I blame women.
For not murdering enough. The streets would be safer if men had the same fear.
The one drawback to walking at night
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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Moc@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I blame women.
😡🍴
For not murdering enough
😮💨👍
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
I mean, most women probably have experience with cleaning up blood.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I wonder if that’s throwing off the statistics.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
ive had 2 (and a half) nosebleeds this week, can confirm.
(I’m fine it’s just the dry+cold weather)
gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I blame women.
For not murdering enough. The streets would be safer if men had the same fear.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
Men are killed more often. But men generally have less fear. We go boldly unto death.
Shou@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s not being bold, that’s supression of risk assesment and reduction on consequence sensitivity. Brought on by testosterone.
Hexarei@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
I too support women in men-dominated fields
juan@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
Wow calling for the death of innocent people based on gender.
The fuck is wrong with Lemmy upvotng this.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
its a joke fella.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
I’m thinking more of a voluntary program.
That shadowm’n on her 1am walk is gonna get away if I’m with her and she ices me right there in the park 🫠 she’s allowed to do it. It happens all the time…
sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Psychopaths can’t feel fear
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This also depends on what kind of roads you have to walk on - highways suck for nighttime walks, because not only are you constantly on edge to try not to get run over, you also need to walk for miles to get anywhere.
Suburbs are nicer, but the best is to walk in a park, but that raises your chances of getting murdered by a lot so idk
I don’t know where I was going with this. I lost my train of thought.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Easy solution: bring a bear. Much less chance of being murdered, and the bear gets to shit in the woods. Well, park, but close enough.
Sconrad122@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Instructions unclear, hid roadkill bear in Central Park
RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Easy solution: live in a safe country! We have no fears of night walks in Canada.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Until your bear meets RFK jr in the park
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
My suburb neighborhood is filled with walkers and it is super unsafe at night. They decided when they built it that they didn’t want to to create and maintain sidewalks and street lamps, so people always walk in the road and the only lights are the lamp posts at the end of people’s driveways. And almost nobody wears reflectives, or carries lights or anything on their person. Particularly when you’re blinded by an oncoming car’s lights, it’s nearly impossible to see people until you’re right up on them.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s so stupid and shortsighted. Living environments are not just the inside of our homes - it includes the outside, the neighbourhood, and the options you have to travel in and out of there. All of this together decide your quality of life inside your home.
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
but the best is to walk in a park, but that raises your chances of getting murdered by a lot so idk
Is this a vibes-based take of do you actually have any stats on the matter?
Fwiw, the best is hands down a walk in a still kind of crowded city center. Few things bring as much security as eyes on the street
Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
That’s your problem. You’re supposed to be walking, not riding a train…
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
You’ll be fine if you just keep away from Assault Av., Murder Blvd. and Stabbing St.
/S
Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
In the US walking outside is generally terrible even in the suburbs.
Majorllama@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What and guys aren’t worried about being murdered by other dudes at night? Lol
www.victimsweek.gc.ca/res/r512.html#:~:text=In th…)%20than%20women.
Statistically men are more likely to be attacked, robbed, sexually assaulted (in a public institution) and shot than women.
statista.com/…/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender….
Men are more likely to be murdered in general.
statista.com/…/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender…
Violent crimes happen to men more than women on average.
I am a HUGE advocate for women staying safe. I think more women need to purchase and properly learn how to use a personal high speed lead slinging device.
HOWEVER I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims. Statistically they aren’t more frequently attacked or murdered. In fact they are slightly less likely to be victims. Bad people are gonna do bad things and everyone should learn to protect themselves against those bad people.
DOUBLE HOWEVER Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.
google.com/…/victims-and-perpetrators-of-reported…
At the end of the day everyone should stay safe. Keep your head on a swivel. Obtain and learn how to use a personal defense tool. Be smart.
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I wonder if the murder rates are skewed by organized crime/gangs. That has a male skewed gender ratio and high murder rates.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
Gangs drive murder rates. Looking at areas in the US without gang activity, the murder rate is almost as low anywhere else in the world.
Majorllama@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Almost certainly.
Unfortunately it’s very difficult to pull apart big data sets accurately. It’s difficult to pin down what murders are for sure gang related and which ones aren’t. Obviously there are some situations where it’s very clear, but some where it is not. Where you draw that line changes things significantly.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims.
who said this?
honest query. I don’t see it in OP’s statement. You do corroborate their premise -
Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.
so why the strawman argument at the start?
GlenRambo@jlai.lu 4 weeks ago
So of the photo was of a man, bit with the same text it would be ok. Right? Both you, me, and the woman in the photo agree that men are the problem.
“Not all men” agreed, but enough to men to make others afraid.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
Ohh is this the part where you break it down further and try to say because statistically PoC are more likely to commit crimes that PoC are the problem?
troglodytis@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Wow. That is a whole lot of getting your undies in a wad over a meme that does NOT exclude any gender feeling this way.
You brought a bunch of bias to this one. Might want to look into why that is
Soulg@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I dunno feels to me like you’re the one getting upset about his post and not vice versa.
houstoneulers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
username checks out
shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
There are shittons of rape & murder fantasy communities with secretly taken & stolen pictures on porn & snuff websites, on the snuff websites there’s unfortunately also real stuff.
This is something I really didn’t want to know. I wouldn’t want to walk in the shoes of my gf honestly just judging from the amount of harassment she faces in liberal, progressive western cities by men of all age & skin color (need to say this nowadays unfortunately). Add to that being physically inferior that creates a sense of being constantly threatened. Also, they are targeted specifically because they are women and femicide is a real, bad issue.
Not disagreeing that anyone could be affected, just saying I can easily walk at night because no one would target me specifically for being a man.
Majorllama@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Clearly you’ve never been jumped lol. It’ll give you a whole new perspective on the world and walking around alone as a guy.
I find it gross that you referred to your own girlfriend as “physically inferior”. I think the better term is physically at a disadvantage.
MataVatnik@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I routinely would go on long walks at all hours of the night (like 3am), with headphones on. Ive done this in the US, Brazil, and Europe in all kinds of neighborhoods. I was a 180lb male and I somewhat consciously and subconsciously would put on the lunatic vibe of “I am the one who knocks”.
Now I started my transition, down to 150 lbs, dressing more feminine. Still have a decent amount of muscle but Truuust me, the vibe is not the same. This meme is valid.
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
I’m a cis man and closer to 140 lbs (with average height). And though I don’t regularly go out for night walks, when I do I don’t feel particularly unsafe. A little more cautious perhaps, especially around groups of drunk people but that’s about it.
If I were forced to fight the average person I meet at night I would literally have to resort to using my damn teeth or expect to be beaten up to a pulp at the very least.
Still, the risk of me ending up in such a situation is tiny. I’m far more likely to be run over by a car - which actually almost happened a couple weeks back had I not paid attention.
Honestly, I think large parts of women’s fear at night in the US is culture dependent. You don’t have walkable streets over there so children don’t have the opportunity to walk to kindergarten or school. Over here in winter children are literally walking to school at night, before sunrise.
You do have a shitton of neverending fear mongering. Like, the concept of “Amber Alerts” is absurd over here in Europe, I can’t imagine what this would’ve done to me as a child if I had been told on a daily basis that strangers are out to get me.
Tl;dr it’s probably culture dependent
lazyViking@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You write like you are disagreeing with something in this post, in your own small pathetic way. But I fail to see what part of the post you are disagreeing with
Freefall@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s a lot of not making a point. The girl in the OP is still worried about walking at night and the most common threat to a woman in that situation is still men. You didn’t counterpoint any of that, so it is just you shouting into the wind about stuff no one is talking about. Cool.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
The girl in the OP is still worried about walking at night and the most common threat to a woman in that situation is still men. You didn’t counterpoint any of that,
Here’s one. In my area, statistically I’m more likely to be physically assaulted by an african american male than anyone else, does that make it ok for me to post things like “I can’t go walking at night because some black men like to murder?” Clearly NO, because I’ve simply added one demographic factor, that is still statistically more likely to attack me, and that makes it racist. Just because I am more likely to be attacked by a black guy because of the actions of a small subset of that demographic doesn’t mean it’s ok to treat every one of them as an attacker, and I’d argue the same goes for race agnostic “men” generalizations based on a small subset of that demographic either, even though statistically an attacker is more likely to be a man as well.
prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
But it is not because of being women per se. You are an easier target to get robbed for example…
sumguyonline@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I personally have mad bo staff skills. I fear no man. Grizzly’s scare me, but no man.
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What those statistics do not take into account is the different incidence rates of men/women being out alone at night.
Because women feel more afraid going out into the dark alone, they’re less likely to do so, creating less opportunities for them to be robbed/raped/killed.
To make an analogy:
What are my chances to drown in the sea if I never go swimming in the sea? 0% chance.
What if I go swimming once a week, with a risk of drowning of 0.5% each time I do so: then there’s ~23% chance that I’ll drown by the end of the year.
What if go swimming twice a year, but because I’m such an amateur the chance that I drown is 5%: there is ~10% chance that I drown by the end of the year.Conclusion: even though it is 10x more dangerous for the inexperienced swimmer to go swimming in the sea, in a given year the experienced swimmer is still 2.3 times more likely to drown in the sea than the inexperienced one.
MITM0@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Forget about it, there’s no talking or reasoning with man-haters
It’s going to be fun when the GenderKKK attacks these male-feminists, because they’re men
prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
These people are the most annoying ones. Yet they hate to be called feminazis. And I know why is this: because it is SO ACCURATE.
prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
It’s amazing you get negatives just because that stats aren’t looking so well for that. Sorry but as always these chihuahuas getting negatives without counterarguments is the most annoying part…
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I always use statistics to consider who I watch out on the street
sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Gross to me that multiple comments here are ignoring this reality. Crimes committed by men against women in situations like that are so common that women aren’t protecting themselves unless they consider every unfamiliar man a potential threat.
Obviously women can also commit crimes against men, but its so much less common that I don’t have to take precautions to protect myself against them.
As a man it kind of sucks when you are assumed to be dangerous even when you aren’t, but you need to get over it. Its not worth it for women to compromise their safety, and assume you to not be a threat just to make you feel better.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Obviously women can also commit crimes against men, but its so much less common that I don’t have to take precautions to protect myself against them.
Yeah, I’ve never had second-thoughts about walking past some dangerous-looking women or checking over my shoulder to make sure some woman isn’t following me home. This is a regular thing that women deal with, and pretending that the experiences are anywhere close to equivalent is odd.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Crimes committed by random strangers against women are practically non-existent. Women absolutely need to fear their creepy neighbors or angry ex, as people they know are the actual risks.
IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org 4 weeks ago
Is it really common though? Looking at the generalized US stats its seems that 95%+ of women murdered are by a person they know. Where as for men that stat is 78%. Its pretty rare to get murdered let alone murdered outside on the street. Most* people fear strangers because of news events not because of likelihood.
Random murders just aren’t common and random women murders are even less common. Even rape and sexual assault the stats of random attacks on the street are very low. cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/c…
This is for the US, I’d expect it to be far lower for most other countries.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
My god, I am a cis male and I don’t feel threatened or targeted by this. I think there’s a reason why certain men feel attacked.
_lunar@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
2ugly2live@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Random woman: I like late night walks, but I’m scared for my safety.
This thread for some reason: YOU DON’T THINK MEN GET SCARED? MURDERED!?
Like, chill. Yes, men can absolutely be murdered/hurt walking alone. But are we really going to sit here and act like women are making up their concerns/grievances out of spite? For some reason, if anyone mentions a general concern/issue related to women’s experiences with men, some people trip over themselves to say how it’s actually not an issue and how it’s actually so much worse for men. If I’m listening to a male DV victim and I go, “well, actually, women are more likely to be victims of DV. You know, it’s actually not even an issue for you. Here, look at these numbers that prove that women are the victims. Do you not mention it because you hate women? Why are you trying to ruin our spotless reputation as delicate flowers that can do no wrong with your lies”, you would think I was nuts, and for good reason.
lurklurk@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If you see something like this and get angry at women, you have a problem.
At best it’s a problem with reading comprehension. At worst, you’re worried that things like this could get in the way of your murdering-women hobby.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ah, misandry, my old friend.
weeeeum@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You are 10x more likely to die by falling, car crash or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered.
You are 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered, as a woman.
Women are actually much less likely to get murdered in general.
Stop villainizing men. This is equally as idiotic as villainizing POC because they have higher crime rates Dont sink to the level of the GOP by generalizing. The unfair alienation of young men is real, and ultimately cost us the election, just so we can feel better than them.
Sniatch@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Reading the comments make me feel like I’m reading 4chan. How are people getting triggered by that post
Rooty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
A healthy take that will surely result in good faith discussion.
KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
God forbid men do anything
houstoneulers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yikes. Someone makes a gender based overgeneralization when overwhelming evidence (look at crime stats) proves it incorrect, and those that dare to defend that group get attacked.
Bigotry is bigotry. If you hate a group purely based on their superficial membership, then you are bigoted.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot#:~:text=…)%20with%20hatred%20and%20intolerance
The strongest argument you have is when you compare violence perpetrated by gender. But even then, that doesn’t support your argument that all men are evil in some way. And at such low numbers, it’s disingenuous deflection b/c even the two summed up don’t account for even 1% of the population. Sad that so many of you have brain rot.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Women can’t murder?
kikutwo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s a shame that women molest 13 year old boys.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
Bears win again
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Wow these comments are a trash fire.
Ajel@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Come to Finland, safe to walk at night
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s incredible. You guys spent the good part of the last 8 years alienating the male voter
Then you lost the election, in part because of that.
And instead of reconsidering
You guys double down
It’s almost admirable, if it weren’t for the constant complaining about losing the election.
I mean if you are gonna do this, pushing away half of voters, then don’t be surprised you lose against JD Vance in 2028 elections
RedStrider@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
damnn these comments are why i don’t recommend this platform to anyone i know.
i think i’m going to change instances after this.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
The problem isn’t men who love to commit murder but women who love murderers
#feminismkillsacockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
Don’t criticize if you haven’t murdered yet.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
How is this not bigotry and discrimination toward a group of population?
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
That’s why you get a gun. Practice and be prepard to use. Don’t ever hesitate, someone tries to attack you, regardless of gender, they forfeit their right to life.
(Also get pepper spray in case you are in a dangerous situation, but its not enough to warrant a deadly response, then just fucking spray them, and run. If they chase after you, fucking shoot them.)
This advice goes for both men and women.
TLDR: Get pepper spray, and get a gun. Use them in that order.
spacesatan@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
Oh cool we’re back in … 2010? and we’re doing FBI crime stats discourse again, except with a different category breakdown.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Regurgitated bear meme is stale
dumbass@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
I wouldn’t say I love murdering, but it is a neat little hobby to pass the time.
BlueLineBae@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
Just one little murder… As a treat.
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Luigi: “Treat yoself!”
dumbass@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
I’ve earnt it this week!
FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
#selfcare #mindfulness
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I hear some people get over the cravings with a homicide patch.
Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Would you like to join my Hobby-Murder-Group? We meet twice a Month to drink, smoke and play MarioParty and murder of course.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Getting your star stolen in MarioParty is probably the leading cause for most of the murders.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m trying to cut down myself.