Gradually_Adjusting
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- Comment on Bet you don't remember this 13 minutes ago:
Kids these days get plenty of bluey. Mine has a lot of variety. Almost 100 different shows in rotation for our weekly bloc of toons.
- Comment on Bet you don't remember this 5 hours ago:
Of course I remember it, I still play that show for my kid.
- Comment on AGI is not coming! - Yanick Kilcher 5 hours ago:
I’ve watched a couple of these. You might find FreeTube useful for getting YT content without the ugly ads and algo stuff.
There are shortcomings that keep an LLM from approaching AGI in that way. They aren’t interacting (experiencing) with the world in a multisensory or realtime way, they are still responding to textual prompts within their frame of reference in a more discrete, turn-taking manner. They still require domain-specific instructions, too.
An AGI that is directly integrated with its sensorimotor apparatus in the same way we are would, for all intents and purposes, have a subjective sense of self that stems from the fact that it can move, learn, predict, and update in real time from its own fixed perspective.
Jeff Hawkins’ work still has me convinced that the fixed perspective to which we are all bound is the wellspring of subjectivity, and that any intermediary apparatus (such as an AI subsystem for recognizing pictures that feeds words about those pictures to an LLM that talks to another LLM etc, in order to generate a semblance of complex behaviour) renders the whole as a sort of Chinese room experiment, and the LLM remains a p-zombie. It may be outwardly facile at times, even enough to pass Turing tests and many other such standards of judging AI, but it would never be a true AGI because it would never have a general facility of intelligence.
I do hope you don’t find me churlish, I hasten to admit that these chimerae are interesting and likely to have important considerations as the technology ramifies throughout society and the economy, but I don’t find them to be AGI. It is a fundamental limitation of the LLM technology.
- Comment on Grok Claims It Was Briefly Suspended From X After Accusing Israel of Genocide 8 hours ago:
A lot of us didn’t have a cool philosophy teacher who explained p-zombies and it shows
- Comment on AGI is not coming! - Yanick Kilcher 21 hours ago:
For a snappy reply all I can say is that I did qualify that a “conventional” LLM likely cannot become intelligent. I’d like to see examples of LLMs paired with sensorimotor systems, if you know of any. Although I have been often inclined to describe human intelligence as merely a bag of tricks that, taken together, give the impression of a coherent whole, we have a rather well developed bag of tricks that can’t easily be teased apart. Merely interfacing a Boston Dynamics robo-dog with the OpenAI API may have some amusing applications, but nothing could compel me to admit it as an AGI.
- Comment on AGI is not coming! - Yanick Kilcher 23 hours ago:
The argument is best made by Jeff Hawkins in his Thousand Brains book. I’ll try to be convincing and brief at the same time, but you will have to be satisfied with shooting the messenger if I fail in either respect. The basic thrust of Hawkins’ argument is that you can only build a true AGI once you have a theoretical framework that explains the activity of the brain with reference to its higher cognitive functions, and that such a framework necessarily must stem from doing the hard work of sorting out how the neocortex actually goes about its business.
We know that the neocortex is the source of our higher cognitive functions, and that it is the main area of interest to the development of AGI. A major part of Hawkins’ theory states that because the neocortex is arranged into many small columns (cortical columns), it is chiefly the number of them that differs between creatures of different intelligence level, and it forms essentially a basic repeating unit across the whole of the neocortex to model and make predictions about the world based on sensory data. He holds that these columns vote amongst each other in realtime about what is being perceived, constantly piping up and shushing each other and changing their models based on updated data almost like a rowdy room full of parliamentarians trying to come to a consensus view, and that it is this ongoing internal hierarchy of models and perceptions that makes up our intelligence, as it were.
The reason I ventured to argue that sensorimotor integration is necessary for an AI to be an AGI is because I got that idea from him as well; in order to gather meaningful sensory data, you have to be able to move about your environment to make sense of your inputs. Merely receiving one piece of sensory data fails to make any particular impression, and you can test this for yourself by having a friend place an unknown object against your skin without moving it, and having you try to guess based on that one data point. Then, have them move the object and see how quickly you gather enough information to make a solid prediction - and if you were wrong, your brain will hastily rewire its models to update based on that finding. An AGI would similarly fail to make any useful contributions unless it has the ability to move about its environment (asterisk - that includes a virtual environment) in order to continually learn and make predictions. The sort of thing we cannot possibly expect from any conventional LLM, at least as far as I’ve heard so far.
I’d better stop there and see if you care to tolerate more of this sort of blather. I hope I’ve given you something to sink your teeth into, at any rate.
- Comment on AGI is not coming! - Yanick Kilcher 1 day ago:
AGI can’t come from these LLMs because they are non-sensing, stationary, and fundamentally not thinking at all.
AGI might be coming down the pipe, but not from these LLM vendors. I hope a player like Numenta, or any other nonprofit, open-source initiative manages to create AGI so that it can be a positive force in the world, rather than a corporate upward wealth transfer like most tech.
- Comment on Google says it's working on a fix for Gemini's self-loathing 'I am a failure' comments 4 days ago:
Oh no, no. No! They’re finally creating an accurate LLM! Fuck
- Comment on How does ads generate money for the ones who display it? 4 days ago:
They have a lot of bullshit metrics they use to try to operationalise how effective and valuable the ad was, thereby algorithmically pricing things. Certain things are more expensive to advertise, but it’s all essentially self justifying bullshit imo.
- Comment on Upset about progress 5 days ago:
It’s a crucial component of a society whose unprecedented poison and inequality is causing a mass extinction, so how dare you criticise it
- Comment on Title of your s*x tape 6 days ago:
What’s your point, that it’s fine and dandy? I’ve done more than my share of fun with guns, but even I think it’s just plain weird for kids to see a guy with a gun every single day of their lives.
- Comment on Why is kindness often viewed as a sign of naïveté? 6 days ago:
Rudeness is merely an expression of fear. People fear they won’t get what they want. The most dreadful and unattractive person only needs to be loved, and they will open up like a flower.
- Comment on Title of your s*x tape 1 week ago:
Even as a kid getting armed cops in schools after 9/11, I have always really hated seeing guns in public. Especially when it’s a mall cop, you know? That sucks.
- Comment on Anon is dehydrated 1 week ago:
We’re not even in the douche bag dystopia’s final form
- Comment on Planet of the apes: Beginning 1 week ago:
That ancient sling bullet that says “catch!” energy
- Comment on Planet of the apes: Beginning 1 week ago:
I wonder if they’re hiring, that sounds way more relaxing than my bullshit email job
- Comment on Title of your s*x tape 1 week ago:
This book shaped me.
- Comment on Anon tries running live USB Linux on his dad's computer 1 week ago:
- Comment on Title of your s*x tape 1 week ago:
“Filipinos are a warm, gentle, caring, giving people. Which is a good thing since so many of them carry concealed weapons.” - Neal Stephenson
- Comment on What would you do if your gym trainer is 5 minutes late? 1 week ago:
Ah, yeah that’s worth a remark. Maybe next time start without them in the car park as a joke. Hopefully they get the hint.
- Comment on What would you do if your gym trainer is 5 minutes late? 1 week ago:
Have you failed to factor in human fallibility to your cost-benefit analysis for this gym membership?
- Comment on newborn 1 week ago:
"not to my parents"ese
- Comment on Be nice 1 week ago:
Still worth it
- Comment on Palantir gets $10 billion contract from U.S. Army 1 week ago:
Knew a dude who worked there during their startup days. They told me Peter Thiel would wear double bluetooth earbuds way back when it was still considered immensely douchey to have even one.
What I’m trying to say is Thiel has always been an unbelievably worthless person. Fuck him and fuck Palantir.
- Comment on Be nice 1 week ago:
Don’t make me tap the sign
- Comment on Be nice 1 week ago:
You did say jokes were one of the options, and I didn’t get nearly funny enough to cope with my trauma by skipping a chance to get silly.
- Comment on Be nice 1 week ago:
I’d enjoy the topic at a less busy time of life. I’m being kept tired, distracted, and poor lately as a systematic form of oppressive totalitarian rule - and that’s just from my kid!
- Comment on Be nice 1 week ago:
Henceforth, $1 shall cost $1. Inflation solved.
- Comment on Back in my day this MF was .29 cents and was THICK with INGREDIENTS 1 week ago:
Important to note that restaurants don’t pay grocery store prices. I worked at a shop a couple decades ago that decided they had to grab ingredients at a grocery store due to Sysco stiffing them on some stock, and long story short no money was made that day.
- Comment on Saw this on r*ddit, had to share with my people 1 week ago:
His best is barely watchable, it’s incredible that he had a career at all
