Lightor
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- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
No. Before the industrial revolution participating in art wasn’t something you did to make money, it was a prerequisite to a full human existence. Why say something that is so easily disproven. In ancient Greece, artists were paid by the government to build temples and other public buildings in Athens. In the Middle Ages and Renaissance, works of art were commissioned by patrons and made to order. There are tons of examples of people doing it for money and as their sole job. You are %100 wrong here.
Art isn’t a job art is humanity. Art isn’t pointless, art is the point. Cool, and how does that person making art eat?
Look into the concept of commodification. You’ll learn a lot Yes, I learned about this way back in college. It’s not some new or crazy idea. It’s not even a bad idea, it has help society throughout many points in history.
I’m saying that people shouldn’t “be able to live” off of art the same way they shouldn’t “be able to live” off breathing and further.
Art is something you invest time and money and resources into. Breathing is not. This doesn’t make any sense. I can breathe while working a 9-5.
I am ignoring the ripple effects on people’s lives because those effects only hit them as far as they have allowed themselves to participate in the selling off of their humanity.
Really? Well that is extremely close minded. Without IP big pharma won’t be interested in investing millions into a new vaccine, so I guess everyone who dies from the lack of that vaccine is their fault, because they sold their sole. Or you spent your life on your masterpiece of a book and want to make money off your life’s work, someone you’ve sold you soul because you want money to live.
And no. It doesn’t extend to free speech because free speech isn’t an argument solely used to prop up a system that shouldn’t have ever existed at all.
Have you never seen politicians? Have you ever read a history book? Words and hate speech, covered by freedom of speech, has lead to many deaths. But I guess they don’t matter somehow.
Art is not pointless, but it shouldn’t be something you buy or sell. Many things we buy or sell today are the same. Art is not unique.
But I’m sure the artist wants a house to live in. Who is making that house? They want to eat. How are they getting that food. You seem to live in a fantasy land where everyone has unlimited time and money to just create and be happy with creating, no bills, no real world to worry about.
But the argument that an artist in the Netherlands keeping their job because otherwise they’ll starve is a justification for a child in Sierra Leone dying of tuberculosis when the person paying for the art has the ability to give the artist food and the child medicine is evil. And make no mistake, that person is you. Sure call me evil. But if I’m evil then you are the literal devil. That kid who wants that tuberculosis medicine, how do you think we got that medicine? A company invested millions to research it. So when the next disease comes around and it’s killing millions and no one is willing to just burn millions to find a cure because they have no IP, those deaths will be because of people like you. You have this childish mindset that after IP is gone everyone will magically have meds in their hands and everything will be perfect. No, you’re just as dumb as you are evil. New diseases will come up, no one will invest in curing them because they will lose money, and people will die. The difference between me and you is I can see more than 1 month into the future on how this would effect things.
IP abolition is one single part of a much larger reform we need, and anyone who is arguing against it is missing the forest for the trees. That is my argument.
I agree we need reform. But I would say anyone arguing that we don’t need IP is naive. They benefit from it every day while saying it should be destroyed. Which now that I think of it sounds like every republican. Not calling you one, just funny how that works out. No surprise that people with money are the ones wanting it gone. Ever think why the rich want this? Is it because you think they’re trying to be good people? Or maybe, just maybe, they realize how they will get even more money and power while selling a fantasy that people eat up. This is just like how people eat up the idea of tariffs without even understanding what they are. That’s you.
Wanting artists to be able to be paid for their work obfuscates the much larger, actually important issue that they’ll starve in our society without their art. That is evil.
Yes, they shouldn’t have to do art to survive. But your solution would just kill art all together. Because a system is broken is not a reason to remove it entirely, it’s a reason to fix it. You just seem to have this pipe dream of a world where everyone can just do art whenever for free and no one ever has to worry about money. That sounds great, but it’s a fantasy. I live in reality, please join me.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
I agree. I wouldn’t be in favor of “burn it down” if I thought we could negotiate better terms with our current IP oligarchs.
So since we can’t save it, we just burn it down? The legal system isn’t doing so hot either, should we just get rid of laws? I mean rich people can break then and regular people can’t, should we just get rid of them since we can’t fix it right now?
I’ll still be available to do creative work. It wouldn’t change my current work-for-hire efforts.
I don’t know what kind of work you do, but it would impact many. You can’t show drafts, you can’t present mock-ups, etc, because they can just take those. You could make art for someone saying they will pay and then they don’t. You could get a refund, but they just copied the art and it’s theirs now.
This also harms people who in literature especially. They don’t own the book they write. And for anyone to appreciate it, they also have the ability to give it away for free. But I guess since it doesn’t impact you, it’s somehow not a problem?
Very little valuable IP is held by actual creators, today.
This may be true, but guess how they lost that IP? They sold it. They owned it and were able to sell it to a bigger company that could run away with it. Without IP the selling part goes away, they just take it and run away with it. I mean come on, how do you think authors make money?
Are you an actual published creator, or a temporarily embarrassed future billionaire? Tell me you don’t understand empathy without telling me. You made it very clear before by the “it won’t impact me” statement, but this is just next level. Because I and many other can see how this will cause damage, that means nothing because we’ve not been personally impacted?
But that falls apart when I have actually created and sold software. I have created IP. And I’ve had actually to defend my personal IP from a previous employer.
Is there a version of success for you that isn’t just selling to a big IP company to get enough money to retire? That’s what it looks like, to me.
What? You’re just making up a scenario in your head. If you can sell your IP to company and live comfortably for the rest of your life while they do all the heavy lifting and you get paid while people enjoy what you create, how is that some big loss? Because you want all the money? Sure, then self publish, it’s an option. Start a small LLC, people do it, stop acting like it’s the only way forward.
The peak of my possible success would be to write something that threatens/tempts the big IP holders enough to force them to buy me out. If I don’t take the buy out, they eventually bury my thing with their advertising power.
I mean, false. This is just wrong, people have created companies, brands, book series, etc. This just seems like you have decided you have no chance so you don’t try and want to tear down the system so you can get yours.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
So art is pointless because people are dying? This is silly. We can destroy the creative nature of our society to save some people, sure. Ignoring the ripple effect that has and lives it would impact, how far do you take that? Is losing the right to freedom of speech ok if it saves lives? This would have massive down stream effects and actuall results in more harm.
Did you ever consider the ability to make and sell these, then transport? Did you consider the fact that as new deseases emerge that there will be no incentive for a company to invest in finding a cure or vaccine? No, because people just want to virtue signal.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
I didn’t read the whole book, I didn’t have time.
But since you claim to have, explain how that problem is solved. I mean you read it all right? So correct me, how is that problem solved? Show me how big of an idiot I am.
Or is this just a deflection.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
This argument falls apart with the very basic concept of self publishing which many do.
It also ignores that you get a deal with that publisher and still get paid. Without IP they don’t have to pay you.
Come on people…
- Comment on Who would win in a fight, a Gorilla or a Bear of equal weight? 3 weeks ago:
The smartest person in the world would lose a fight to a bear in the woods. The bear is a car with claws and thick hide trying to kill you.
- Comment on Who would win in a fight, a Gorilla or a Bear of equal weight? 3 weeks ago:
I man that’s a lot of assumptions. In that case, throw some cubs in there and the bear would fight to the death.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
Yep, this is Trump’s Tariffs all over again.
And if this happened, people would cheer as they got all this stuff for free, without realizing that they just killed the future of creativity.
The irony is people want this to happen because they see companies as greedy. When in fact, this move itself would be incredibly greedy and feed the corporations that people are trying to rail against.
And all these free movies and software are only “free” until they find a way to enforce logins and always online BS for everything. Big companies won’t just give up their IP, they will fight this and find a way to hoard.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
This is no naive…
If you copy everyone else you’re not going to be profiting much, as your product isn’t competitive.
Like there are a million different waters you can buy at the grocery store but somehow there are companies that dominate three space?
You are ignoring things like advertising, branding, manufacturing quality, distribution, etc. If your logic held, at all, generics of products would outsell brand names because they are more available and cost less. But people but brand name still.
Android innovated and now they make a ton of of the OS and embedding their apps in there.
You’re ignoring situations like say, you spent 5 years of your life writing a book. Guess what, another company can print and sell it, giving you nothing. Then can then manufacturer and sell merch around it, at scale, and you get nothing. They could then even start a live action play about it, it could win awards, and they never have to ever mention you. They could actually just bury you and muddy the water, saying they created it and calling you a liar.
Yeah, there’s a reason rich people want this.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
Acting like FOSS is representing all creative work is dishonest.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
“Do inventors lose because of this? Probably.”
This calls out the exact problem with this when glosses over it. With big companies able to now swing in and steal any idea this doesn’t work. Times have changed, your idea can be ripped away and sold to everyone while you get nothing. But the mindset of this article is that “there are more copies of your idea out there so it’s cheaper for everyone.” This ignores that the inventor has less motivation to actually invent.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
This is just wrong. If you write a book, you own that book. Many people sell art.
What this would do is make it so that creating isn’t profitable for people. Why write a book that people can just take for free. So creatives won’t be able to make money from creating, so they’ll do something else.
This sounds like a dystopian future where everyone is a factory worker, and people are cheering it on at the thought of “free stuff.”
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
Voiding all IP law would cause a huge loss in the creative community.
If people can no longer pay their bills by creating then they stop creating and work. If I can’t pay my bills by writing a book or creating art and selling it, then I stop doing that and get a job at Walmart.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 3 weeks ago:
Exactly, people don’t actually think about this. They just think “I get stuff companies have” and not “no one will write books anymore.” If creative people can’t make money by creating, they do something else. Why make music, books, art, when doing so becomes a financial drain.
Imagine a world where you created a hit story online. Well a big company could make that a book, sell it and you see nothing. If it got big they could sell merch, which you would see none of. Big companies, by having manufacturing and distribution setup, could steal any idea at any point and put it into the machine. This would be a nightmare.
- Comment on Nintendo Switch 2 Launches on June 5th Worldwide; 1080p Screen With 120 FPS and HDR Support, Docked Mode 4K Resolution Support Confirmed 4 weeks ago:
Cool and how many games are there in the system? What’s the top selling game on switch. How many shooters are popular on switch? Or is it that they lock down their IP and it’s marketed strongly towards children.
But sure, nuance doesn’t matter. Nintendo is clearly the best system with the best games. I wonder how gaming PCs are even selling anymore, no one even should be playing on anything else it’s so obviously good. Jesus…
- Comment on Nintendo Switch 2 Launches on June 5th Worldwide; 1080p Screen With 120 FPS and HDR Support, Docked Mode 4K Resolution Support Confirmed 4 weeks ago:
You can try to rationalize it all you want, bottom line is people don’t have money to buy $80 games these days.
I bought a rug that I’ve gotten years of value out of, should it have been thousands of dollars then? The idea that time used is how you measure value is flawed.
- Comment on Please choose one 4 weeks ago:
The force streamers and people who cover Nintendo to pay them, because word of mouth isn’t enough. They need money.
They have and continue to directly or aid in the effort to patten basic game mechanics.
They refuse to participate in cross play functionality often.
They kill fan projects because fuck you for liking our games and bringing more attention to them I guess.
A company doesn’t have to be my friend. But when they are actively attacking people who express love for their product you eventually stop loving the product.
- Comment on Please choose one 4 weeks ago:
Don’t forget, you see way less Nintendo gaming videos and streamers. Because they are greedy and want a cut of what is made. They’re not happy with the good word of mouth, they NEED to get paid.
Also look at this shit with PalWorld. Working to retroactively patten very basic game mechanics because a franchise that refused to evolve got beat by the new kids.
- Comment on Nintendo Switch 2 Launches on June 5th Worldwide; 1080p Screen With 120 FPS and HDR Support, Docked Mode 4K Resolution Support Confirmed 4 weeks ago:
Cool. And Sony can sell to PS and PC, same with Xbox. They have two markets, one that they don’t have to support with hardware. They can also make games that look nice and run nice because they have much better hardware.
- Comment on Nintendo Switch 2 Launches on June 5th Worldwide; 1080p Screen With 120 FPS and HDR Support, Docked Mode 4K Resolution Support Confirmed 4 weeks ago:
Man I’ve just forgotten about Nintendo at this point. Microsoft and Sony get that exclusives aren’t working when people don’t have enough money to buy every system anymore. I see Nintendo as a niche console with a handful of games. There’s just not enough to justify buying one, and I grew up on Zelda and Metroid. I love them, but it’s not worth buying another console for a few high priced games with questionable performance.
- Comment on Game Informer Is Back and the Entire Team Has Returned 1 month ago:
So you like ads, just not GameStop ads? I mean, GI had a lot of info about games, too. Beyond Nintendo and PS, you could actually learn about PC games.
- Comment on Game Informer Is Back and the Entire Team Has Returned 1 month ago:
You don’t want a magazine that’s adverts but you like Nintendo Power and PSM…
- Comment on The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst 1 month ago:
It’s just so meh. Another city, you’re a criminal doing crime. There are just games with much better stories or mechanics at this point. I don’t get the hype around it.
- Comment on The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst 1 month ago:
Because I don’t want to play full price for a 1080 upscaled experience at 30fps. If it’s a good experience then it will be worth the wait and that much better when it runs smoother, looks better, and loads faster. Plus it will have most of the bugs worked by then.
- Comment on dear republicans, what's the point of alienating every single ally of the US? 1 month ago:
Well if none of them can have an adult conversation that happens. I’ve “debated” with them on here and it devolved into Twitter. Insults, grand claims with no evidence. Yes, we’ve created an echo chamber where you have to actually prove what you say, and they couldn’t survive. I’m ok with that.
- Comment on I hate this image because idiots will see it, not understand what its showing, and make up some crazy shit based on it. 2 months ago:
Our universe? We gotta share?
- Comment on Common Ground 2 months ago:
Stop letting them cause damage? We’re “letting” them do that? Sorry, we don’t have any control of them causing damage. Making sure they double down instead of seeing an opportunity to change only makes sure they cause more damage. Insulting them doesn’t make them want to stop.
You seemed to miss the last part of that sentence, which is a very important part of it, the “in this quest for rehabilitation”. Let me give you an example and maybe that will be easier to understand. If you let a person stay at your house because they have no where to live and then steal stuff, that’s not ok. Now you bring them to therapy and explain why it was wrong and they promise to stop. Then you let them stay at your house and they still again. So you talk to them again and tell them they need to stop. They continue to steal. Now, at some point, you trying to reform this person is just an invitation to having your stuff stolen because it’s not getting through. You’re not “letting” them steal, but you are enabling them to do it when you know they most likely will. This is my stance on these people. MAGA supporters have “stolen” from us too many times for me to open my door and let them back in my house.
Ironically, this is a response with a total lack of empathy. No, they largely do have empathy. They’re just told that the path that does the most good is the wrong one. They want to protect women, and they’re told that trans women are a threat to them. Sure, it’s lies, but they’re lies that abuse empathy. If they lacked empathy then the messaging wouldn’t target empathy.
How am I not showing empathy? But moving past that, they don’t largely have empathy… Or do you think deporting people, banning books, telling people they aren’t the gender they claim to be, limiting health care, passing voter suppression, taxing the lower and middle class to fund tax breaks for the rich, you think all that shows empathy? People either know what they’re voting for and have no empathy or they are idiots who enabled horrible things. Either way they are not great people.
No, we haven’t. Our political class has specifically sought to divide. Sure, they try to get republican support when they need to, though they don’t do it through going left. They do it through maintaining the status quo.
I’m getting to the point where this has to be a troll. One side was literally making up insulting nick names for people, banning the press from even covering them, people running as dems them voting republican. Hell there are sitting members of or govt who think Jewish Space Lasers are real and that federal workers don’t deserve a paycheck or a job, they said that out right. The left isn’t doing all that. The left tried to use laws and order to bring Trump in order. Look at what he is doing right now, firing people en mass, putting media people in charge of the FBI and FDA. They aren’t talking to anyone about anything, they are forcing what they want, even if it breaks the law. Trying to act like one side is pure lawless while the other side is trying to use the law is silly.
Regardless, it doesn’t matter what “we’ve tried” before. Its about practicality. What does telling them they are bad and can’t move past that do? It only ensures they’ll never be useful. That’s not the way forward.
Dude, wake up. People are losing their jobs because of Trump and they still think it’s for the good of America. These are cult members. They are not interested in compromise or discussion, literally look what is going on in the govt right now and people still support it. Trying to appeal to them is like trying to appeal to Hitler in WW2, it doesn’t work. You’re the group in WW2 that thought Hitler could be reasoned with and kept trying to appease him. It doesn’t always work, this is one of those times.
We need to push leftist policy, which they largely do agree with
Out of touch doesn’t even begin to come close to addressing this… Holy crap man. Do you follow politics at all?
invite them to join us
Ahh yes, invite them to sabotage any plans we have. Great idea. Super naive, but great idea.
If we don’t then we are stuck where we are, which personally I don’t really care for.
No, we need to let them know that what they want and are pushing isn’t acceptable. This idea of you have of “just push leftist policies” ignores the how. There’s a reason why people call themselves “Forever Trumpers”, they will follow him to the end. This is not a group of people that can be reasoned with. Look at some of the street interviews of these people, they don’t care about policy, they care about their side winning, fully stop. That and marginalizing people. Those are the only policies the right has advertised and pushed, and the voters love them for it. That’s not a group looking to change their mind, that’s a group that needs to be cast out and shamed.
- Comment on Common Ground 2 months ago:
At what point do you stop letting the person cause damage in this quest for rehabilitation? If someone knowingly hurts groups of people and is proud of it what is your path there? To rehabilitate someone like that they need empathy, the one thing Republicans lack en mass. That’s the only reason they are upset now, because it finally impacts them. If a person is proud of hurting people and lacks any empathy I don’t see a path to rehabilitation for them. And trying to do so just gives them more slack to cause more harm. We’ve tried talking and reasoning for years, look where we are.
- Comment on I just think skibidibi sounds neat. 2 months ago:
My highschool self saying “no dice” sarcastically needed to know this.
- Comment on Murica 2 months ago:
Or passenger train. One that can go long distances, isn’t limited by your physical ability, and can remain climate controlled so my ice cream doesn’t melt on a 20 minute bike ride in the summer.