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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean you have to buy it on your own accord, culture your own cells, and then successfully cook and eat them. As long as you aren’t stealing other people’s cells to eat them without their consent it seems more ethical than the current meat industry.

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    • Ibaudia@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      stealing other people’s cells to eat them

      This will become a sex thing for sure

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      • Aggravationstation@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I made a post about that a while ago: feddit.uk/post/14228639

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      • SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s a (pretty great) movie where cannibalism is treated as a substitute for sex. It’s called Aamis.

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      • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        3D printed cell scaffolds combined with this mean you can shape them

        Now I wonder if someone has actually tried making a dildo from cultured flesh and skin

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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But it’s still cannibalism, yeah? If someone consented to be eaten before they died or even wished for it, would you be OK with eating them?

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      • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We have to draw some sort of line here though. Will this give you prions? Does this end the persons life like traditional cannibalism usually does? Theres a lot to unpack in these tiny man steaks. I’d still rather people be growing their own meat at home in a petri dish than having animals locked in cages for eternity.

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      • jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        would you be OK with eating them

        are they yummy ?

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      • Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So, if it were the original cells, then it would be autocannibalism, since these are cloned cells (from what I gather) it’s technically not the same thing.

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      • garbagebagel@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is unironically one of my favourite questions to ask new friends. I’ve gotten a variety of answers, but my own response has always been yes, if the person was healthy and had clearly consented.

        In my opinion, cannibalism is bad for two main reasons, 1) it can be unsafe if the person was ill, the meat has spoiled, or if it’s done too often (this has been studied in cannibalistic rituals) and 2) it’s unethical if the person doesn’t consent to it.

        Eating animal meat is non consensual and there can be diseases in there too - many people have died from it. Just because it’s more socially acceptable, I don’t really see it as an ethically better decision.

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      • Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’re eating yourself I think it’s autophagy

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      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As long as it’s not coerced, yes (not the brain).

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    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As long as you aren’t stealing other people’s cells to eat them without their consent it seems more ethical than the current meat industry.

      Even if you did, while super weird as long as you didn’t get the cells through violence it’s probably still more ethical than the meat industry.

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      • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can probably use some violence and still come out ahead. I don’t know how to do that math though.

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    • dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And what if you don’t own a Honda?

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  • edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    without causing harm to animals

    • Humans are animals
    • Growing me-steak and eating it causes psychic damage
    • Therefore, an animal was harmed
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    • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If we cultured cells from someone with an autocannibalism fetish, would it then be OK?

      Like I take 1d4 psychic damage whenever I see furries at cons, but I don’t think they should have to be banned

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    • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think you can generalize that. I’d love to have little me-steaks and I’d even share them with friends, especially if they can be a Möbius strip.

      As long as the human chooses to grow their me-steaks themselves I see no issue.

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    • Vilian@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just don’t get psychic damage, skill issue ngl

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  • Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Incoming: nonconsensual meat grown from samples illicitly taken against someone’s will.

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    • curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Imagine the network of Taylor Swift DNA trading.

      And you know someone is going to fuck it.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What are the ethics of fucking a steak made from a non-consenting Taylor Swift’s tissue sample?

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    • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      nonconsensual meat grown from samples illicitly taken against someone’s will.

      Meat is already produced without consent and much more violently then taking samples.

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    • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But how else will we know which neighbor tastes the best?

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    • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wasn’t there a short story about this?

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      • Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I remember a magic school bus episode about kid flavored ice cream

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  • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Of course it’s ethical, unless I’m seriously misunderstanding something you literally have to make the decision to buy it and then partake in it.

    I guess you can use it unethically but by default intended usage it’s fine

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  • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To me that’s more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical. I wouldn’t do that because that would feel weird, but not unethical.

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    • Decoy321@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t do that because that would feel weird,

      I mean, it’s basically homemade spam. It’s kinda weird.

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    • DarthFrodo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To me that’s more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical.

      I think most people would actually consider factory farming unethical, they just put the blame on the producers for treating animals like shit. And the producers are locked into a race to the bottom for competitive prices, so they’d blame the customers/market conditions.

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Haha I’ve been saying for fucking years that boutique lab growing meat outlets will pop up selling exotic animal meats and celebrity human meat. We are getting close to that future

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    • fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Its not the ‘eat the rich’ that I was hoping for… Might be the one we deserve.

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      • Persen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Eat the rich (onlyfans celebrities).

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    • HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I’ll take a burger, mediums rare, & let’s do a 50/50 blend of Ground Chuck & Beyoncé on Sourdough.”

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      • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ground Chuck

        Palahniuk or Norris?

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      • Donebrach@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wreched vore future unlocked.

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    • Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What are the chances this doesn’t result in a rise of (traditional) cannibalism? High profile cannibalism case where they tasted a sample of a celebrity and went for the real deal.

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      • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That wasn’t on my bingo card…

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  • NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Would any of you care to taste my meat?

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  • JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I bet I taste delicious!

    This is ethical despite it walking the line of taboo. It hurts no one, and if the tissue sample can be extracted at home without causing damage to the donor I see no issue with it.

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s unethical because it’s gross and I don’t like it.

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This guy understands the root of ethics

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    • bustAsh@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why not take the cells of farm animals and create steaks, etc?

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      • LwL@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure, but where’s the upside? (ethically, not sure if consuming your own meat could have some sort of weird effect on you, even though afaik the usual cannibalism issues wouldn’t apply). If anything it’s more ethical to take it from yourself because you consent to it, the farm animal probably doesn’t.

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  • LotrOrc@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would be worried about disease first, but if it’s your own cells maybe there’s less chance? Prions are terrifying

    My second question would be taste

    If there’s no disease and it tastes good then fuck yeah all in

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those cannibals who got prions ate human brain.

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    • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Theoretically, if you don’t consume any of spine or nervous system, you should be good.

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      • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can’t grow me a spine steak?
        What even is the point then

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    • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Unless you already have prions from CJD you can’t catch Kuru by eating yourself. You have to actually eat someone who already has prions to catch it. Even then you have to eat nervous system tissue to be at a significant risk.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What if I want to grow my steak into a hollow-cylinder shape, and also, not eat it, per-se?

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  • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t you get prions from canibalism

    Also if this costs less than supermarket meat I could buy some beef and clone it

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    • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes and no. You get prions from eating a person that’s also infected with prions. Basically if you eat cloned meat of yourself it should be fine as you either already have prions, or you don’t already have prions. Prions manifest as either CJD if you got it naturally or Kuru if you got it through canibalism.

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      • Quereller@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is muscle tissue even infectious? (Especially when grown from a few cells) Don’t you need to eat some brain or spinal cord?

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s unethical because you can’t safely perform muscle biopsies at home, thus it is a violation of the duty of care, and culturing simple squamous epithelium and calling it meat is lying, which is a fundamental ethical violation.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But couldn’t you just grow one steak and then take cells from it to grow more?

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      • velvetThunder@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think you would get the copy of a copy problem. DNA in cells degrade overtime. I think with lab grown meat this is much worse than normal human aging.

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    • lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cells were collected from a cheeck swab. And it’s not a real product, it’s an art project.

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      • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah I know. Cheek cells are stratified squamous epithelium.

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  • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would try this in a fucking heartbeat

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    • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fuck yeah, I might lose weight!

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    • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ethically sourced human? Same. Sign me the fuck up. Not for a subscription or anything, but I really want to try it.

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  • molten@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck, I’ve always wanted to eat human meat anyway. I’d kill for a sample like this. I don’t care about morals here. I’m a vegetarian. I just want to know. If my buddy was like “ayy we’re eating Dan from accounting’s arm tonight” I’d be there with no questions asked. The police can sort it out.

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    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, if you’d kill for that you don’t need the kit.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d kill for a sample like this.

      oh boy do I have something to tell you

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    • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t want to eat human meat, but I don’t mind if you kill that asshole from accounting.

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      • xavier666@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fun fact : Human meat is an excellent source of protein 🤓

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    • interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thats what im thinking- i rarely eat meat but how could i pass up ethical long pig? Im too curious

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  • devAlot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    fetal bovine serum (FBS)… is derived from the blood of calf fetuses after their pregnant mothers are slaughtered by the meat or dairy industry.

    I did not know this… and after reading the wiki, I found it rather disturbing…

    The first stage of the production process for FBS is the harvesting of blood from the bovine fetus after the fetus is removed from the slaughtered cow. The fetus dies from the lack of oxygen by remaining in the protective environment of the uterus for a minimum of 15–20 minutes after the cow is dead…

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    By what technicality this isn’t cannibalism?

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Eat my ass!”

    “Don’t mind if I do.”

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  • ignotum@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Man-made man-steaks beyond my comprehension

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  • VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The perfect gift for RimWorld players.

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  • NegativeInf@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes. You consented. It’s just more you.

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  • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What if you have cancer and don’t know it, and just accidentally happen to grow a tumour for dinner?

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  • AbidingOhmsLaw@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    soylent me?

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  • Rolder@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Isn’t cannibalism a good way to get prion based diseases? Or is that only if you eat other people

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  • Fleur__@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anyone who thinks this is okay can suck my lab grown dick

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Completely ethical why would it not be?

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  • AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Remember that guy on Reddit who claims he had to have his leg amputated and he somehow got to keep it, and he and his friends cooked and ate it?

    That’s weird, but as long as it remains their own, or consenting others, I think it’s fine. The minute capitalism gets involved I think it becomes exploitative and unethical - long pork in the grocery store fundamentally should not be a thing.

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  • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also I want to hear from you, is it ethical and why?

    I don’t see why not. It hurts nobody, except maybe yourself. Not sure what the nutrition is on this thing.

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  • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My hunch is that, as proposed, this is the most ethical form of meat consumption because the meat is being taken and consumed with consent from the donor. (Yourself) And there’s no living creature that even suffers from the process

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    auto cannibalism?

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  • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not eating bugs, I’m not drinking water made from my own shit, I’m not going to live in a pod, I’m not eating “steak” made from my own body.

    This is literally something in CardsAgainstHumanity

    “Auto cannibalism…the new fad diet”

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