Kotaku being Kotaku

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At this point I’m going to Ladbrokes and betting against everything Kotaku promotes. They are like Jim Cramer of the gaming industry.

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pyrflie@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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- bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I had a conversation with my sister about that recently.
  
  The amount of shows and movies that have $100,000,000+ budgets is rising, yet half of them feature very limited sets, small casts of mid range talent, and a dozen executive producers all putting up their own money.
  
  Here’s my comparison: a group of 10 investors come out and announce they’re spending a billion dollars to develop a new luxury car. They drum it up as being the next big thing. Then, when it comes out, it’s about as nice and luxurious as a base model Toyota Camry. Fine, but not “a billion dollars” fine. Immediately, everyone would be wondering where the hell that money went? There’s definitely a chance it was just squandered, but you have to wonder. When you have a group of private investors with executive power over the project, what goes on behind closed doors?
  
  For all we know, they’re literally just passing massive checks in a circle to one another to say “yes, it says right here in our bank records that we spent a combined $100,000,000”, meanwhile only 25% actually goes into the production, and they pocket the rest. Then, when the flock of people have to come and check out the new megaproject, all they need to recoup is a few million more than they spent (far less than the perceived budget), and they can run for the hills.
  
  Anywho, crackpot theory time over. But think about it, if my simple brain can think this stuff up, why can’t the hollywood bigwigs, who actually have the capital to make it happen?
  
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  - BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It gets better, because all the money they “lost” on a movie they can also write off. Oops, we didn’t make any money this year because we put out 10 billion dollar movies and only made 10 million at the box office. Tax break please!
    
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  - theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    For all we know, they’re literally just passing massive checks in a circle to one another to say “yes, it says right here in our bank records that we spent a combined $100,000,000”, meanwhile only 25% actually goes into the production, and they pocket the rest.
    
    That would be illegal and easily discovered
    
    But you could pay $10M to hire another company to do the sound mixing. They might spend $500k to do the work. You might also be the owner of that company, and the money ends up back in your pocket…And that’s not embezzlement or a kickback, because that’s what it’s called when poor people do it
    
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- intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What the fuck are you talking about?
  
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thesmokingman@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The most frustrating thing about this article is that it completely ignores that good movies targeted at kids still have to be good. Personal complaints aside, the new Mario movie was reasonably good for adults and great for kids. Pixar keeps churning out things that are fantastic on many levels. Bluey is an amazing show that can resonate with kids and parents. I don’t for a minute buy the elitist bullshit of “well you’re not a kid so you can’t comment.” Muppet Treasure Island holds the fuck up as an adult so this writer can fuck right off.

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- jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What’s also weird is Minecraft is 15 years old at this point. That means you’ve basically got a huge age range (kids to adults) within the target audience. Why isn’t it targeted at the entire fanbase?
  
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  - FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Adults were fans of Minecraft when it came out since there was really no other sandbox game like it at the time. There were precious few sandbox games at the time period.
    
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  - Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Why isn’t it targeted at the entire fanbase?
    
    Is that a serious question? Because the answer is obvious…
    
    Ok, let me start out by saying I have an 8 year old, and he fucking loves Minecraft. And hey, I played the game a bunch back when it was in beta and I was like 25. But I did not love the game the way that he loves the game… He’s obsessive about Minecraft, some days it’s all he talks about. How many adults do you know like that?
    
    And here’s the real question, when’s the last time you bought Minecraft merch for yourself? Because my kid has a Minecraft lunchbox, a Minecraft hoody, a Minecraft Lego set, some Minecraft figurines, and of course the Minecraft sheets and PJs.
    
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- FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “The Writer” is most likely chatgpt. Pretty sure most of these low effort shit gaming/movie articles are AI written at thid point.
  
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- Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yes a thousand percent. You can entertain young children by showing a dancing clown on a colorful flashing screen for 3 hours straight. Kids will love it. But that doesn’t make it a good movie.
  
  A good kids movie is not a movie that appeals to kids. It’s a good movie that also appeals to kids.
  
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- helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I never watched any of those shows, but I remember watching SpongeBob and seeing how it was full of many types of humor, some of it adult but also presented in a way that kids just wouldn’t understand. So there was “something for everyone” and part of why it was so popular/successful.
  
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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Personal complaints aside, the new Mario movie was reasonably good for adults and great for kids.
  
  It was mid, until Jack Black’s Bowser hit the screen, and then it was top notch. He absolutely carried that film.
  
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- gerbler@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Hear hear. Soul was a great movie because it was fun for kids but spoke to adults. Pixar does that a lot. A good kids movie is just a good movie that’s appropriate for children. Sure you can feed kids entertainment slop and it might even make bank but if you’re trying to make a film and not just a vehicle for the line to go up then slop is not it.
  
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anonymous111@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve been playing Minecraft off and on since the Beta. I usually play the “All the mods” packs when they launch.

I do not understand how people get so emotionally invested in an IP.

If it isn’t a good movie who cares? Just spend your time doing something else.

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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Can’t speak for everyone, but the reason that I care when one of my favorite IPs has a terrible movie, is because the terrible movie ensures that a good one will never be made.
  
  They did a great job with Fallout, and now they are making a second season.
  
  Then there’s Borderlands.
  
  I still haven’t seen it, but I already know that the Borderlands movie I would have loved will never exist.
  
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  - Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    And in some cases, the IP getting a shit movie or show can tell the game developers “well, time to drop the entire brand for 15 years”.
    
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  - otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    the terrible movie ensures that a good one will never be made.
    
    Super Mario Bros got another movie.
    
    But generally, video games don’t usually work as movies. So it isn’t that big of a loss, lol
    
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  - anonymous111@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Why do you need a Minecraft movie in your life though?
    
    Personally, I don’t need the things I like to be cross format.
    
    If it works as a movie, great.
    
    If it is never made, no problem.
    
    If it fails, meh.
    
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  - ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    the Borderlands movie I would have loved will never exist.
    
    For me it’s Monster Hunter. I refuse to watch the one they made a few years ago. I wonder if there’s a supercut of only scenes that feature the monsters. Or anything involving the Charge Blade.
    
    After reading the synopsis, why tf did they have to make it an isekai?
    
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  - the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    at least you have the excellent ‘tales from the borderlands’ to play. I like to replay that ‘movie’ every year.
    
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  - manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I made it about as far into the Borderlands movie as i did with the monsterhunter movie, bailing after about a 3rd of the film.
    
    Not really super popular take, but the sexual politics (as in the way the story treated women) in both were something I struggled to get past. Plus they were both goofy and not in a very fun way.
    
    But i think i teenager might have liked it
    
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- theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Just reiterating what others have said but… if you have an IP you like and want more of it in the future (regardless of medium!) then its success in any other medium will likely impact whether or not you get more.
  
  Unfortunately, we live in a world where:
  
  Money matters more to most IP holders than the IP itself
  
  New IP is seen as risky
  
  Those in charge don’t have to take responsibility for their failures
  
  If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred. As a result, priorities will often shift away from the IP to something else in all mediums (ex. ASOIAF/GOT). Unless the IP is absolutely gangbusters in all other mediums, it will suffer. Similarly, success will likely lead to more utilization of the IP in any medium.
  
  It’s unlikely that the IP owner will sell or license the IP in the near future because at one point it was popular and new IP is hard to make. It would be better to hoard IP and maybe try again in a decade when they need a trick up their sleeve. Plus, another failure might damage the IP even more.
  
  Admittedly, I’m not attached to any brands or IP in particular and so I’m not invested really. I just makes me a little sad when some IP I thought well of has this happen… or when the person who benefits from the IP turns out to be a person I’d rather not give money to. Occasionally I’ll ponder what might have been if things had gone differently and feel a little bad.
  
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  - VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred.
    
    For example, when EA released Tiberian Twilight and it was absolutely awful and didn’t sell, they said that people just didn’t want RTS games anymore and shelved the entire C&C franchise. That was fourteen years ago and we haven’t had a new C&C since then that wasn’t mobile shovelware.
    
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  - anonymous111@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Good points, well put.
    
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  - Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This is just one of the many reasons why our current IP laws are comolete and utter garbage.
    
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- Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m not like, attending a protest rally or anything. I think it’s perfectly fine to spend literally 7 minutes of my day telling people that this movie is shit.
  
  You “no one should ever express disagreement with anything” people need to chill.
  
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- GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Lol people don’t know how to build a personality that isn’t built out of stuff.
  
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FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Are you guys surprised and angry that this generic movie for children isn’t for you, or am I missing some context here?

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- CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Why can’t the movie be for everyone like the game is? Why make it purposefully empty and soulless so only small children with a short attention span can enjoy it? Take some notes from the Lego movie. It’s not that hard.
  
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  - 60fpsrefugee@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    For one, it is easier/cheaper to make that instead of a good, enjoyable movie.
    
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  - UprisingVoltage@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The mario movie was also good in my opinion. I enjoyed it and it did not feel like a cringefest at all (which I wish I could say about Minecraft’s trailer)
    
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- gap_betweenus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The idea that children don’t deserve good media is kind of wild to me.
  
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  - otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    A good movie for kids can be boring for adults sometimes.
    
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- Moghul@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Do kids movies have to be stupid and vapid? This looks completely soulless.
  
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- BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Why even bother making good movies, when children also watch elsa getting spiderman pregnant?
  
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  - Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Trust me that’s way better than what kids are watching nowadays on yt shorts. That content should seriously be investigated for permanent/temporary brain damage.
    
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- Aielman15@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The fact that capital-G Gamers are still hell-bent on the GamerGate-era Kotaku war is deeply amusing to me.
  
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  - DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sir, this is a good Pastafarian server, pls censor that filth. The childrens eyes can’t handle the raw sewage that is the word g*mer.
    
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  - RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This is exactly what someone who works at or has friends that work at Kotaku would say.
    
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  - GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    G*mers should have been bullied more.
    
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  - Crismus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It really bugs me how every scandal co-ops the -gate from the Watergate scandal to try to give it more legitimacy.
    
    The Hotel was the Watergate Hotel. There is no gate in Kotaku or Gamer. Just another fundamental ignorance of reality the media has come to.
    
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  - KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sorry but Kotaku has always been 100% garbage, either bad writing, way behind the news, or both at the same time.
    
    Except if its labor related, they immediately remember how to write.
    
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  - Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve been scrolling through the comments to see the reaction to this trailer and this is the only comment that made me legit cringe.
    
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- mods_mum@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What does one have to do with the other? Snow white is also a story for children and yet adults can still be disappointed about the upcoming remake. Are you suggesting we can’t criticise content for kids? If yes then why?
  
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  - FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Criticise whatever you want, but your post is just a screenshot of a headline presented without context so I’m not even sure why you’re upset
    
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- sirico@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But we got live action Mortal Kombat…oh
  
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  - peetabix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I thought the first move was great. I viewed it as an action comedy.
    
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- cheers_queers@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  i would personally love a Portal movie going into all the lore, since there isn’t too much of that in the games. IDK, call it Portal 3? lol
  
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- gerbler@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You don’t think House of the Dead was a cinematic masterpiece? Tsk tsk! Poor taste I say!
  
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Jolteon@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I mean, if you’re going to make a movie based on a video game, shouldn’t you aim it at The demographics that most commonly played that video game?

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- BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You mean 5-12 year olds? Cause that’s what they did
  
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  - Jolteon@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I feel like Minecraft has kind of lagged in popularity with the current crop of 5 to 12-year-olds compared to some of the newer games, like Roblox.
    
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  - angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Minecraft is mostly popular with people who were 5 - 12 years old 10 years ago.
    
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  - buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes cause 5 to 12-year-olds are the only people who play Minecraft. Nobody over the age of 12 plays Minecraft at all and there aren’t millions of Minecraft players out there that are anywhere from 12 to 70 years old.
    
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  - Sethayy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If were going average or median I would be genuinely surprised if it was under 20 ngl.
    
    They advertise to kids cause kids and adults buy it then, advertise to adults and youre just cutting off part of your market - companies aren’t so super sterilised these days cause today’s youth are just super loaded
    
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KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
“The Borderlands movie isn’t meant for you.”

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- edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Apparently it wasn’t. I don’t remember where I saw it, I think maybe a Kyle Bosman video, but Gearbox/Randy Pitchford basically said they made the movie to pull in people who hadn’t played the games.
  
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  - KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve said this before: Randy Pitchford isn’t very smart.
    
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  - HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    So, people who would have no interest in seeing the world of Borederlands adapted to a new medium?
    
    “Hey guys, wanna buy my new Indiana Jones game? It’s meant for people who don’t like Indiana Jones, or games for that matter… What no? Why not”
    
    (Note: The new Jones game actually looks good, it was just the first IP to come to mind)
    
    These people do realize that the Mario movie had an entire segment dedicated to Mario Kart, which is like… the most popular Switch Game right? And the Sonic movies stayed true to the characters and had tons of little easter eggs for Sonic fans, even had some comic book tie-ins for the movie?
    
    Just saying, when you cater to fans, fans will buy a product and show it to their friends and family saying “Oh hey, you know I’m a big fan of X. Well this is a good entry point for it if you wanna see what it’s like.”
    
    Seriously I got a friend of mine who “Was too old for video games when Sonic came out” but had “Seen some fanart here and there he enjoyed” (I’m a furry, inter-generational friendships are kinda normal in that fanbase), but he saw the Sonic movie on my recommendation and it had him asking me for recommendations… Before I knew it he had purchased Sonic Adventure DX on Steam to learn more about Tails and Knuckles’ characters to get ready for the second movie, and Sonic Generations as well to get a quick run through of the hedgehog’s history in general.
    
    This is a Catholic father who’s always busy with work, his kid, and his faith, but he found the time to love that Hedgehog.
    
    What I’m saying is, if you’re good to your fans, they’ll be good to you, and if people see a happy crowd they’ll want to join that happy crowd. Love makes the world go rounder than money does, and as a chubby chaser I do like round things… I forgot the point I was making as now I just have the Queen song “Fat-Bottomed Girls” stuck in my head.
    
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- HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yes actually
  
  “The new X thing isn’t meant for YOU!111”
  
  Is a common line the media pulls out when the product is failing or have poor reception. Don’t take responsibiliy for the company fucking up, that implies the company is capable of doing wrong. Just shame fans for liking a property and wanted to see it respected. Call them bigots and say the problem is the thing they like is bigoted!
  
  It’s… absolute bullshit.
  
  Sadly it works, people who aren’t well-informed think of the fans of X are just assholes and the new thing is good actually…
  
  It also doesn’t work because the people who aren’t well informed weren’t fans of X, so they’re not seeing/playing the new X thing…
  
  Meaning I guess the The New X thing wasn’t really for anybody… “Literally no one” is a strange demographic to market it to.
  
  See: Skullgirls censoring their game in order to “appeal to a wider demographic”, outlets claiming Skullgirl fans who hate the changes are “secretly pedophiles”, aaaaand… Now the game has a dwindling player count, the Steam forums are reduced to asking when the game will be fixed, and the original creator who was not involved with the censorship has a defamation lawsuit going because a lot of people called him a diddler…
  
  It also works the other way around, when something the big corporations DON’T want to be popular is, just slander it as bigoted
  
  See Also: That time Cuphead fans shat on a game journalist for not being able to clear an overly easy tutorial, so the oulet he worked for tried to save his street cred by… claiming Cuphead was racist and a front for antisemitism… Which the Cuphead fanbase just kinda laughed at because it’s an asinine claim.
  
  It really sucks because as somewhat of a social justice activist and a gamer, well… “Clowns to the right of me, Jokers to the left of me…”
  
  Sidenote: Can we stop the trend of neutering female characters? Seriously bought a fucking Avengers comic the other day (I mostly read Sonic, but I’ll pick up the occasional Marvel from time to time if I think the story looks interst) and I didn’t realize till after I paid for it that the “Thor” on the cover was actually Captain Marvel… all I saw at first was “Blonde, Masculine Face, Masculine Build. I guess that’s a new Thor costume? I dunno, don’t keep up with it.”
  
  Got to reading it in the car and realized “Oh shit, that’s actually Captain Marvel. Sorry about that Carol.”, this didn’t impede my enjoyment of the book mind you. I like Captain Marvel and Thor, so it’s all good…
  
  Look she doesn’t need to pull a Power Girl and have tits the size of her head hanging out of her costume, but I feel like the de-sexualization of female characters has gone far beyond combatting the male gaze and is now reaching the “Dear God, can’t let people see her ankles!” stage, which is actually more sexist than keeping the ridiculous chain mail bikinis in the first place, as it implies that traits we consider feminine are inherently sinful and should be hidden from view.
  
  I mean, I know the example I used was a comic, but this shit is happening in games too. I’m a woman and a gamer, games are my power fantasy, me being highly attractive is PART of my power fantasy. Stop making me not hot damn it!
  
  Sorry it’s just… Kotaku’s complacent for creating the environment this happened in, and we’re talking about Kotaku so I felt like airing a grievance of mine.
  
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aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why didn’t they just make it a fucking animated movie?

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- Breadhax0r@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m probably in the minority here but the realistic style is the least of my issues with the movie. I’ve only played modded minecraft and shaders give it that weird realistic look too lol
  
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- Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  In this style and humor please: youtu.be/TSsHG7p0jjU
  
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- skulbuny@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That won’t put butts in seats in theaters to make up for the money being invested. Microsoft wants a new generation of kid money.
  
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RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It seemed like it would be a cheesey movie with some dry humor and I was okay with it up until the girl character called Jack Black “a massive toolbag.” Thats not what I expect from a movie oriented to children, and that made me immediately drop any interest I had left. Then the rest of the trailer somehow got worse with the llama scene, whatever that was.

They should have made the movie animated in the same style as all their commercials, with the characters in a Minecraft style skin based on their real world appearance. Have them start and end in real life, whatever. But boy is this not going to be good.

This looks like the 90s Mario movie all over again. Or the Sonic movie – before they fixed Sonic. Like, even the Resident Evil and Tomb Raider movies are probably better than this and those movies were generally very inaccurate to their source material, and not well receieved.

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- glimse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Don’t remember who (and I’m not about to watch it again) but doesn’t someone also say “what the hell” at some point?
  
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zanyllama52@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Showed this to my kids. Their reaction was:

Kid 1: bruh

Kid 2: Is that the guy from Peaches?

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- mods_mum@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Did that too. Boy and girl, 13 and 11. My daughter said it was dumb. The son wouldn’t even finish watching the trailer. He said it’s cringe.
  
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- theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  My kid loved it.
  
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glimse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I wouldn’t watch it even if the trailer was really good but…I’m gonna shit on it for looking awful, not being targeted towards adults. That opening green screen shot looks AWFUL. I said in another thread it reminds me of those old car commercial edits with the Mark guy. The perspectives of the camera vs the background don’t seem to fit

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- PunchingWood@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  All they would probably need to do is replace the main cast with digital game characters, or at least something that’s rendered so they at least blend in a lot better.
  
  It almost seems like the Sonic movie thing, where they first released a trailer that was so awful they had to change Sonic to look much better. I’m still not sure if it was a very expensive marketing move or not.
  
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HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Reminder: Jack Black broke up Tenacious D to try to save this thing

and…

“Oh, no see, you’re mad, but you see this version of the franchise isn’t for you. It’s for a new crowd that was alienated by the previous version and you need to be nice and let them have their…”

Shut the fuck up, if it’s a version of a thing made for people who are defined by not liking the thing, it’s not going to get the other crowd to like the thing, it’s just going to piss off the people who do like it…

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jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Great article, because it applies to anyone who reads it.

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umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
who tf is it for then

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Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It looks to be an acceptable movie in the same vein as minions to me. I really hope the plot won’t be as formulaic as it definitely is, because I’ll be compelled to watch it at some point.

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hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
But the movie looks bad. That’s why people are mad.

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wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Of course not.

I have taste.

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circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s meant for whom, exactly?

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Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I mean tbf we got 40 year old on here salty about this movie, while my kids can’t wait to see it.

It reminds me of adults bitching about minions being dumb and childish, that’s the point

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olicvb@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
They could be pulling a ‘sonic movie’ move here, releasing a terrible trailer to gather heat and information.

Though the sonic movie only had Sonic to change :3c

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NostraDavid@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
OK, so it’s going to be a shitty movie and no one is going to watch it, other than YouTubers, so they can dunk on the movie.

This is a second shitty movie with Black Jack in it. Lets hope he’s not a trend setter.

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AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Biggest problem I have with a movie like this is them trying to make a movie out of an endless sandbox game. If a game has a definitive end, then sure it’s fine. Just look at the Fallout show and Sonic movie.

Imagine if for some reason The Powder Toy suddenly became a huge thing and they decided to make a movie out of it. Where do you go while not being lame? That’s how I feel about this upcoming film.

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pyre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
wait what… what does the article say? who do they even mean by “you” in the first place? are they right? am i supposed to form an opinion based on the title? am i back on reddit???

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gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve read the article. It is based on the author’s personal experience, which, news flash, does not represent reality as a whole.

Also, he called Minecraft Story Mode a “Netflix cartoon”.

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njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I remember that with my kids asked me to take them to go see it. I’m sorry kids some writer on some websites that I wasn’t allowed to see this movie so you can’t either. Cuz you know you don’t have jobs or money or anything. I have all that so y’all are out of luck.

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TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Plenty of children movies appeal to both demographics. LTT’s most recent stream passed some good ideas around about what would have made a better movie.

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MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
2024 is the year of a lot of gaming and gaming-tangential products being made with a ridiculous price tag but not a clear audience of people who ever asked for it. 🤔

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Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Looks like a likeable character, why are ppl mad?

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