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  • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mosquitoes have killed more humans than every disease ever along with every war ever, combined

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    • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But what will happen when the humans lose their natural predators, we might destroy our habita- ah, right. Nevermind

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      • Assman@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Mosquitos are just trying to save the planet by murdering as many people as possible

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Here’s a Venn diagram:

        Humans getting killed by mosquitos O

          O

        Humans at fault for habitat destruction

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    • Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If those creatures that also eat mosquitoes cannot eat them anymore, that means they would have to eat other bugs, possibly fucking up all the ecosystem.

      That said, fuck mosquitoes, they can take blood from other places

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      • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All of our best data on the impact says that it really wouldn’t matter. Sometimes a species is a linchpin for the ecosystem, and sometimes it isn’t.

        Sucks for mosquitoes, but there’s a very real chance that we’ll smallpox them, and the biggest concern will be our confidence that the virus we use doesn’t impact other species unintentionally.

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      • protist@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’re largely applying this technique to invasive species of mosquitoes, eg Aedes aegypti, which is a potent vector of disease and native of Africa that has spread worldwide only within the past 200 years

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      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They also eat nectar and are pollinators of various plants.

        There’s no way we could simply remove a creature as numerous and widespread as mosquitoes without any consequences.

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      • Dabundis@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If we were to somehow magically remove mosquitos from existence in an instant, we’d better hope something fills their ecological niche quickly

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      • mihor@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Found the mosquito.

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    • Dabundis@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I understand what you’re saying here, but the set of people killed by “every disease ever” includes the entire set of people killed by mosquito-borne diseases. Mosquitoes can’t have killed more people than every disease ever because mosquitoes’ kill count is part of every disease ever.

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      • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Edit: when excluding malaria.

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    • TheRedSpade@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mosquitoes have killed more humans than every disease ever

      How do they kill us outside of spreading disease?

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      • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They manipulate the weather using space lasers from their fake hollow moon above our flat earth.

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      • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        By distracting drivers into causing accidents? Statistically speaking… probably.

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  • jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a crime against nature and god and decency, and mosquitos are probably the only place I’d be absolutely, completely for it.

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    • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are probably a few handfuls of other parasites that would count too.

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      • Hule@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, do ticks next!

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      • Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fucking bedbugs!

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    • amzd@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Animal farming is a crime against nature, god and decency and we’re completely for that too, don’t forget

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  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would not want to see things like this done to the overwhelming majority of living things. But mosquitoes, I say let them starve.

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    • thesporkeffect@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
      • ticks, too
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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Most dangerous animal in our forests

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    • Hule@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Isn’t the blood only needed for procreation?

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      • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, (some, not all) female mosquitoes drink blood for the protein, which they need for egg production. Their actual diet is nectar.

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    • cuck4mai@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean, I hate mosquitoes as much as the next guy, but that sounds like a great way to destroy whole ecosystems that rely on mosquitoes as a food source.

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      • Sludgehammer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But keep in mind there are a lot of invasive populations of mosquitoes and some of them are disease carrying species. Since they’re invasive, by definition they’re not vital to the natural ecosystem and those populations could be safely wiped out.

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      • Lev_Astov@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Of all the creatures big and small we’ve driven extinct, mosquitoes will not likely be the one that breaks the camel’s back.

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  • fsxylo@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know it’s not that deep but if you type a whole ass paragraph in all caps I want to beat you with a shoe.

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    • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      👏 THANK 👏 YOU 👏

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      • Psaldorn@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        👟

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    • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      what about all lowercase? is that fine to you? do you just want to easily ignore me? am i small potatoes to you?

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      • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        nah, ricky, you’re no potatoes at all. 🔫

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    • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I KNOW. It’s like PICK your BATTLES people

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  • CptEnder@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok but mosquitoes historically are the #1 killers of humans, by an order of magnitude. This could be argued as a form of evolution. We simply engineered them out as a threat. GG get gud scrub, see you in 3 million years when you have your own AI generated bioengineering.

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    • exasperation@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok but mosquitoes historically are the #1 killers of humans, by an order of magnitude

      Homo sapien: am I a joke to you?

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      • nyctre@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        According to google, yeah. Mosquito-borne diseases are responsible for 52 billion deaths. I was extremely surprised myself.

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      • SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m pretty sure over history mosquitoes have killed far more people than people have.

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  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Up next on Info Wars: “They’re turning the mosquitoes gay!”

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sounds more like they are turning them trans than gay. So like a test run of the leftist plan for Republicans. Oh wait, are we allowed to talk about this outside of the secret meetings yet?

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      • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ha ha! He’s just joking 😁 !

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which is actually what happened to the frogs

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      • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think you’re asking for a kind of nuance that most Info Warriors are unable to provide.

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The gay frogs wereore trans than gay too, so the impersonation is spot on.

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  • thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tbh I wouldn’t be sad if we genetically modified mosquitoes to breed them out of existence like we’ve done with screw worm.

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    • Yokozuna@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My only problem with it is the fact that you’re taking a major insect class out of the ecosystem and later on down the line it might have serious implications. There will never be enough research on the effects of it until it’s too late to reverse. I hate mosquitoes (I live in Southern L.A.) but I don’t think this is the answer.

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      • HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think there was a campaign in china in the mid 20th century that tried to exterminate a bunch of pests like this and it lead to catastrophic famines or something.

        “The Four Evils Campaign” I think it was called.

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    • TheOakTree@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it’s a genius solution to the explicity problem, but a terrible solution in a larger scope. There are many animals that feed on mosquitos, and they would suffer from massive decreases in mosquito population. This includes birds, frogs, bats, fish, and other insects (many aquatic animals eat mosquito larvae). I would hate to see a cascading reduction in animal populations as a result of these tactics.

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      • hydrospanner@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I get the concern, and it’s a good concern to have when you’re talking about what would be such a huge shift in so many ecosystems…

        …buuuuuut…

        I have to believe this change would happen slowly… mosquitoes wouldn’t just go extinct over a holiday weekend. It’d take years, if not decades, of dedication to the eradication strategy and even then, certain populations may prove immune to the best efforts of science.

        That being said, even if it did execute as planned, I feel like the gradual decline of the mosquito would coincide with a gradual increase in other invertebrate species that would fill that niche. So as mosquito populations slowly declined in a local pond or creek, you’d see things like say chironomids (midges) thriving with the reduced competition for habitat, and the fish that ate mosquito larvae replacing that part of their diet with more midges.

        Not saying there couldn’t be other complications, but I don’t think we’d see results fast enough that we’d end up with a broken link of the food chain leading to ecosystem collapse.

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The Aedes Aegypt can go fuck itself with all the diseases it spreads to us. Also, anywhere where it showed up as an unwanted guest, like all Americas, nature will just roll back 3 centuries or so.

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    • mihor@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
      • What screw worm??
      • Exactly.
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      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        what frost giants?

        Vote odin

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right, but consider:

    Fuck them bugs

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    • loutr@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey, most bugs are cool and an important part of their ecosystem.

      Mosquitoes tho ? Yeah, fuck them.

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      • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        as much as i’d love to agree with that-

        mosquitos are pollinators and an important food source for quite a few animals. Our eco system would not be fine if we got rid of them

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    • prex@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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    • foiledAgain@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ironclad reasoning. Flawless execution. Give this person a doctorate

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  • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    VEM

    Vegan
    Except Mosquitos

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    • thesporkeffect@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I know what you meant but I just imagined someone grimly eating mosquitoes out of pure spite

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I saw a video of Africans scooping up pounds of them with nets, mashing 'em up and frying bug patties.

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      • protist@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Mosquito paste is delicious

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    • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah agreed, all life is sacred except the ones we don’t like.

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  • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I actually love seeing mosquitoes struggle to survive. I don’t care if they’re incapable of morality, they’re evil and I hate them.

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    • racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hate them too but they are just trying to eat and breed, just like us. So kill them with mercy.

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  • normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I find the compromise acceptable. Please roll out the mosquito killing technology asap.

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    • glitch1985@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Harbor freight sells an electric flyswatter. The time is now!

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  • Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am a hippy nature person who tries to be merciful and kind to plants or insects. The sole exception is mosquitoes. Those fuckers want to take my blood and dont settle for one serving if they get the chance. Were in a biological armrace and so far we’ve been loosing. Let’s see how they like being fucked with.

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    • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also ticks.

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  • bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We have suffered for millions of years under mosquitos are they are likely the biggest killer of humans in history. Maybe us evolving big brains and developing genetic engineering is an evolutionary necessity?

    Or as Harbinger said: “We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.”

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    • NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is that mass effect?

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  • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean, have you ever seen a pug? They’re fighting for air their entire life. Or chihuahua’s? Awful personality and bred out of usefulness.

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    • cjk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Chihuahuas can have a not completely closed cranial bone (is this the right word?), which means if you pet them at the wrong place you literally can touch the brain and potentially kill them. My mood would be bad, too, if this was the case for my body.

      Pugs also can have their eyes popping out if you handle them wrong (e.g. gripping them at their neck).

      The head of King Charles Spaniels are to small, meaning their brain does not have enough room. This can lead to brain fluids getting stuck in the head, which increases pressure on the brain, leading to infathomable headaches, hallucinations, motor deficits, etc, pp.

      Breeding some dog breeds should really be prohibited.

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    • CptEnder@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “You see what we do to the things we love??? What the fuck do you think we’re going to do to you?!”

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    • amzd@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or the chickens you eat? They can’t even stand up out of their own feces

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah they’re my soul animals

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As a Brazilian, I won’t feel sorry for these fuckers.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In pretty much every other context, yeah. But for real, fuck mosquitoes.

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  • nednobbins@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I get the feeling of discomfort but it’s basically the same feeling we get when someone breaks a pencil

    There is no evidence that a mosquito is capable of feeling the kind of despair or horror that a human would feel in a similar situation. It’s unlikely that mosquitos can form emotions at all.

    At the same time, a huge portion of human-animal interactions involve the human controlling the animal in ways that they animal can’t even comprehend. A dog has no idea you’re doing operant conditioning to change their behavior. Pigs have no idea they’re being fed just so they and their children can be eaten.

    The only way to avoid this kind of thing is to turn off your big human brain and go back to ape tier. We might need to go farther down the tier list than that though en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

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  • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s a bit like trying to watch a pug dog breath.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Genetically engineer them to grow to the size of Cessna. Ride them to battle

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That seems mild.

    Could we try to convince the males that they are the ugliest things on earth so they find large animals that can step on them?

    Maybe come up with a liquid that you put in standing water that makes the mosquitoes grow very tiny legs and a very large left wing? You know, so they have to fly to move and they can only fly spinning like crazy.

    I got a better one! Make them neon bright and glow in the dark. Make those fuckers be the center of attention. I’m talking kids with nets and old guys with cameras and microscopes with single mosquito flashes (like 1 mosquitoes per photo). And of course sugar sweet flavor? Everything under the sun trying to find them and eat them as snacks. I kinda like this one the best.

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  • discusseded@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is amazing. Far better than killing them off.

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  • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why not just eradicate them? Genuine question. I don’t think they serve any purpose in nature and are just pissing off every living being.

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  • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On the one hand this is creepy as hell

    On the other fuck mosquitoes

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had a fruit fly problem over the summer and felt guilty about the cruelty of the glue traps. But when it comes to mosquitos, roaches, and wasps, I’m Hitler. I would favor genetic alterations that expanded their capacity for suffering.

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  • socsa@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do vegans support this because it prevents mosquitoes from consuming animal flesh, or do they oppose it because it denies the mosquitoes their nature?

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    DIE, DIE, DIE

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cleanse the followers of Nurgle!

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I get the caution about unintended consequences but damnit of all the crazy planetary issues we’re dealing with right now, I’d rank

    “oops, got rid of West Nile and Malaria as well as annoying little red bumps from wandering too far from big cities”

    As a win, the consequences of which we can probably figure out how to deal with when we come to it.

    I know it doesn’t work that way but I’d trade all the world’s mosquitoes to keep the polar bears or pangolins or something any day.

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  • Tudsamfa@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Sheen, this is the 7th week in a row you’ve shown CRISPR modifications to the mosquito genome to curb malaria in class”

    Comments are all the same as when they made mosquitos infertile, unable to spread malaria or wingless too.

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  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We genetically engineered mosquitoes to have gender dysmorphia - weird times.

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