Get your pet bear to walk you!
The one drawback to walking at night
Submitted 2 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Corno@lemm.ee 2 months ago
As a girl, I love taking walks in the evening/night or early in the morning, they really are a vibe! However if there’s a man who appears to be following behind me, I always grab my keys in my pocket to be ready to fight in case he tries anything. I will also text friends/family when I’m going out and text them when I arrive back home.
Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m tired of feeling alienated for being male. I’m tired of the default consideration for what a man is being a rapist and a murderer; someone dangerous not to be implicitly trusted; someone you should own a gun to protect yourself from. I’m tired of being labelled a cis man because saying just man would imply that trans men could ever be monsters like us. I go out wearing a skirt and heels and I am trusted, women approach me, give me compliments, ask me for directions. I go out without shaving and am embraced by callousness. If I could ask one thing, if you wouldn’t be comfortable using the word “brother,” “father,” “son,” “boyfriend” or “husband,” don’t use the word “man” or “men.” Use another word. A murderer doesn’t have to be tied to their gender.
blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m sorry it bothers you like that.
I personally don’t feel alienated or attacked at all by the kinds of comments you are describing. When I see a comment like “men murder women”, I think of it in the same kind of way comments like “humans are horrible” or “Australians are racist” or “young people have no attention span”… That is to say it describes a trend or someone’s perception of a tendency but does not refer to any specific individual.
People aren’t saying these things to attack you. They are saying them to communicate their own feelings of being unsafe. And to be frank, feeling that you shouldn’t go for a walk at night because it is too dangerous is a pretty serious thing which has obvious negative effects - and the concern is based in reality. It isn’t just a perception problem. So we should take these comments seriously - not just complain about the people saying them.
Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 months ago
How do you feel when someone says women are whores, Germans are Nazis or Africans are slaves? I feel offended and outraged. I don’t care if there are women who work as prostitutes, that most Nazis were Germans and that the trans-atlantic slave trade systematically enslaved a culture group. It’s irrelevant. You’re discriminating and dehumanising these people. But in these times it’s normal to hear men are trash, they’re rapists, they murder. So people are numb to it. They don’t care about it. They will justify it by insisting men are of a position of privilege. That all men intentionally built a patriarchal society to indulge themselves. Most men I know are just people. They want change. They are being alienated and that alienation drives them towards those that actually are the thing people claim men are.
I think you said it well “we should take these comments seriously - not just complain about the people saying them.” I just wish people would say it about men.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Imagine if you had to deal with actually being targeted as a minority or woman. You’d be so mad, dude.
Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m a guy who dresses like a girl. I get cat called, threatened to be raped and then called a faggot and thrown into a position where I have to physically defend myself. Yet as you have so eloquently shown people who aren’t horny for me, see me as a man first. My privilege is assumed and as such I am not granted the community that the above white woman automatically receives. I am fucking mad. You’re looking at injustice passively, like it’s my fault.
Where is your fucking anger?
KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
You are not alone in feeling that. Everyone being angry about this in here probably feels the same. And it’s incredibly ingenuine to on one hand say this post communicates feelings about fear of going outside and/or men, while simultaneously dismissing feelings of anger at being called a murderer.
My own comment being dismissive of this post (because it’s a shitpost, that’s the literal community here) was deleted.
Another one where I say “women lie” is being downvoted and it was (softly) implied I’m a murderer for saying this (The comment says “You are the man we are afraid of”, context is “men like to murder” as of the OP). The reply and votes to the “women lie” one means people do in fact notice that an overgeneralization hurts. They just don’t care if it hurts men. Presumably because “men are murderers” and are thus not allowed a voice besides belittling themselves.
It’s just sad.
Fleur_@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I made a reply to blind3rdeye where I mirrored some of your sentiments. I have a hard time finding mutual empathy with people. When anyone talks about the unique pain of belonging to certain groups I try my hardest to trust them. I do this because of how much dismissiveness there is of men’s issues.
_lunar@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
the difference is your generalization isn’t based in statistical fact. women who lie about false rape accusations (i assume that’s what you’re trying to get at here) are such an unfathomably small minority that no man ever has to live their life considering it. by saying that this is something women in do in equivalence to what women are saying men do, you’re implying otherwise and implying the authenticity of countless women’s experiences with sexual violence at the hands of men is invalid. experiences which are already seldom believed by the people who need to hear it.
on the other hand, a substantial amount of women experience sexual violence from men. it’s statistically common enough that women have to live in fear and that conventional wisdom has long held that women should not go out at night alone, carry mace, etc. etc. etc.
bottom line is, it’s a false equivalency that serves only to invalidate the reality women must face, and what you’re trying to equate it to is that reality. you are harming women by doing this.
it does not harm men to point out what a significant enough amount of them to be dangerous to women at large are doing. you are not personally affected by women saying that men are violent or murderers, but women are personally affected by your exaggerated claims of dishonesty when they speak out against this violence.
sumguyonline@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Bitch wouldn’t be so scared if she had mad bo staff skills… Napoleon tried to show ya’ll, but everyone just laughed… Tina you fat lard come and get some dinner!
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The world would be a better place without us. I feel shameful for existing.
lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Stop murdering women and you’ll be fine
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well, I am not so…
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Men really can’t do anything fun anymore 😔
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
women fear being murdered by men they’ve rejected and strangers
– oof ouch owie my male feelings!
nthavoc@lemmy.today 2 months ago
It’s ok “The Picard Maneuver” everyone has their shitpost day … wait where am I again??
Freefall@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yup, and as a guy, I am not going home with two women that approach me in a bar after I flash some cash. Know your attackers and keep safe from them.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Also dress modestly to make sure you don’t provoke men with your body.
Go away.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
You joke but I do that, I don’t want to appear like I have any money, so if I’m going to be out at night I wear my shitty Timex most often instead of the fancy (looking) Nixon, ripped thrifted sweatshirts instead of Supreme (or whatever brand is popular now), etc. Nobody’s robbing the guy who looks like he’s about to explain how he just needs $23 to get a bus ticket and if you could just help…
realitista@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Gotta admit, I do love me some murderin’
kandoh@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Every male animal that works or lives in close contact with humans has it’s testicles removed so it calms down and stops causing problems.
Except the human animal of course, because they’re the ones running the show and they’d have issues with removing their balls.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 months ago
God forbid we have MEN be treated as ordinary people.
Should the government have official eunuchs just like the Chinese did actually
You know we could fix a lot of shit by having trump cut his balls off
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
You know we could fix a lot of shit by having trump cut his balls off
Not so sure, Hitler only had one. If the correlation goes any direction it seems less balls = more evil, maybe we need to add a few more?
kandoh@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Why are you interpreting this as a personal attack? So fragile
Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 months ago
So, at what age are you proposing this to be done? Would you be proposing the reversible version of a vasectomy? Who decides if its allowed to be reversed? Are you advocating for a worldwide birth decline, because most men would rather have the sex without the burden/scare of pregnancy anyway, so if they were forced to do it why would they undo it? Are you prepared for the christian-ethno state to form when the only people having kids will be the ultra-religious who believe in a stupid fucking sky daddy who tells them to have 60 billion children? Did you consider ANY of that before writing this stupid fucking comment that compares getting your cat neutered so he doesnt piss on the Furniture to getting human males neutered so they dont… kill someone in an allyway??
kandoh@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Oh my god you’re right. What a fool I’ve been advocating that we geld humans like farm animals and I never considered the dystopian implications of that. Thank you for showing me the light, brother 🙏
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This why we can’t have nice things
bawdy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
That sucks man. I love night walks too, especially through secluded areas and when it’s super dark, overcast and windy. There is something very enjoyable and exhilarating about being outside, invisible and unnoticed in a busy world. I feel bad that you don’t get to enjoy that.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 months ago
ITT:
lemmy fans learn Lemmy isn’t special
Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 2 months ago
[deleted]Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
what’s 13/50?
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Nazi dogwistle.
Majorllama@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s a reference to the statistics that despite the fact that blacks only make up 13% of the US population they are responsible for 50% of the overall crime.
“Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.”
While the statistics themselves are accurate they are far from explaining the whole situation.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I like to do a fun exercise every time I read something like this.
Swap the word for who you are accusing with some other group. If this make the statement distasteful then the statement is distasteful in it’s orginal form.
The Left like to blame men, the right like to blame immigrants so for example: “it’s a shame immigrants love to commit murder”.
Why is it okay to say men love to murder but not immigrants?
MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m gonna miss being a cis gendered man sometimes.
_lunar@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
If I said cops are racist, would y’all really think I’m being biased against cops? After all, it’s not all cops. 🙄
sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
There’s not enough education about psychopaths and the dangerous subtypes like dark-triad psychopathy.
I only learned about it in my mid twenties.
If we taught about it there could be prevented a lot of harm.
If you don’t know about it chances are that you always ask yourself „how could someone do This?!“
Simply because they have characteristics that are so far away from your world of feelings and perception of social stuff that you are incapable of understanding it unless you get informed, at least this was my situation.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I disagree. Everyone is free to make their decisions. Whether it is a feeling of good and evil, a philosophical or religious belief or a simple “I don’t like jail time” does not matter. Also, there is a very slippery slope of “this guy has an evil mind, better lock him up before he does something”.
ynthrepic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How is anyone free? You don’t pick your gradese or parents or where you’re born and grow up, which friends you happen to make, or what opportunities come your way in life both for gain and for loss, trauma, abuse. How any of his grow into adulthood as fully functional compassionate human beings seems like a miracle, unless as OC said, you recognize that some people simply are just wired for evil.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Well Picard Manoeuvre has made the odious post, whatever his reasons he now belongs in prison for a long time.