The one drawback to walking at night

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• Ajel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Come to Finland, safe to walk at night

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  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Ehh, I’m still scared of it.

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• sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  There’s not enough education about psychopaths and the dangerous subtypes like dark-triad psychopathy.

  I only learned about it in my mid twenties.

  If we taught about it there could be prevented a lot of harm.

  If you don’t know about it chances are that you always ask yourself „how could someone do This?!“

  Simply because they have characteristics that are so far away from your world of feelings and perception of social stuff that you are incapable of understanding it unless you get informed, at least this was my situation.

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• lurklurk@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you see something like this and get angry at women, you have a problem.

  At best it’s a problem with reading comprehension. At worst, you’re worried that things like this could get in the way of your murdering-women hobby.

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  • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My problem with this post is exactly the same I have with any broad assumptions over a poorly defined group: taken as fact, they’re false.

    Of course it’s meant to make a point, and a very valid one. But I’ll point out that there are many places in the world where a young woman can go out for a walk at night without fear of never being seen again, and it’s not because there’s fewer men, so perhaps we should focus on the conditions to achieve this?

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    • eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I’ve been told my whole life tbat i can’t go out at night alone because it 's unsafe. Why is it unsafe? Because there are men out there. Apparently it’s ok for the men in my life to say other men are dangerous but it’s not ok for me to say that men are dangerous. A plague on both your houses. You are all unsafe.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dude… Just shut the fuck up.

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Noooo not my woman murdering hobby >.<

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• IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s why you get a gun. Practice and be prepard to use. Don’t ever hesitate, someone tries to attack you, regardless of gender, they forfeit their right to life.

  (Also get pepper spray in case you are in a dangerous situation, but its not enough to warrant a deadly response, then just fucking spray them, and run. If they chase after you, fucking shoot them.)

  This advice goes for both men and women.

  TLDR: Get pepper spray, and get a gun. Use them in that order.

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  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

    The thing with carrying a gun is that pulling it out can really escalate a situation quickly, and if you’re not experienced enough, it can be turned against you.

    That being said, I fucking hate that I can’t carry even pepper spray because here you need a permit for it.

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  • Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Just kill some people if you feel threatened. -Americans

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    • PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      You’re the only person that both cares and can actually take responsibility for your own safety.

      Kill some people if you are actually in danger. -Americans

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    • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      So what are you supposed to do? Call the police? THE POLICE? 🤣

      (The American police would shoot the victim, then ask the perp if they’re okay.)

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  • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Very US defaultism of you.

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  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you’re going to get a gun just use the gun. If you use yhe pepper spray and then the gun, cops are going to can you* because you shoot someone that was incapacitated

    *White men don’t need to worry about this.

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    • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      *White men don’t need to worry about this.

      *Rich white men don’t need to worry about this

      Poor white men aren’t exactly safe from this either, pigs are pigs, they fuck everyone over.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe ask a lawyer in your area before taking legal advice from lemmy, as both above comments are poor legal advice.

      It highly depends on your area, but having OC spray for “normal threats” as they’re called is sound advice, it is not legal to shoot people until they become a “deadly threat” (by a jury’s decision, not yours) and you’re in immanent danger of death or great bodily injury (hospital type stuff).

      However, simply “them fighting through the spray” may not be enough without a disparity in force (if he’s 6’4" and she’s 5’0", if there’s multiple attackers, if he’s armed with a blunt/sharp instrument or gun, etc) to bump him up to the “deadly” category. If there are other extenuating factors like listed it may be fine. In some areas you have to retreat to the best of your ability and couldn’t “just shoot him if he starts chasing you” you’d have to run until it became clear escape was impossible.

      Do not take anything I say here as fact for your area either, it is HIGHLY variable is kinda my whole point, look up your local laws before if you’re considering buying/carrying a gun, or even for carrying OC spray (illegal in NYC, for instance, and many states have limits on strength, etc).

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Wow these comments are a trash fire.

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Almost like this is a submission specifically posted to elicit that exact response.

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    • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Oh no, a joke about the experiences of women. This must have been posted to spite me specifically

      Your are a joke

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  • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    What exactly do you expect when you post something like this?

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• eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My god, I am a cis male and I don’t feel threatened or targeted by this. I think there’s a reason why certain men feel attacked.

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  • Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Same, i also don’t like to walk around at night. And it’s not because i’m afraid to get hit on by some random women.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Seriously man, it’s so fucking cringe. I though this website would be better than the pathetic comments here, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I should have expected to see a bunch of whining when I opened the thread.

    I’m also cis male and I am worried about strange men coming near me at night when no one is around. Because, you know, muggers and shit. They murder sometimes too. Does that make you whiny little bitches’ hurt feelings go away?

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    • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My brother is a cis male too, he was assaulted and robbed, but two males (at least seemingly so, can’t exactly say what they ideify as 6 years later).

      Just a bunch of males who only complain about the statistics of men being harmed when women talk about systemtic sexism. They’d probably also loudly claim that white people are victims of racism too when a black people talks about being harassed by cops.

      Fucking hate Reddit 2.0 for this shit.

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    • Freefall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yup, and we are less likely to be targeted. Also, not a whole lot of women out there murdering around town at night.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because you are solipsistic, that’s why

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    • _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      tfw you can’t see women as anything other than sex objects and you just assume everyone else is like you

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    • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Don’t need to, your momma already lets me in nightly 😎

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• 2ugly2live@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Random woman: I like late night walks, but I’m scared for my safety.

  This thread for some reason: YOU DON’T THINK MEN GET SCARED? MURDERED!?

  Like, chill. Yes, men can absolutely be murdered/hurt walking alone. But are we really going to sit here and act like women are making up their concerns/grievances out of spite? For some reason, if anyone mentions a general concern/issue related to women’s experiences with men, some people trip over themselves to say how it’s actually not an issue and how it’s actually so much worse for men. If I’m listening to a male DV victim and I go, “well, actually, women are more likely to be victims of DV. You know, it’s actually not even an issue for you. Here, look at these numbers that prove that women are the victims. Do you not mention it because you hate women? Why are you trying to ruin our spotless reputation as delicate flowers that can do no wrong with your lies”, you would think I was nuts, and for good reason.

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  • KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Read the text again, there is no mention of fear. It doesn’t even mention anyone being scared. It says something else.

    Also: women do in fact make shit up. For many reasons, including spite.

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  • Ebber@lemmings.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Men really are the most emotional of the sexes, we should ensure that they don’t have control over anything important like a nation.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m surprised it evokes this level of defensiveness. Isn’t man-on-man crime a problem too? Nothing about the post says men can’t be victims too.

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  • stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Also men in this thread: THIS US LITERALLY EXACTLY LIKE RACISM

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• Surp@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  statista.com/…/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-gend…

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  • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Although statistically, it should be males being afraid to walk home at night.

    statista.com/…/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender…

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• Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Regurgitated bear meme is stale

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• weeeeum@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You are 10x more likely to die by falling, car crash or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered.

  You are 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered, as a woman.

  Women are actually much less likely to get murdered in general.

  Stop villainizing men. This is equally as idiotic as villainizing POC because they have higher crime rates Dont sink to the level of the GOP by generalizing. The unfair alienation of young men is real, and ultimately cost us the election, just so we can feel better than them.

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  • eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’ve been told my whole life, by men, that I can’t go out at night alone, because men, but if I say it it’s forbidden, because woman. Explain.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You to the woman taking a cab home after a night at the club: “Ma’am, don’t you know you’re 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentional poisoning? Why don’t you walk home alone instead of taking the cab?”

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  • Freefall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “She just got raped, beaten and robbed, that totally isn’t a murder! Women are safer than men!” sheesh, talk about not making a point…

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re a dumbass. Stop gaslighting women. /A man

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  • MildlyArdvark@feddit.dk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I find these numbers intriguing. Where did you get them from?

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    • weeeeum@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Unintentional deaths www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

      Homicide statistics statista.com/…/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender…

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    • hamburger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      From his imagination.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fear of zombies could be at an all time high but that doesn’t mean we should implement policies to deal with the risk of zombie invasion.

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    • mongoosedadei@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Dara O Brian?

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• acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t criticize if you haven’t murdered yet.

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• _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  lemmy.world mods finding out that they’ve cultivated a community of reddit incels:

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This from a user on an instance that’s known for their open villification of any opinion that goes against the moscow and beijing dictated groupthi–

    Wait, wait hold on. Could it possibly be that we both have deeply subjective views of the other large instances, because humans fall to tribalism faster than a kitten on a sock full of catnip? Maybe there’s a vested interest on every side to keep the early adopters of a decentralized social media platform infighting over meaningless stereotypes based on the letters that come after their username, making value judgements based entirely on dictated preconceptions instead of experiential conclusions and honest interaction?

    … nah, it’s way more fun to just sling mud. Screw u, u commie scuzbucket.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m the last one to defend a tankie… But go fuck yourself.

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    • _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Could it possibly be that we both have deeply subjective views of the other large instances, because humans fall to tribalism faster than a kitten on a sock full of catnip?

      nope, it’s because your instance is operated by people who refuse to moderate disinformation under some naive belief that enough debate bro-ing is all it takes to defeat it, failing to understand that the effort it takes to proliferate hate and disinformation is much smaller than the effort it takes to refute it. as such, lemmy.world is becoming overrun with some of the most toxic motherfuckers on the entire platform because all the sane people are being driven away.

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    • Clodsire@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This from a user on an instance that’s known for having a large amounts of transphobic, homophobic, misogynist and racists users and a mod team that doesnt do the bare minimun to deal with them

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    • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      SJW here and I just wandered in, but now I’m grabbing the popcorn and a seat

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  • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When the Reddit 2.0 copies all the worst parts of Reddit: 🤯

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• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I blame women.

  For not murdering enough. The streets would be safer if men had the same fear.

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  • sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Psychopaths can’t feel fear

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  • Hexarei@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I too support women in men-dominated fields

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  • Moc@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I blame women.

    😡🍴

    For not murdering enough

    😮‍💨👍

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  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean, most women probably have experience with cleaning up blood.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wonder if that’s throwing off the statistics.

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    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ive had 2 (and a half) nosebleeds this week, can confirm.
      (I’m fine it’s just the dry+cold weather)

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  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Men are killed more often. But men generally have less fear. We go boldly unto death.

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    • _lunar@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      who’s killing the men?

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    • Shou@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not being bold, that’s supression of risk assesment and reduction on consequence sensitivity. Brought on by testosterone.

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  • gift_of_gab@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I blame women.

    For not murdering enough. The streets would be safer if men had the same fear.

    Delilah Bon agrees.

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• Sniatch@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Reading the comments make me feel like I’m reading 4chan. How are people getting triggered by that post

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• Majorllama@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What and guys aren’t worried about being murdered by other dudes at night? Lol

  www.victimsweek.gc.ca/res/r512.html#:~:text=In th…)%20than%20women.

  Statistically men are more likely to be attacked, robbed, sexually assaulted (in a public institution) and shot than women.

  statista.com/…/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender….

  Men are more likely to be murdered in general.

  statista.com/…/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender…

  Violent crimes happen to men more than women on average.

  I am a HUGE advocate for women staying safe. I think more women need to purchase and properly learn how to use a personal high speed lead slinging device.

  HOWEVER I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims. Statistically they aren’t more frequently attacked or murdered. In fact they are slightly less likely to be victims. Bad people are gonna do bad things and everyone should learn to protect themselves against those bad people.

  DOUBLE HOWEVER Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

  google.com/…/victims-and-perpetrators-of-reported…

  At the end of the day everyone should stay safe. Keep your head on a swivel. Obtain and learn how to use a personal defense tool. Be smart.

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• dumbass@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t say I love murdering, but it is a neat little hobby to pass the time.

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• Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A healthy take that will surely result in good faith discussion.

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• Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This also depends on what kind of roads you have to walk on - highways suck for nighttime walks, because not only are you constantly on edge to try not to get run over, you also need to walk for miles to get anywhere.

  Suburbs are nicer, but the best is to walk in a park, but that raises your chances of getting murdered by a lot so idk

  I don’t know where I was going with this. I lost my train of thought.

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• Freefall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yup, and as a guy, I am not going home with two women that approach me in a bar after I flash some cash. Know your attackers and keep safe from them.

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• sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Gross to me that multiple comments here are ignoring this reality. Crimes committed by men against women in situations like that are so common that women aren’t protecting themselves unless they consider every unfamiliar man a potential threat.

  Obviously women can also commit crimes against men, but its so much less common that I don’t have to take precautions to protect myself against them.

  As a man it kind of sucks when you are assumed to be dangerous even when you aren’t, but you need to get over it. Its not worth it for women to compromise their safety, and assume you to not be a threat just to make you feel better.

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• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ah, misandry, my old friend.

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• houstoneulers@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yikes. Someone makes a gender based overgeneralization when overwhelming evidence (look at crime stats) proves it incorrect, and those that dare to defend that group get attacked.

  Bigotry is bigotry. If you hate a group purely based on their superficial membership, then you are bigoted.

  www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot#:~:text=…)%20with%20hatred%20and%20intolerance

  The strongest argument you have is when you compare violence perpetrated by gender. But even then, that doesn’t support your argument that all men are evil in some way. And at such low numbers, it’s disingenuous deflection b/c even the two summed up don’t account for even 1% of the population. Sad that so many of you have brain rot.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How is this not bigotry and discrimination toward a group of population?

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• KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  God forbid men do anything

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• spacesatan@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh cool we’re back in … 2010? and we’re doing FBI crime stats discourse again, except with a different category breakdown.

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• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The world would be a better place without us. I feel shameful for existing.

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• sumguyonline@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bitch wouldn’t be so scared if she had mad bo staff skills… Napoleon tried to show ya’ll, but everyone just laughed… Tina you fat lard come and get some dinner!

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• GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Get your pet bear to walk you!

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• Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s incredible. You guys spent the good part of the last 8 years alienating the male voter

  Then you lost the election, in part because of that.

  And instead of reconsidering

  You guys double down

  It’s almost admirable, if it weren’t for the constant complaining about losing the election.

  I mean if you are gonna do this, pushing away half of voters, then don’t be surprised you lose against JD Vance in 2028 elections

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• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Women can’t murder?

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