Yeah but, what if you could star in this instead? Image
The script is mysterious and important.
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TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can’t tell who voices who.
A sad thing is I can’t tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I usually just wait for a subtle hints of steam building up inside the boiler. To be clear, i think shark tale is really not bad, at all. But it’s weird. I have a dvd of this movie
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
He also turned down Django Unchained. Will Smith is just shit at picking roles.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 minutes ago
I mean, he’s picked plenty of bangers.
Sometimes there’s scheduling conflicts. Sometimes a director casts a wide net, knowing he’s going to get a bunch of rejections. Sometimes you get roped into a project as a favor or a quid pro quo (Vin Disel coming back for a cameo in FF: Tokyo Drift to get Chronicles of Riddick made, only to end up making nine more movies and counting) and it changes your career.
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 10 minutes ago
I honestly can’t think of the last will smith movie I enjoyed
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 51 minutes ago
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 hour ago
he’s also extremely dedicated to maintaining his brand. turning down Django Unchained does feel like a HUGE wiff to me though. Django is basically Deadshot if Deadshot lived in the Antebellum South (presumably after the California gold rush since he spends some time in Colorado). maybe Tarantino films can’t ever fit the Will Smith toxic positivity brand?
reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 hours ago
maybe he just didnt get the point of the story or something. I dont think you can act well if you cant get into the character
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
In general, will smith has always been an action type of guy in his roles, but to do that he always needed to have clear motivations. I guess a nested dream in a dream isn’t functional for this type of actor.
Well, and the fact that back then these movies were almost a gamble you know, like now we treat them as cult classics, but than they were absolutely new and nobody know what they were about.
rumba@lemmy.zip 42 minutes ago
I’m sure Keano was the right choice there. I could see him handling the Matrix if he walked into it in bewilderment like the original Men in Black movie. He’d be fine up until somewhere around the Oracle. I think when things started coming together, and he needed to start commanding his own destiny, the suspension of disbelief would have dropped.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 hour ago
I suppose I could see Inception as being a very risky film based on the script
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
I dunno if I would call Inception a gamble, it’s Christopher Nolan
brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Listen I know he’s an asshole, we all saw the slap etc; but I would love to have seen a Will Smith Inception…. Remember how good enemy of the state was
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 45 minutes ago
Remember how good enemy of the state was
Idk if you can compare the dynamic between Smith and Hackman against DiCaprio and Murphy. I don’t think DiCaprio needs to steal the scenes the same way Will Smith does.
Also, Smith has done plenty of SciFi that was… mid. I am Legend worked in large part because Will Smith was acting against himself. As a lead in an ensemble cast - like in Suicide Squad - he’s not nearly as impressive.
chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip 55 minutes ago
Ya, but it’s good in spite of Will Smith.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Will Smith would have been disastrous in The Matrix and now I want to see it
starik@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
I was thinking, thank god he turned it down
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
If memory serves me right the protagonist in Inception was confused a lot and Wil can pull off confused.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Most likely Leo DeCaprio’s role.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Imagine the tie-in music video he would have done.
rozodru@piefed.world 3 hours ago
uh-huh yeah ha ha woo uh huh am I dreaming or is this real, sleep all day, gotta get that feel ha ha yeah oh uh the city is spinning, but ya see ha ha I ain’t dipping. gotta get the reception, ha ha yeah woo it’s an inception!
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
With the squid machines doing hip hop dances in the background
ramble81@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Given that he turned it down for Wild Wild West, use that as a basis.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I get what you mean/agree, but to play devil’s advocate, his character in Enemy of the State could’ve sorta worked as Neo.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
It is crazy how I always think of that movie as “early career Will Smith before he became famous quippy superstar” but it released between Men In Black and Wild Wild West.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
There would be too many wisecracks. Did keanu even smile as Neo?
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Agreed, but I also firmly believe there is another universe in which we could believably type “Keanu Reeves would have been disastrous in The Matrix”
1984@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
There are Ai clips now on YouTube where they replace actors in famous movies, like putting Tom Cruise in the matrix or whatever.
I dont watch them because I dont want my nice memories of these movies to be overwritten, but it shows how easy it is today to do.
Thunder_Caulk@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
well , excuse me for the AI haters out there. But we gotta do this.
Seedance, c’mon boy, DO IT!!!
Will Smith as NEO in the Matrix.
echodot@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
You get that we want to dialogue right? We can all imagine Will Smith in a leather jacket with slow motion bullets moving around him.
Every time someone who is pro AI tries to advocate for it it always comes off as their brain having turned to porridge. You get we can see that image in our minds, we don’t need it visualised for us at the expense of half an olympic swimming pool worth of water and at least six trees.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
AI BROS, DO YOUR THING!
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
It’s just an infinite number of Will Smith’s eating an infinite amount of spaghetti.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 4 hours ago
Nah sure, giant mecha-spider in the Wild West is a more straightforward I guess.
(Speaking of which Kevin Smith did a ride of a story about a superman movie that never got made, which ties into that very same Mecha-spider)
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 minutes ago
Wild West was a fantastic movie and I’m sad they never mad a sequel.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I enjoy Kevin Smith story time far more than his movies.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Sean Connery turned down both Gandalf in Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix because he didn’t understand the scripts. He turned down Dumbledore in Harry Potter because it was too fantastical. Then he tried a reverse approach where he accepted the next role he didn’t understand, because clearly that was where the money was at. So he accepted Allan Quartermain in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie which flopped hard. Then he ragequit the industry and retired.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
I love that movie, I thought he did great in it too
toynbee@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
And that car, though.
I mean, it had nothing to do with him, but still. Goddamn sexy car.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 hours ago
I remember liking LOEG
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 hour ago
I recently rewatched it and it was a good romp for sure. I never read the comics but apparently it was super unlike the comics it was based on which was part of its problem. Generally pissing off your core audience of fans in an adaptation is bad for the outcome of the movie
osanna@lemmy.vg 7 hours ago
Honestly, Sean Connery as Gandalf would have been shit.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
But imagine him aaking harry calmly
Klear@quokk.au 7 hours ago
He was interviewed by Czech TV during the premiere and was asked if the viewers should go see it. He said that he’s getting paid for every ticket sold and therefore yes! Everyone should see it!
1984@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Made me laugh. I dont know how true it is but its funny. :)
hOrni@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Ever heard about his wife?
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Siegfried@lemmy.world 22 minutes ago
Her name is Infragantia… Infragantia Cuckolds
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
HOW DARE YOU
Trex202@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The bald one?
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 7 minutes ago
Making fun of a black woman for alopecia is kinda low… You’re better than that. At least I hope so.
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
👊
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Once Matrix got super popular Will slapped himself.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 minutes ago
The casting for Matrix was stellar. Even the mid-tier sequels had some incredible performances on their own merit. Possible Smith recognized he wasn’t a good fit and passed on it. Also possible he picked up on the underlying themes too well and got freaked out (there’s plenty of speculation that Smith has been in the closet going back decades).
rumba@lemmy.zip 59 minutes ago
still didn’t hurt :)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
Will smiths thing is most similar to dwayne johnson, he wanted to be the LEAD or the most prominent actor and not the side character
Natanael@infosec.pub 9 hours ago
What do you mean, he played the genie, and, oh right…
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 hours ago
His acting as the genie was OK. But it was very clear that he was acting in the shadow of Robin Williams for that role. It is kinda hard to move away from that one however.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
The wild wild west guy dumb?
Yes
clubb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Let’s all get jiggy with it!
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
With this crisis of new stories to tell, with this incessant demand and lack of offer, it would be interesting to see the movies that famously never were made or would have been made differently with other directors, protagonists, scripts, adaptations, etc. I’d still avoid them, but a Matrix film starring Will Smith would be a success selling tickets.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Some people are not set up for science fiction or fantasy at all. Will Smith is a borderline case, though.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I think with The Matrix specifically it has to do with the physicality. Late 90s Will Smith was in shape and could do big, bombastic action, but I can’t imagine him doing precise martial arts moves without it looking like a comedy.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
Thats what we all said about Keanu. He was a joke at the time. Or rather basically type cast. Even in the more serious roles he was pretty goofy. Speed comes to mind. The Matrix gave me and many i know a bigger liking for the young silly Ted Logan.
FatVegan@leminal.space 6 hours ago
Yeah but that would go both ways. Imagine he did the matrix and it maybe worked out. People would now be like: can you imagine the shitty actor Keanu Reeves was going to play neo in the matrix?
echodot@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
Didn’t you do a sci-fi with his kid? I’ve never seen it and I have no idea what it was about or what it was called but I’m sure it was a sci-fi.
brown567@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
He’s done quite a bit of sci-fi! Off the top of my head I can think of
- Men in Black
- I, Robot
- I am Legend
- Independence Day
Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
After Earth. It’s kinda lightweight as far as sci fi goes.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 hours ago
So what? He’s still doing fine. Was he supposed to be in every blockbuster ever made?
He also won an Oscar. Keanu didn’t. I don’t think that doing Matrix or Inception would have a big impact on his career.
psivchaz@reddthat.com 46 minutes ago
And the movies are still fine. I can’t think of a single role in either film where Will Smith replacing the actor would have improved the film. He’s not really a good fit for either one imo.
radiouser@crazypeople.online 10 hours ago
Django Unchained too.
someguy3@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
From the interview I heard they pitched the matrix terribly.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
For a moment I got him and Matt Smith confused and wondered why he would have has anything to do with Inception.
Hupf@feddit.org 6 hours ago
He was fine with the script up to following the white rabbit.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Sunforged@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Alot of Scientologists I see as using it as a way to grift and enrich themselves. Smith I can see being dumb enough to fall for it.
saigot@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
IDK he might be, he certainly is a dick. but also you don’t usually get to read the whole script (definitely not the final script) before choosing to accept a role, they may only get a scene, maybe just an elevator pitch etc.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
But he took Wild Wild West, Hancock, and I Am Legend. Okay.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Well, hindsight is 20/20, but he also doesn’t have the best history of choosing hits. Maybe it’s his manager? Maybe he’s dumb.
He’s definitely an asshole, though.
tomiant@piefed.social 14 hours ago
Challenging ideas
really?
daannii@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Not everyone likes convoluted scifi.
I personally do.
But there are a lot who don’t.
rumba@lemmy.zip 46 minutes ago
I honestly think he’s kind of a child or childish. I had always suspected it from some odd bits and pieces in lyrics gushing over the Cuban cigar in Jiggy, then feeling the need to point out that he won’t light it, it’s just for the look. I love that the rumor mill thought Nas wrote the lyrics in whole. The slap kinda sinched it, It looked like a grade schooler defending their girlfriend.
I mean, props that he did something about it, but he should have at least tried to act like he was a badass. He’s a fucking actor for god sakes.