Groceries are expensive and they're too busy talking about culture war

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• eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Asking one of the most insecure men on tv about his dick

  BOSS MOVE

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  • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in Michigan, has raised eyebrows after asking Fox News’ Jesse Watters if he is circumcised during a combative prime-time interview.

    Man fuck right off, that wasn’t at all a weird question to ask in response to a fucking weird obsession Jesse has with children’s “dingilings”

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Jesse Watters is the one who brought it up, after all.

      El-Sayed (a medical doctor, by the way) only responded in kind, and Watters - having brought it up as some kind of battle mark, some line that should never be crossed - immediately reversed course at brakeneck speed and attempted to dismiss it as if it were nothing, framing El-Sayed as an absurdist for even mentioning the subject that Watters himself raised in feigned outrage, despite El-Sayed’s repeated warnings that Watters would regret addressing the subject

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    • ptsdstillinmymind@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you ever believed that the manipulation stream media was on the right side of history. Then this whole interview plus the one Welker did with Angie Nixon should tell you that they never were.

      These companies act like assholes to Progressives and DSA while throwing cotton candy at Pedophiles and Rapists.

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      …and this article agrees with you. Wh…why are you telling them to fuck off…?

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  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Watters is so grating in his speech, can’t watch it, but it’s impressive to see someone put up with him for a half hour

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Things went off the rails when Watters asked the progressive if he supports gender-affirming surgery for those under 18 years old.

      “Sex change for minors. Do you support that?” Watters asked El-Sayed, to which the former public health official said, “I just think the government shouldn’t tell you what kind of healthcare you should have.”

      “So you think it’s okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?” Watters asked.

      El-Sayed retorted: “Do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?”

      The shocked Fox News host said, “Yeah, but I mean that’s a personal question, doctor.”

      Watters then said circumcision is “different than castration,” but El-Sayed argued, “I’m just saying that yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid’s ding-a-ling.”

      Watters called El-Sayed’s comment “wacky,” adding, “Abdul, Michigan’s not going for that. That is sick stuff.”

      Holy shit what an inane hypocrite. I swear conservatives are going to give me an aneurysm

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      he supposed to be the replacement tucker carlson.

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  • AviAdi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I love it 😂

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  • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Transcript from the article:

    “Sex change for minors. Do you support that?” Watters asked El-Sayed, to which the former public health official said, “I just think the government shouldn’t tell you what kind of healthcare you should have.”

    “So you think it’s okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?” Watters asked.

    Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan, has raised eyebrows after asking Fox News’ Jesse Watters if he is circumcised during a combative prime-time interview

    Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan, has raised eyebrows after asking Fox News’ Jesse Watters if he is circumcised during a combative prime-time interview (Jesse Watters Primetime)

    El-Sayed retorted: “Do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?”

    The shocked Fox News host said, “Yeah, but I mean that’s a personal question, doctor.”

    Watters then said circumcision is “different than castration,” but El-Sayed argued, “I’m just saying that yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid’s ding-a-ling.”

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think something is lost in converting it to text. Something of the essence of the moment really… You have to see it and hear it.

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So you think it’s okay for a parent to slash his kid’s ding-a-ling off?

      How insane that these are the questions. Ask him about UFOs and Bigfoot next.

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  • im_fine_sandy@nord.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This was such a bizarre interaction.

    El Sayed seems brilliant at responding to these gotcha questions.

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m sure the guy like that has had a lifetime of practice

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  • Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    bro wake up a another ‘once in a generation’ headline just dropped

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  • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You got a link?

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/abdul-el-sayed-jesse-watters-circumcised-b3038567.html

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  • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And of course Waters couldn’t/wouldn’t understand.

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What a Ding-a-ling!

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    thought the bar was low.

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As low as your ding-a-ling!

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  • djdarren@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not being an American, I tend to have very little experience of Fox News, and that’s how I like it.

    But how do they keep replacing one shithouse with another?

    Bill O’Reilly gave way to Glen Beck gave way to Fucker Carlson gave to whoever this barely-sentient pile of dog shit is. Is there a training school for ridiculous, puffed up white boys who make that stupid “I’m just asking questions” face that I’d never tire of hitting with a bat?

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  • Fmstrat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is there a link with the correct video?

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    • eurodyne@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Having already watched it a few times, I assure you, this is the correct video

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  • jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    gonna be more fun when they bring up the piker radicalisation pipeline’s new statement supporting punishing jews for being ok with the existence of israel

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    • mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fuck off zionazi

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    hes also irl DENNIS, who slashed a fox womans news employee tires to try to get in her pants.

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• uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah. That’s FOX News. They tell their viewers what to think, and the viewers obey.

  They have a very specific propaganda program. It draws people in with fear, outrage and bigotry…

  Then it invites them to divest of all other information sources (except maybe approved ones like OANN or WSJ) the way that an abusive spouse gets their partner to disconnect from all other social relationships.

  And then it pumps them with MAGA ideology. The culture war stuff.

  It’s literal mind control, but it’s like a reverse hack (trying a common password on multiple accounts), in that it hits a lot of people and sucks in those who bite. Usually white uneducated men.

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  • Nonprophet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was on a 2.5 hour flight recently, and a guy a couple of rows up was watching Fox News. It just jumped from: Trans, Immigrants, Socialism, over and over and over the entire flight. It made me realize how fitting the term ‘News Story’ really is!

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It identifies as news.

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    • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s repetition if just 24 hour news channels. CNN is similar they just harp on a different set of issues.

      I’m mildly curious how much longer they can keep it up as they slowly become less and less relevant. Few under 40 subscribe to cable television and instead consume social media influencers who are both myriad and cheaper to influence.

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  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They have a very specific propaganda program. It draws people in with fear, outrage and bigotry…

    It’s the same one that’s been around from the 1920’s, they’ve all been cribbing from the same guy for over a hundred years.

    The German jurist and political philosopher Carl Schmitt wrote about the inherent vulnerability of democracy in his book The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy in 1923. He basically wrote the playbook that every fascist still utilizes today.

    Writing “Every actual democracy rests on the principle that not only are equals equal, but unequals will not be treated equally.” Basically, you can tear apart any democracy by framing diversity and minority opinions as existential threats to the political community, by exploiting this you can lay the groundwork for majoritarian tyranny and state-sponsored exclusion.

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• switcheroo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Love this guy. El-Sayed and Mamdani are really kicking ass! They are exactly what I want for my state (and the whole gd country too, but you know as well as I do that red states are hopeless and too brainwashed to ever do better).

  Dr. El-Sayed was born in the US. Just saying. He is very qualified to run for president— though the bar is so low right now it’s a tripping hazard in hell…

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  • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re focusing on the message.

    Kamala was doing the right thing by laughing in their faces.

    But we have to take it to the next step. Piss them off. Tell them to stop wasting everyone’s time about which bathroom to use when people are dying because they’re afraid of going to the hospital.

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    • fisch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Spot on. Journalism today is a joke. They’re owned by billionaires and mostly care about clicks and ad revenue, so they milk every stupid trend rather than go for the topics that really matter.

      Politicians get too easily distracted. You don’t have to answer every bullshit question or take a position on every stupid trend topic. If a journalist doesn’t do his job properly, tell them off, or even address the viewers and their actual real-life struggles directly.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and then the party/msms put a muzzle on thier language, they knew it was hurting the Rs.

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  • sunbytes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh damn. That’s why they’re coming at him harder than Mamdani.

    He’s a threat to establishment careers.

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  • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No state is red or blue forever.

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• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thats the correct response.

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• LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I watched the entire thing.

  I can’t stress enough how Sayed stayed calm and cool during the whole thing, while the clown on the left there was constantly trying to talk over him (as is the game plan for all those swamp creatures).

  I couldn’t sit there and be as patient and calm as Sayed, that’s for damn sure. It’s about time we started taking a no nonsense stand, and I am here for it. :-)

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  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean it’s their whole effective schtick after all because Americans are not intelligent. Loud and repeated is the truth to so many Americans when they have little to no critical thinking skills. Whoever is the loudest, the fastest, the most obnoxious is the victor of the debate when it comes to the vast majority of the American electorate.

    it’s sad but it works and it make tons of money promoting this type of discourse instead of actual boring, proper debate and discussion.

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  • Patariki@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve only watched a part but i laughed at the the part of: “Have you followed then news recently, it’s pretty big.” It’s only big because they misuse their platform to make it big. When you look at the numbers of actual people affected, well let’s just say the amount of measles death in certain states is higher.

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• Dry_Monk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Standard acceptable answer:

  “think about this last week. How many times did you personally feel like things were too expensive? How many times did a cis woman you personally know lose to a trans woman in sports?”

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How many times did you personally feel like things were too expensive?

    Even this is a weak framing.

    “How many times did you personally feel like your are being overcharged for groceries, utilities, or rents?” puts the blame where is belongs.

    Stuff isn’t just “more expensive” by some mystifying method. People who own shit are raising prices on you. And these same people are paying you less for your work.

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As though he has to think about prices…

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He doesn’t, but there is value in putting it in the minds of his viewers

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• Flower@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hey Fox News, it’s bread and circus. If you’re only doing circus and people get hungry you’re still going to be in trouble. Groceries matter.

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  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Might be difficult when the government is all clowns and no bakers.

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    • Flower@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oops, deported all food sector workers.

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “I can’t afford to live.”

  “Does that lady have a PENIS?!”

  “Um…”

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “The Lady Muslim immigrant with the penis is desecrating the American Flag and that’s why you can’t afford groceries”

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  • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Um… I don’t know but I should find out! They could be trying to invade girls bathrooms! I’m going to spend all my money to support this obvious life threatening situation!”

    “Lettuce now gives you diarrhea!”

    What else is on? “Police called on gay men holding hands!”

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• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s by intention. I noticed that right wingers don’t really talk about the economic equality but instead focus on culture wars.

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  • sunbytes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s why they came up with the culture wars in the first place.

    It’s cheaper than fixing a real problem, and much easier to sell.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can literally have TWO right-wing parties entirely in agreement with right-wing policies on those things which have the most impact in the lives of pretty much everybody out there whilst playacting politics with culture wars so that one of the claims to be “leftwing”.

      If you’re American (and nowadays, also from most countries in Europe), this description probably sounds very familiar …

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  • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Culture war is free, while economic reforms that would benefit people are not

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• DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unfortunately there are plenty of idiots with propaganda brain willing to take the traitors at Fox seriously.

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Give them someone else to blame and hate, and they’ll salute.

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• chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s absolutely the right move to not even play that game. Don’t let them use that weapon to distract from the issues.

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• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “How am i supposed to take this seriously” has become my default mood whenever i have to interact with society of late.

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• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Cant talk about things that actually matter, because trump and republicans are directly responsible for that.

  So we have to inflame idiots by talking about stupid bullshit that no one cared about until they poured gasoline on it to make it a wedge issue in desperate attempt to salvage votes from the mess they’ve personally created.

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry to reply to my own post…

    but everything from the right (even back before the party flip, because it doesnt matter what the label was, they were still the same assholes) is nothing but culture war shit.

    Segregation was a culture war. A culture war that they ultimately loss, and while its terrifying ramifications are far from over even today, they did admit defeat on it… Which is why leaders held secret meetings, of which there are recordings of, to figure out what the next hateful wedge issue would be… and they came upon abortion… and even they struggled with deciding on abortion, because literally no one gave a flat fuck about abortion outside the catholics, and they were mocked for caring about abortion.

    But they decided Abortion was their best bet for the continuing culture war bullshit, so they went whole hog on it, and within a year ministers and priests and politicians and the whole propaganda machine churned into action and suddenly gave a fuck about abortion and declared it the great evil of our time

    and that went on for 50+ years, until they started losing the battle on Abortion… and just like they did when they lost the battle on segregation, they had to come up with a new cultural wedge issue, because they cant argue on actual politics and records because their politics are as awful as their goddamn records… And what did they land on? Trans people. Who are the new desegregation, the new abortion. And just like every time previous, they want to inflame hate to trick gullible idiots into voting for them out of fear.

    and trans people existing is such a weak fucking wedge issue, that they are trying to go back to segregations racist arguments, with trying to be oOoOoOo big spooky about black people existing, or spreading blatant lies about them eating all the dogs and birds, or that the brown people are here to rape our women and take our jobs, and all the other tired tropey bullshit.

    Fear fear fear FEAR FEAR. Thats all it boils down to. Trying to convince sheltered idiots to fear what they havent experienced. to fear who they don’t know. to fear everything that is unknown.

    Beacuse as long as people are drowning in adrenaline fueled fear, they’ll never stop to look around them and realize its all fucking bullshit and admit they’ve been duped and lied too.

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• SwissArmyKazoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  GOP rather discuss ethnic ostracizing and its non-existent values than bring up the affordability crisis and inhumane immigration enforcement tactics being plagued on to their own nation and responsibilities.

  MAGA is zealously a dictatorship movement

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  • InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve seen ads from / in favor of a number of GOP candidates from around the country lately. More and more of them are running with affordability crisis talking points. Hypocrisy, sure, but what’s new?

    For an uninformed voting populace, being the cause of and the solution to major problems is a viable plan.

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Politics are so broken you can just say whatever and it doesn’t matter anymore in the US.

      You are completely right about being the problem and a pretend solution. The conservatives love to do this with the deficit. Run it up and ignore it completely and then start screaming about it when the other party takes over.

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    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because they know they’re going to lose and want to say “I could have made things affordable but you guys elected a democrat” when the issue isn’t immediately solved - this will probably happen at every level of government

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  MAGA thinks they smell blood in the water on the trans issue, so that’s their chosen wedge issue for the foreseeable future. I’m the past it was abortion, flag burning, kneeling, gay adoption, gay marriage, gay gayness, etc.

  The proper answer to any trans nonsense is: “I am not a doctor, and I won’t presume to interfere with the medical decisions between any patient and their doctor, on any subject. I have absolutely no opinions on this subject, and do not consider it an appropriate subject for a political discussion. It is an appalling and indefensible political strategy to use any medical issue as a political talking point, so I’m not interested in your opinion either.”

  That works for ANY medical issue, including abortion.

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    El-Saied is a doctor though :)

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• Lor@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  that is their M.O. - to distract.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The unfortunate thing is that the high grocery prices are a direct result of a culture war. Namely, the one between the ultra rich and the rest of us.

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We need to zealously stomp on culture war distractions whenever we see them. Remind people no war but the class war.

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• solidheron@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Watters in that interview basically acting like a child. If the conversation didn’t go his way he would change it while sayed was speaking.

  You can see at multiple points sayed “you going to let me talk”

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• itsBlorpinTime@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have no idea why these people even go on these shows. Fox News high key hates them, and will do anything to fuck them over.

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• Nonprophet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is the way

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• Thor_Whale@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s fox news, only watched by angry country club boomer golfers

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• HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I agree with this. They are always trying to drag in all this social minutia when we have a real problem with wealth disparity, our federal goverment being completely hollowed out, and of course healthcare. we have a lot of real problems to fix.

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• spacegoat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Me at work every single day

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• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s exactly the point of culture wars to distract people away from the complete total crash in the quality of life for the many due to the bipartisan total agreement in shoving as much money into the hands of the wealthy no mater what the consequences for the rest.

  You see it all around the World - the more the “center” “mainstream” “pragmatic” parties agree on managing their country for the good of a few and screw the rest, the more they loudly and exaggeratedly (with the subtlety of 5 year-olds doing putting on a play) “fight” around things like trans-sexuality which are morally solved by the simple logic of “it’s not of my business what others do with their bodies”.

  You saw this shit first in the US because that country is the one more advanced in the whole thing of the Money Elites owning the Political Elites and thus them Pillaging the Wealth Of the Many (after all, the US has being doing the whole Pillaging Of The Wealth Of The Powerless for literally decades, just mainly abroad in places like the Middle East and South America, so politicians there have a lot of practice and are pretty much a self-select bunch of Psychopaths and Sociopaths, plus the Press there has long morphed in exactly the same direction becoming little more than Propaganda).

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They know we’ll unite behind cost of living and healthcare. They need to promote division to stay in power. It’s all so fucking obvious in hindsight.

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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I love how this frame captured them both so well. If you look into the candidate’s eyes you see frustration. If you look into the Fox drone’s eyes, you see a big smiling face on an inflatable clown punching bag that’s about to tilt back to the right.

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• SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And it works, every time. It brings out MAGAs to vote for the people who will harm them.

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• lemmyng@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Y’know, looking back and forth between the image of them, Waters looks more skinwalker than human.

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• Hikermick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is the way

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