What do you like/dislike about lemmy?

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• ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I dislike that Lemmy is such a left-wing echo chamber. Reddit had a much wider variety of opinions being voiced openly; on Lemmy, there’s almost none. It doesn’t take long to figure out what’s acceptable to say here and what isn’t. It’s a kind of self-gaslighting because it can make you feel like the opinions of the average Lemmy user represent the wider population when that couldn’t be further from the truth.

  Also, there are almost no blue-collar workers here, and most discussions revolve around office jobs and big city life.

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  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not really, liberals here tend to overpower and speak over leftist voices. Any time a Leftist disagrees with Kamala or points out a legitimate concern swarms of smug liberals say “erm akshurally what about trump you Russian bot”.

    (Liberal =/= left-wing)

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  • Kyouki@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Personally don’t like the constant echoing of political positions or takes but that’s in my experience equal on both platforms.

    I cba. The thing I like more on Lemmy is slight more civilly discussions or what’s being shared.

    Just hate how its always have to be polarized to what side you lean on ot emphasis on.

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    • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Defaulting on the American aspect of things as well.

      As always ofc, but I feel like less so here. Though the Western aspects are still predominant for sure - UK & EU as well as USA.

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  • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The US has a left lean (“left” by US standards). What I mean by that is it’s not an even split. The majority of Americans lean left. The only reasons the right has any power in this country is due to the first past the post voting system, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the electoral college.

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    • pinkystew@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I meet Trump supporters everyday. I see signs on the lawn in every town. I hear them speak in media regularly.

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• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like the way Lemmy functions, with things like an open moderator log and the way that instances can be created to prevent too much control from one singular instance from pushing people completely off the platform if they have bad moderation, for example.

  I don’t like the users. For every one user that is nice and wants to have a legitimate conversation, there are like 300 that just want to fight/argue or spew politics into a non-political conversation. The number of users I have blocked on Lemmy is far longer than the amount of users I ever blocked on Reddit, and my Reddit account existed for about 10 years. This Lemmy account has only been around for about 1/10th of that.

  One of the biggest strengths of Lemmy is also one of its biggest curses. Due to its federated nature, anyone can create a new instance. The problem with this is that particularly nasty users can keep creating accounts on instances they keep creating in order to harass people they don’t like. So even if you block them, they just switch to a new account, etc. They can also do this for vote manipulation, not like that really matters on Lemmy but Lemmy users seem to have fallen victim to the same problem Redditors had: seeing a comment with 0 or -1 score and then completely disregarding whatever it said, not reading it and downvoting it automatically.

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  • sho@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “I like the way Lemmy functions, with things like an open moderator log and the way that instances can be created to prevent too much control from one singular instance from pushing people completely off the platform if they have bad moderation, for example.”

    Oh yeah that seems an excellent way to keep a power balance between users and moderation. Hadn’t used reddit all that much, but heard of the nightmarish moderation abuse.

    “I don’t like the users. For every one user that is nice and wants to have a legitimate conversation, there are like 300 that just want to fight/argue or spew politics into a non-political conversation.”

    Sadly is a big issue with many platforms where politics is used for excuse to mental flex, invalidate, clout motives, and flat out bully. So i try to avoid politics or deflect and avoid people who just looking to argue for the sake of argueing to assert dominance. Too many headaches online deal with.

    “The number of users I have blocked on Lemmy is far longer than the amount of users I ever blocked on Reddit, and my Reddit account existed for about 10 years.”

    I might do the same tbh, i can see there are quite a bit of users needing filtered out on lemmy. Can also see some get angry knowing that people would rather just block em’ and not engage with them because then they can’t fuel their clout driven ego 🙂

    “The problem with this is that particularly nasty users can keep creating accounts on instances they keep creating in order to harass people they don’t like. So even if you block them, they just switch to a new account, etc.”

    Perhaps this could be resolved by implementing a user follow list and making it so users can only be interacted with if the user approves the follower who is trying to follow em’

    “They can also do this for vote manipulation, not like that really matters on Lemmy but Lemmy users seem to have fallen victim to the same problem Redditors had: seeing a comment with 0 or -1 score and then completely disregarding whatever it said, not reading it and downvoting it automatically.”

    Imo i think lemmy could just do away with a voting system, it would reduce cognitive bias by not giving them a sense of popularity contest to determine if it’s worth reading a user’s post or comment. People should judge for themselves rather than having others do it for them.

    You seem a a reasonably decent person btw.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The problem with no voting system whatsoever is that content then surfaces by recency and/or replies, so people generate a lot of noise to make stuff they agree more visible.

      That said the current system is by no means perfect, and I agree with you that people should judge content by themselves.

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    • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I encourage aggressive blocking. Without it, the assholes drive the decent people away over time.

      I’d be fine without voting, too. I am glad they at least got rid of karma.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Here’s a hard that when I noticed it, improved my experience on the Fediverse enormously. Enough to convince me not to leave it outright as I nearly did. Pay attention to what instance someone is from. It’s no 100% guarantee… but it’s not useless either. This is like 1000% more relevant for someone on an instance other than Lemmy.world, but it still helps for you too.

    The aggressiveness also varies by community, so likewise, some of those are just straight up worth blocking (so that you don’t keep forgetting and end up replying in it yet again and again) and finding alternatives for.

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• Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like the relatively sane moderation compared to Reddit.

  I dislike the heavy far-left/communist presence here. I’m a lefty myself, but a lot of people here are extremists in my opinion, little better than the far right.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ah yes, gotta love our little tankies

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    • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Can’t complain!”

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m also a lefty and often find myself going against the extreme grain here. The narratives about everything being a scam designed to steal your balls, the generational hatred, the cynicism and fatalism…

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  • pinkystew@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please tell me which subs you go to find extremist leftists

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    • Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re all over the place, but I suppose I encounter them most in the news and politics forums.

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    • Aoife@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean iunno about subs but for instances hexbear is largely known as the tankie instance. For the other kind of extreme leftists, the anarchists seem much more spread out even than they were back on reddit

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• i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like

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  “All” here vs other social media is much better

  It’s more likely that arguments are civil. There are still quite a few venomous arguments but I’ve noticed that it it proportionally less.

  On Reddit or Facebook, if you didn’t like a group you left and made your own. If you didn’t like the admins, tough shit. Here, if you don’t like the admins, you can use a different instance.

  Likes and dislikes are separate, and are in some cases viewable who submit them. I feel like this keeps people a little more honest.

  I like the modlog and transparency. It’s so much easier that when someone complains about unfair mod action, to see if they are in the right or exaggerating.

  There is an “end” to Lemmy. There isn’t just infinite content to scroll through.

  Dislike

  Smaller user base means that niches that Reddit filled just aren’t here.

  There is an “end” to Lemmy. There isn’t just infinite content to scroll through.

  Neutral

  The types of common negative personalities here are different from that of Reddit. Reddit has more misogyny, classism, antinatalists, and obnoxious atheists. (As opposed to the chill atheists.) Lemmy has quite a few people that are pretty shitty to those that are disabled or cannot get out of some situations. If you cannot work towards the greater good without any rest, can’t escape a bad situation, or can’t just extend yourself further, you are trash. There are also more fringe beliefs here. I do like it because of the different perspectives, even if I very strongly disagree. (It makes me think!) Unfortunately we still have the dumbass arguments about generations but you can’t have it all.

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  • bamfic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Like: Long-ass posts. Mastodon has a ridiculous character limit; lemmy doesn’t seem to have any. Dislike: Long-ass posts. Jesus people, the rants and drawn-out arguments.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was going to quote you saying arguements are civil, and then mock argue with you in an absurd way. But then I thought it wasn’t clear that I was being absurd and joking, and you might think I was actually toxic argueing with you. So I turned up the absurd.

      Somehow this ended with me giving you a lapdance as I insulted you. It made ME laugh, but I think instead of coming across as funny, it was just confusing.

      …also erotic.

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• Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The 14 year olds with “big brain” takes.

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  • Potatisen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Like or dislike?

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t mind the kids themselves, I might have been a teenage embodiment of edge too, but it sucks how many adults get pulled into childish fighting about nothing, instead of having a teaching moment.

      It makes the platform seem immature and childish.

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• xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dislike: every post inevitably has someone complaining about capitalism, Trump, police, Musk, …

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• tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dislike: the daily post from someone asking where they can find “non-political” or “centrist” communities, which is a dog whistle that they’re tired of being yelled at for their shitty views

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  • Jackthelad@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or that they just want to get away from politics for five minutes.

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    • wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just want to browse cat pics for a while? Believe or not, centrism.

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  • sho@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “which is a dog whistle that they’re tired of being yelled at for their shitty views” 🤨 you’re trolling right? Like @Jackthelad@lemmy.world says “they just wanna get away from politics” … not everyone cares to have a political opinion and likely just wanna avoid the hostility or nuances that comes with politics discussion. I myself would rather see to much more pleasant things that isn’t just abunch chaos and steam. Wouldn’t you rather enjoy your time than to be a salty bitter lad?

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• Zonetrooper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like:

  • It has that small-community feel still. I don’t see (perhaps because I stay out of a lot of the more tech-ey communities?) the kind of farming, low-effort, generally mediocre content I saw on Reddit.
  • Lack of the sense of a hyper-corporatized, “You’re only allowed to do things that make us money” sense that’s enshittified much of the internet lately. I’m not even sure if Lemmy can be monetized.

  Dislike:

  • Not yet large enough either. I don’t want millions of users, but I still miss a lot of the more niche hobby/discussion communities I used to be able to participate in. Even communities for fairly large hobbies or interests can be dead on Lemmy.
  • The awful political takes. Everything from typical dumbness up to advocating violence (but it’s okay because it’s my point). And it’s everywhere.

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even communities for fairly large hobbies or interests can be dead on Lemmy.

    Have you looked at !newcommunities@lemmy.world ?

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    • Zonetrooper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have, thank you! Unfortunately, I don’t see the niches I’m looking for, and even when they do, they’re basically dead. I can only scream into the void so long…

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• dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I genuinely cannot express how much it annoys me that I cannot have a blocklist for keywords.

  Most of the things I read are from my subscribed communities, which i’m very happy about generally, however given the overall state of life today, half of the posts in completely unrelated communities end up being one of the following:

  • Twitter CEO
  • Hate speech in US politics
  • AI propaganda for some pump and dump quick money

  I really just don’t want to see any of those things

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Connect app for Lemmy actually has this feature, and it really is a gamechanger. I mean, it makes Lemmy kinda into a desolate wasteland of posts, but its better than seeing most of the garbage I don’t care about and don’t want to interact with.

    Granted, this also relies on users putting said keywords in the title of their post, so I still end up seeing stuff I don’t want to, but it is drastically decreased.

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  • ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On browser you can put this onto your custom filters

    lemmy.world##div.post-listing:has(span:has-text(“/musk/i”))

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Voyager has word filters IIRC

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    • dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A few front-end do, yeah. I’m talking about native support

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• Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The people. For both.

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• wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  All the trolls.

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• Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like: decentralization and a renaissance of the old- school dream of what the Internet should be.

  Dislike: media bias fact checker bot spamming every damn post. Power tripping mods.

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  • sho@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Might i ask which mods you feel are power tripping? You don’t have to answer if you don’t want, no pressure.

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d rather not. Not sure if you can view the mod log for other people’s accounts, but if so it’s easy to spot from mine.

      I’ll say that I have some sympathy because dealing with internet randos is painful soul-sucking work and it’s easy to default to the ban-hammer, but…

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m still unclear what the purpose of that bot is, and why everyone hates it. It always just says bias checking is unavailable right now.

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hate it because it shows up everywhere and adds nothing of value while displaying busy formatted text. If it lately shows even less meaningful content, that barely seems possible.

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Power tripping mods.

    !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you not able to block it? I’ve blocked the entire community so I don’t see it much. You should be able to just like any other user… I would think?

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can but it bothers me that it exists, shitting on everything.

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• frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dislike: Tankies.

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  • sho@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Been wondering… what is a tankie?

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Authoritarian communists, especially those not native to such a state.

      Currently it’s mainly the folks who believe China in particular can do no wrong. Historically it refers to supporters of the USSR in Britain

      Specifically, it was used to distinguish [CPGB] party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

      More recently it’s applied online especially to people who are knee-jerk anti-capitalist or anti-US, “if the US/‘west’/capitalism is wrong then anyone who opposes them must be right”

      More generally, a tankie is someone who tends to support “militant opposition to capitalism”, and a more modern online variation, which means “something like ‘a self-proclaimed communist who indulges in conspiracy theories and whose rhetoric is largely performative.’”

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Its just another meaningless pejorative term usually used at leftists.

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    • VinesNFluff@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Asshole (but left wing)

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• PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like:

  • Decentralized system that limits abuse

  • Great customizaion

  Dislike:

  • Lack of even remotely niche content (aside from Linux and infosec content)

  • Generally very pessimistic userbase

  • Lacks polish and features in many areas

  • Currently trends towards extremist echo chambers - the fact that .ml (an instance known for banning criticism of violent, racist, authoritarian governments) is one of the biggest instances, is a good example of this.

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    tends to be extremely hostile to any sort of monitization

    This is a good thing, seeing as how monetization has ruined other things, the web newspapers in particular.

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    • PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It absolutely can, but doesn’t always. For example, Gamer’s Nexus is well respected for their thorough and unbiased research and journalism. It would be extremely difficult for them to do so without ads and merch sales, as any products reviewed must be purchased, testing equipment needs to bought, and experts need to be hired to use said equipment. Until capitalism ceases to exist, most people who make stuff will need to find a way to fund their work, from paint brushes to high-end testing equipment.

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lack of even remotely niche content (aside from Linux and infosec content)

    !newcommunities@lemmy.world

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    • PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Unfortunately, while it only takes one user to make these communities, there is rarely enough to maintain activity and esspecially not discussion on them. Even fairly large niches, such as Dota, rarely get more than a post or two a month, and no meaningful discussion despite it being a game that emphasizes theorycrafting so heavily.

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• Sundial@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The assholes who pretend to argue in good faith but just spout stupid bullshit.

  Oh, and the idiots who block everyone they don’t like.

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But what do you dislike?

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    • Sundial@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol, you got me for a minute.

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  • muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Simmillar to me i hate the assholes who accuse you of arguing in bad faith while symultaniously calling you a moronic asshole fascist.

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reddit 2.0 lol

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• Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It takes some time to block out stuff to make Lemmy usable. So much anime, bots and dumb American politics.

  It’s nice there are a bunch of apps for Lemmy, but using it without an app is not very welcoming. It needs a lot of improvement (e.g. manually compose urls to subscribe to communities on other servers).

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  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Honestly I’ve been raw doging Lemmy. I chose an instance that doesn’t block anything and I haven’t blocked a single thing. I just scroll past the politics and usually sort by new comments. I don’t see many bots at all

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• Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Likes: the small community, traditional forum vibe. No ads, no oppressive corporate hand to keep things advertiser-friendly. Interests and views tend to align, but I can have a healthy disagreement on many issues with most users here.

  Dislikes: heavy use of downvoting simply unpopular opinions (a mild annoyance). Difficult to pick between posting in a rarely active niche community and a very active but general community (sometimes I just crosspost). The threat of centralization, with Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml having by far the largest communities (I would like to see more active communities spread across sites, though I make an effort sometimes to comment on different servers). Some big features I’d like to see that still seem far from implementation, such as multi-communities.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Btw, both Mbin and PieFed have “categories” of multiple communities, so that you don’t have to sign up to or explore each community entirely on its own.

    Also, you may find it interesting: lemmynsfw, lemm.ee, and sh.itjust.works each have significantly more active monthly users than lemmy.ml. Though lemmy.world does have something like 80% of them on just that one. lemmyverse.net/?order=active_month

    Until 0.19.6 comes out of beta and Lemmy.world upgrades to it, it’s actually hard for any other instance besides it to remain up to date with content.

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    • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Until 0.19.6 comes out of beta and Lemmy.world upgrades to it, it’s actually hard for any other instance besides it to remain up to date with content.

      Hum, again? Hadn’t we agree that all top 20 instances are up-to-date with LW with the exception of aussie.zone and programming.dev?

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The userbase is overall more mature and can actually discuss complex topics. Different instances have completely different feels, vibes, cultures and userbases, and that’s amazing. Some admin teams are spez wannabees but the federated structure limits the damage that they can cause.

  Relative lack of niche communities. Witch hunting is becoming a worse problem here than in Reddit.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    more mature and can actually discuss complex topics

    I mean… well okay, more than Reddit yeah, for sure, in the sense that here at least it is possible at all.

    Witch hunting is becoming a worse problem here than in Reddit.

    How so? Genuinely I’m wondering lately if I’m causing issues. Generally that phrase presumes that the “witches” do not exist (I … thought?), but e.g. tankies (literally: those who deny that the Tiananmen Square massacre ever took place, like with actual fatalities rather than being staged or some such) actually do exist. Anyway, I wonder if it’s a natural reaction to the contentious atmosphere that has developed. Like all it takes is one person to walk into Chapotraphouse unawares, and bam, now you have radicalized someone against the bullies on the Fediverse.

    Oh, or you might mean the overzealous modding of certain instances? Though I think that predates the Rexodus, so it’s not “becoming a problem” so much as it was here long before most of us that are now here came over. e.g. here’s a post from 3 years ago with a very familiar tone: lemmy.ml/post/206994. But I would argue that it is as true now as it was then: people don’t enjoy being on the receiving end of intolerance, hence tend to be intolerant right back, and yet that is as it should be.

    Anyway, the Fediverse has a lot more technical work to get done before it can be more palatable to most people, without HEAVY blocking - as that 3-year-old post shows, the issue isn’t going away anytime soon, hence the friction between mutually opposing ideological constructs (e.g. “people in the USA should just die”, vs… not that) is only going to spark more conflicts. We’d best settle in and get used to it.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I know, the maturity standard isn’t too high, but I still think that Lemmy is going rather well given where the userbase is from.

      By “witch hunting” I mean “to claim that someone, a group, or a piece of content belongs to a socially undesirable group, without rational grounds to do so.”

      Here’s a made up example. Let’s say that Bob uses a picture of Richard Stallman as his avatar. Alice sees it, and…

      • [Alice] Bob! Why do you use that sick fuck as your avatar? You must be a paedophile!
      • [Bob] Nah. I use this avatar because I agree with Stallman’s views on software freedom, and nothing else. I don’t agree with his opinions on sex and sexuality, specially not about children.
      • [Alice] That’s bullshit, I bet that you abuse little children! MOOOODS!
      • [Bob] No, Alice, I don’t. Stop lying.
      • [Charlie] Alice, please, stop making shit up. Pleeeease.
      • [Alice] CHARLIE YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING A PEDO???

      Alice here is witch hunting. Alice has no grounds to claim that Bob is a paedophile, but she’s still doing it.

      The “witches” often do exist, mind you - they’re racists, bigots, sexual offenders, paedophiles, incels, transphobes, fascists, so goes on. They are socially undesirable, and need to be kicked out. Even then, witch hunting should not be tolerated in online communities: what they do is intrinsically unjust, it makes their target feel like shit, it makes the whole community walk on eggs (because anything that they say or do might get distorted into “witch behaviour”), and it numbs people against the issue with the actual witches (just like the boy who cried wolves unwillingly protected the wolves, witch hunters unwillingly protect the actual “witches”).

      I saw this plenty, plenty times in Reddit. But here in Lemmy it’s surprisingly more common, given the smaller userbase.

      But I would argue that it is as true now as it was then: people don’t enjoy being on the receiving end of intolerance, hence tend to be intolerant right back, and yet that is as it should be.

      Fighting back is good. Punching random people isn’t. Witch hunters do the later, not the former.

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• Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wish I could filter communities by language.

  Also one thing I like is the open war we have with memes with censured bad words for fucking fuck’s sake

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  • donuts@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think the problem is that people think the memes are created by the person uploading, as if they chose to censor it.

    Someone is just sharing a funny they saw on Instagram, there’s not much more to it.

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    • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yup I know, some people uncensor the memes before posting and that always makes me laugh

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Have you tried setting up the languages in the settings? If communities don’t configure languages properly, you can also point it out to them

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• darkan15@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dislike: there is still no way to group communities into sub feeds, apart from subs, local, all. (and the work around some do of having multiple accounts seems silly to me)

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• LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like: It’s not Reddit.

  Dislike: The userbase is too small and there are way too many circlejerks in some communities and you get bashed to hell if you dare to disagree with them.

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• bpt11@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have loved my time with Lemmy so far. I feel like people are much kinder here compared to Reddit, it feels like a genuine community of people that are willing and able to help one another out and chat and talk, without the people of Reddit that just bully and make fun of for no good reason other than just because. I think that’s the biggest reason I prefer lemmy over Reddit, along with the benefits of being decentralized and federated.

  But I miss the near infinitely larger user base on Reddit and the things that come with that. On Reddit I can find a community for pretty much anything I can imagine. I’ve always loved using Reddit as a tool to help me learn, because regardless of what it is I’m learning I can find somewhere that I can ask any question I could think of, and 9/10 times someone out there out of the millions of Reddit users can give me a decent competent answer. That’s my favorite part about Reddit. That is, if they don’t just call me stupid and tell me I’m an idiot or something like that.

  But I feel hopeful that Lemmy can get to a similar point some day.

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• fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Decentrilization is both a blessing and a curse.

  If there’s an issue you can make your own community with blackjack, and hookers.

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• spittingimage@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some people here take themselves way too seriously. Not every conversation needs to be an argument.

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• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like that Lemmy doesn’t have stupid levels of auto-moderation happening. And I like that threads don’t constantly get locked merely because people are engaging with them.

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• GrymEdm@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like that it’s moderated fairly lightly but reasonably. Often I can have an actual discussion with someone who doesn’t agree with me without either of us getting banned by a mod who likes one side or the other. From what I see generally a user needs to be very obviously abusive/racist/violent before a mod steps in, even if the content is controversial.

  I dislike that I haven’t been able to have those discussions in a while because I have heavily restricted my use for my mental health until after the election. A lot of people (not all by any means) believe it’s ok to bully and abuse other users so long as they’re sure the cause is righteous. The most obvious example are the daily posts/comments, with a lot of upvotes/support, that label anyone who disagrees with or criticizes Kamala (used to be Biden)/Democrats a bot, idiot, worse than useless, foreign agent and so on. Just to be clear I’m not talking about downvoting which is a fairly benign way of expressing disagreement - I’m talking about outright insults. The attitude of “vote with/support me or else” has no place in a democracy founded on free voting without persecution, even if the bully is sure they’re right. If I didn’t mention it, perhaps even if I do, I’m willing to bet someone will say a version of “but it is actually ok this time” and give reasons why. It’s happened before.

  Guess what? Very few “policy bullies” think they are evil - they’re positive they’re justified. Christians demand abortion bans, Muslim deportation, religion in schools/government and so on because they truly believe they are saving eternal souls. I was raised in that environment. That a sizable amount of Lemmy users believe it’s correct/admirable to insult others into “proper” behavior makes them very similar in character to those religious extremists IMO. Apparently when the issue is really important abuse is ok.

  I’ll just end by saying Gaza is incredibly important to me - I am legitimately very upset frequently by the stories and media. However, I was convinced to support Biden and then Kamala by Bernie Sanders. Bernie laid out his argument with logic and facts and did not once insult my position. I also doubt the posts/comment insults I see all over are winning over undecideds. “I wasn’t sure if I should vote Democrat until I was called a harmful idiot and had my concerns dismissed as being in bad faith”.

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• Mwa@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What I like: flexibility for clients,nice people,etc.
  What I dislike: not every community is here and some of the communism here

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• nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  needs more porn

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• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The mods: self-important, dense, and often pushing their own agendas.

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• CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The thing I dislike the most is that my bot got banned. I made a bot to post carefully categorized articles into their proper communities, but it was banned without warning or explanation. All the communities I was modding dried up shortly thereafter because I didn’t manually post in them instead.

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