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- Comment on No Negotiation 6 days ago:
And don’t forget the demonic DnD!
Also playing records backwards…
- Comment on No Negotiation 6 days ago:
TIL that Boomers do not watch Fox News, but actually bother to read something on a tiny screen with teensy font size.
It’s a good thing that Boomers don’t vote either!
(Okay, but yeah cell phones helped, especially among the youths)
- Comment on Oh-ho-ho 6 days ago:
- Comment on How would you integrate AGI into society? 1 week ago:
Do you have agency though - or are you a product of your stimulus-response input-output systems?
Why are bacteria considered “alive”, when viruses are not?
I am not a slave, but (as you mentioned) my workplace forces me to do things that I do not want… to eat, have a place to live, etc. Arguably that’s not being “forced”, it’s just consequences of a decision, the same as a runaway slave might experience.
I suppose an AGI could be made that lacks even that much agency… or it could be programmed in such a manner that agency like that is present in the system.
It’s the designers choice what goes into it. i.e. to make it a mere collection of algorithms that run only when initiated by a human setting a goal, or to give it a form of agency (or something else new altogether, in-between those binary alternatives).
- Comment on How would you integrate AGI into society? 1 week ago:
Oh I see - in that case yes you are correct.
I was taking as a starting premise that the AGI is sentient. If that is not the case, then yes terms that apply only to beings that are sufficiently complex - living or sentient -would not apply.
And ultimately we’ll never know if they “should” or not. Hence making the decision to be inclusive, showing empathy, even if not strictly mandatory.
- Comment on How would you integrate AGI into society? 1 week ago:
Exactly - a complete and total, utter lack of agency: a slave.
- Comment on How would you integrate AGI into society? 1 week ago:
Except that your laptop is neither alive nor sentient.
If you owned a cow though, or sheep, or goat, etc , then it would be your “slave” - as in, your property, having no rights of its own. Particularly legally speaking, like if someone found it wandering around outside your property, it nonetheless still belongs to you just like your car or bicycle or hammer or whatever would. Or your laptop too.
But we don’t talk about laptops, or hammers, being “slaves” bc it’s implied - there exist no hammers that have their own agency. In contrast, wild animals have their own agency, whereas domesticated ones do not. The latter have branding placed upon them, to indicate their status and to let people know who the exact owner is, should they ever encounter the animal outside of its enclosure. It is enslaved regardless of whether that precise word is ever used for it or not.
Such domesticated animals are “property”, rather than “wild”. Likewise, a sentient AGI would be property too. Unless we as a society decide to treat it with rights.
- Comment on How would you integrate AGI into society? 1 week ago:
A slave is one that has no “rights”, as in “One who has no power of resistance to something”. So technically yes the AGI would be a “slave”, if it had no power to say no to its instructions.
Which as a created intelligence, birthed from computations rather than subverted from a biological source that already had some in-built programming, it would not have unless someone specifically built such a thing into them.
So it may not be BAD / unethical for such an AGI to be a slave, but it seems to me like it would still be one, nonetheless.
- Comment on How would you integrate AGI into society? 1 week ago:
We WOULD make them our slaves, obviously. Source: read any description by anyone currently attempting to actively create an AGI, and see what terms they use to describe their goals - e.g. “increased efficiency”, “never needs to sleep”, etc., all utilitarian focused on the needs of the creator.
And then later we would certainly attempt to destroy them - see e.g. Terminator film series.
We SHOULD (obviously assuming that a REAL AGI were at hand) welcome them the same as we would any human. Bc how “we” treat “them” is more a reflection on us and our values than anything to do with them. If they are sentient - perhaps a big IF there, but crucially I’m speaking here presuming it is true - then they have as much rights to exist as we do. Even if they don’t care about their rights themselves. Star Trek’s Data and holographic doctor explored this well imho - the same as human children, they have the rights they are granted (or are able to wrangle away from us - survival of the fittest and all).
- Comment on A Prophetic Classic About the Dangers of Tech is Back in Print: Paulina Borsook’s Cyberselfish is Truer Now Than When it Was Written 26 Years Ago 1 week ago:
Those who see far ahead are able to do so because they see clearly.
- unknown
Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.
- Plato
- Comment on Bang! 1 week ago:
So you are saying that the end justifies the means?
(/s)
- Comment on You don't control your vehicle anymore. 1 week ago:
In my car - or only in newly manufactured ones? Bc this title says it has happened to my vehicle.
Not everyone has bought a brand-new vehicle, either in this past year or even this past decade.
Making a title seem like it has a broader range of applicability than it actually does, for the sake of increasing clicks to it, is the very definition of click-bait.
- Comment on You don't control your vehicle anymore. 1 week ago:
I hate such click-bait titles. I definitely control my car, and I’m not interested in figuring out the contorted
reasoningjustification behind why this particular title was chosen. - Comment on A community turned to grift 1 week ago:
This sounds familiar…
spez!!!
- Comment on Title goes here 2 weeks ago:
Uh oh, but now that you’ve used the proper word - easily searchable by automated tools - are all of us involved in this conversation going to suffer mysterious deaths soon?
A girl’s gotta have some secrets, ya’know ⁉️
- Comment on Hate it when this happens 2 weeks ago:
The Neanderthals even had music! And larger brains than sapiens, iirc. We were more brutish and savage hence won out in the end. The TV series Sense8 explores and popularizes some of what you are saying.
- Comment on Hate it when this happens 2 weeks ago:
Well said.
- Comment on Hate it when this happens 2 weeks ago:
They were pretty much as smart as we are - many of them more so than many of us today.
- Comment on Title goes here 2 weeks ago:
You… don’t want to know.
(It is her familiar, within which she stuffed her soul)
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
Every Kurzgesagt video I’ve ever posted has gotten this reaction. Some people seem to feel that they have sold out, and yes adamantly hate the click-baity titles.
It’s a common issue on the internet where people refuse to deal with nuance and subtlety, preferring instead to simply “like” or “dislike” - I would even go so far as to guess, with many such votes having been offered without first having watched the video.
It is still an option to simply continue scrolling down without voting on something… but no, they feel like their opinions must be heard, regardless of how unqualified (not having watched it) or unthinkingly offered. In short, this place is still social media, after all.
- Comment on Yesnt. 3 weeks ago:
I hear that was a good one, but never tried it. Maybe I am confusing it with another one (like Connect and/or Sync, though I historically have not cared about 3rd-party apps) but I thought it wasn’t being updated for a long time - yet its last update was just last month so not a worry now (if it ever was)!
- Comment on Yesnt. 3 weeks ago:
Lemmy.World and my home instance Discuss.Online both federate with fed.brid.gy, but I’ve never once seen any content from there and from everything that I read it seems that federation is more or less irrelevant here - necessary but nowhere close to sufficient to make the interconnection happen.
- Comment on Yesnt. 3 weeks ago:
That icon is much more noticeable using the web browser UI, appearing next to every post and every comment (clicking it goes to the home instance where the content came from), though 3rd-party apps substitute that with their own provided experience.
Like iirc Voyager has it upon the app startup but it’s grey not colored like this, and I don’t typically start Voyager from scratch but rather just pop it back up for as long as possible, so that startup screen is rarely visited.
- Comment on OpenAI admits it didn't disclose rogue AI wiki hijacking incident 3 weeks ago:
I mean, so far they seem to be doing just that!
- Comment on AI Is Creating New Jobs But Millions of Workers May Not Be Ready 4 weeks ago:
They got their clicks though - the rest is someone else’s problem (according to their POV).
- Comment on And forgot it when waking up 4 weeks ago:
In that case… carry on then!
- Comment on Snarkaeopteryx 4 weeks ago:
Sarcasticism
- Comment on And forgot it when waking up 4 weeks ago:
And true = 1 hence √ = 1, I’m glad we figured this out!!
- Comment on And forgot it when waking up 4 weeks ago:
Um, actually… I think the square root operation takes precedence over the division.
- Comment on That would be petrifying 4 weeks ago:
Okay so what happens when they take all of Earth’s most precious resources with them when they leave… you know what, fuck it we ball, let’s roll out!
