still entitled to minimum 3 weeks vacation during summer (june-august) and at least two of them back to back regardless of the needs of the company.
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
In my country you get almost 1 month of vacation time with extra days depending on work (I work Saturdays too so I get extra 4 days because of it) of which it’s actually mandatory that you take 2 weeks in one go so you really unplug yourself from work. The rest is as you please.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I’m not really a Marxist but I do believe in “Workers of the world, unite!” and that includes Yankees. Laughing at your misfortune because I’m getting fucked with slightly more lube would be kinda short sighted.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
i should not have laughed so hard at that.
neo2478@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I am indeed laughing exactly like that