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• Pothetato@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is fine. I probably taste good.

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• NicolaHaskell@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s bacteria that grow in the roots of legumes that are capable of capturing gaseous nitrogen. That nitrogen makes its way to the soil, where the trees can suck it up to produce protein, like sunflower seeds. I eat those and by the time I urinate and die the nitrogen has been so concentrated within me that I burn a small hole in the ground for the fungus, sun, and time to decay and heal.

  If I could photosynthesize the carbs needed to bootstrap this operation I would. If I could plant a piece of myself and feed it rainwater and atmospheric nitrogen to grow a steak I would. If I could leave behind shelter I wood.

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  • chemicalprophet@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Was this all an elaborate ruse to employ a shitty pun?!!

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    • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wooden put it past them

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  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    urinate and die

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• DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So what do we feed the cells to allow them to grow?

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  • Qwazpoi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the process still relies on fetal bovine serum (FBS) as a protein-rich growth supplement for animal cell cultures.

    FBS, which costs around £300 to £700 per litre

    Also this all comes from a 4 submission to and art museum in 2020, it’s not supposed to be an actual product it’s more of a proof of concept type of thing.

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    • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right, I assumed we weren’t about to see this on shelves or anything like that any time soon. But man that could do a lot for animal ethics

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• normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Hey hon, get in here. I want you to try this”

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  • volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Damn I just realized that guys will of course try to make dick meat

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• abcdqfr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m putting ten in the bathtub and naming it Steve.

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• tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s not like they can check what kinds of cells you put in. No need to made this weird by cultivating human meat.

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  • volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The kit likely is optimized for human muscle cells and might not perform as well with other human cells or muscle cells from another species or even not at all. The other question is where would you find livable cells from a cow or whatever that you wanted to cultivate. I doubt that your refrigerated steak has viable cells.

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    • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think the requiernments for mammalian muscles cells are that different from each other. It might be optimized for a specific animal, but I’m pretty sure it will still work in general or it would only take very small adjustments to make it work for a different animal.

      The other question is where would you find livable cells from a cow or whatever that you wanted to cultivate

      Yeah, you’d need a live or very recently deceased cow. But it should be easy enough to obtain some samples. Before or during regular slaughter. And once this method is viable and widespread enough there will probably “biopsy cows” that just get pricked for cell samples all day.

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• fox2263@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is this technically cannibalism?

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  • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is by definition cannibalism

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    • fox2263@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Full self cannibalism. Like consuming ones own various fluids

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• blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Carnists well do anything to eat meat

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  • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh no, meat grown in a way that doesn’t harm sentient beings! How awful!

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  • VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh come on veggist, I eat you and you eat me, in a consensual lab grown way.

    And I am just kidding, not even sure I am on board with this, i think eating lab grown cow meat would be less upsetting.

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    • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s just frustrating. Despite study after study showing that consumption of meat leads to poor health, people keep doing it. It just reminds me of being an addict. Other people saying this causes less harm to other sentient beings are right I’ll conceded to that but based off everything I know, the consumption of meat isn’t an act of self love. I may just be sensitive because my mother is dying of stomach disease. Beans and rice vegan steps off soap box

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  • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I knew one of you would show up in this post and make it all about you

    This post isn’t about you

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    • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your right it’s not. It’s about your poor health.

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• andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Art project from 2020 - intended to provoke the conversations here for sure. Still involves some animal products in production it looks like.

  I don’t think this could be feasibly upscaled to sustain a dystopia.

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is kinda cool, but maybe make it plant-based instead?

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  • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We aren’t made of plants, how could this be a man made horror if we ate nerd ass veggies at the end of this???

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  • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe stop brigading posts about meat and keep to your self instead?

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have never done that. Maybe stop assuming things about strangers and keep to yourself instead?

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  • DrDominate@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s just gardening

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• MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Looks cool. Will take a chance to try and grow my own steak, but i probably wont eat it.

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  • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait. Isnt this infinite food? Cut off 1cm2 of skin, grow a steak, and ‘free’ dinner? Lets actually read thw article.

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    • matt1126@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You would have to “feed” it nutrition while it grows into the steak, so not infinite and not free unfortunately

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• nifty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I am going to say that it’s unethical for someone to eat others or themselves, lab grown or not, because the community members in a society want to 1) curtail or reduce suffering and 2) increase ways to promote better judgment and impulse controls.

  1 - We treat cattle and animals for food production with such contempt and disdain and cruelty, and if we were to start eating humans (lab grown, self-eating or otherwise) we’ll treat humans the same. Delegating some humans to be eaten, lab grown (by choice or not) or otherwise, is going to create a lot of societal strife and suffering. How does self-eating contribute to suffering? See reason 2.

  2 - People who consume others or themselves cannot be guaranteed to be devoid of sociopathic characteristics. Even if someone is just eating themselves, it blurs the line between food source and community member.

  I think it is the same as people who smoke or cut themselves to relieve stress—yes, whatever you’re doing is your choice and seemingly only affecting you. However, the second hand smoke/scarring in the case of the self-cannibal is their poor judgment and poor impulse control. We expect society members to exercise better judgment and impulse control because the way they think impacts everyone around them.

  Why does self-cannibalism seem like poor judgment? Think again of someone who cuts themselves to relieve stress. The way you treat your yourself, including your body, is a reflection of your state of mind. Only a narcissist would say that they’re in complete control of their mind, including the subconscious part, and so their self-eating will be harmless and not result in any bad behavior towards others, ever. We already know vegetarians have more empathy than meat eaters: psychologytoday.com/…/brain-scans-show-vegetarian…

  As mentioned, we have historically always treated animal sources of nutrition with disdain, contempt and cruelty. If someone feels that it’s okay for them to eat themselves using lab grown meat, I worry what kind of psychological interplay justifies that decision for them. Do they hate themselves? Is this self-harm? What will their interactions with other people be like after doing this?

  So, yes autonomy and self-actualization is an inherent right of cognitively advanced beings. But they lose that right the second it starts impacting someone else’s self-actualization.

  In short, even self-cannibalism is unethical because society wants members who are not sociopaths and who won’t contribute to the suffering of other members.

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  • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How is this any way self-harm? To be clear we aren’t talking about growing a whole person here as you seem to be confused. We are talking about a few cells in a petri dish or vat. This is all just psychobabble nonsense. You’re the one here who shouldn’t be in polite society.

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    • nifty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How can you qualify that it’s not self harm? Maybe we need to do brain scan study of what it looks like for people who cut themselves vs those who eat meat grown from their cells.

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  • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stop brigading posts nifty

    People will eat meat if they want to, you can’t stop them and at the end of the day brigading annoys people and disrupts social media

    It’s the exact same thing you and your group did on reddit

    Just stop brigading posts and stop mass downvoting any posts that contain meat, I’ve looked at the vote ratios of posts in food subs enough to know that it is being done

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    • nifty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What the fuck are you on about? I am only on lemmy, and don’t use any other boards.

      You’re the one lying about me and brigading.

      Maybe you’re a stooge sent by big-Cannibalism to help make this tech popular? See, I can make baseless claims too 🙄

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  • Lizardking27@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ladies and gentlemen, it apprars we have a winner of the most braindead take award!

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  • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is exactly what I tell people who want to drink their own cum. Like, how can society trust you, man.

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• BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is this considered vegan meat?

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  • volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can’t speak for this specific kit but in general: A big problem with lab grown meat and cell tissue culture is that to grow cells in vitro you usually need fetal calf serum. That’s a liquid from, well, cow abortions basically, that contains a plethora of different molecules like growth factors and mediators. As far as I know, there is no vegan alternative to this yet. We are talking about a liquid here whose composition is really complex, so it’s a really big task to create a plant based FCS alternative that performs just as well.

    Tldr: probably the set contains a liquid made from cows.

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  • Teppichbrand@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes is it, as no animal is harmed:
    “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.”

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  • v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As vegan as it gets, I’d wager. You need to take an initial sample to cultivate the meat from, which obviously isn’t vegan, but to my knowledge, the rest doesn’t require any further samples

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  • bam13302@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Likely depends on what’s needed/used as feed

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  • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What about this post has anything to do with vеgаnism BudgetBandit

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This one is considered vegan because it used expired human blood cells, but calling a cheek culture meat is beyond the pale. That’s like calling sausage skins meat.

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• MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  hummm delicious cancer meet

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• jaemo@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Shades of Wendy meat from Rudy Rucker’s “Ware” tetralogy

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• RubyRhod@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• bluestribute@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ve always wanted Antiviral to be real!

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• Cris_Color@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean… its definitely ethical, its just also freak behaviour 😅

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