cross-posted from: piefed.blahaj.zone/c/…/valid-point
that’s dumb. I have a wallet and so does everyone else I know in my age. Im gEn Z. these stupid generational labels make no sense
Valid point
Submitted 6 days ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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LinkeSocke@feddit.org 6 days ago
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 6 days ago
This is a pretty old meme. I can’t remember the context anymore
LinkeSocke@feddit.org 6 days ago
Even if you pay by phone, there is so much other stuff in my Wallet.
binarytobis@lemmy.world 6 days ago
From what I can tell in this thread, most people carry wallets outside of generational divides. There is also a significant number of generational-independent psychopaths who have absolutely unhinged systems like “I just carry lose cards in my pocket because I don’t want to take ten minutes picking out a wallet”.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 6 days ago
Uhm… on top of not having my phone as my single payment method… where should I carry my id and driver’s license and medical card if not in the wallet? Should I carry them loose in the pocket? Or in my bag? Why? That’s so unconvenient and in the long term ends up damaging them.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I barely keep my phone on me, period. I hate the thing.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
I have a job that prohibits me from having a phone during working hours. It broke me of my dependency and now ive notice people getting irritated if i dont respond in minutes. Some days, they’ll just have to wait til 5 until I can check it again.
But it’s also made me so much less attached. I regularly dont have it on me
nullify3112@lemmy.world 6 days ago
What is your secret? The doom rectangle cannot be evaded…
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
So, Gen z just like doesn’t carry those or will have maybe one at a time if they have to just hanging loose. Yeah, it’s weird.
Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 6 days ago
Gen z here, I do use a wallet but many people use these sticky wallets that you slap on the back of your phone case to hold their cards.
I don’t use them because 1. what if something slips out somehow and 2. damn you lose your phone and wallet in one.
We don’t just leave shit hanging loose lol. We still have credit cards and drivers licenses to hold.
testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
I usually get plastic sleeves with those, so yes, I just have a stack of cards in my pocket. At least I can fit it in together with a phone.
Although I don’t know how to deal with coins. A jacket brings me extra pockets at least, which is why I can more or less only use cash during winter.
Buying a wallet requires a choice. Searching for something right, and I am too lazy for that, so in the pocket it goes. Unfortunately, I often lack pockets. So if I am not traveling, I’ll just leave out my phone, so I can still fit in keys, cards, and a shopping bag. After all, I don’t need a phone most of the time anyway.lunaowo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
why would you even carry your id? the driver’s license is always in the car and the medical card is only needed for appointments at the doctor
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 6 days ago
I don’t know anyone who keeps their license in their car. Car culture is different in the us vs the eu, so maybe not as common over there, but sometimes if traveling with friends you will switch who drives. You should have your license on you if you’re driving. Additionally, it’s good to have your ID in case you forget your credit card somewhere and now you have a document with your picture on it that has a name that matches the card. I still get carded sometimes when buying alcohol or entering certain places so it’s not unusual to want to keep it on hand in case you want drinks or something.
Also good to have your ID and insurance information in case of an emergency.
Rooster326@programming.dev 6 days ago
Because a cop can stop you at any time, in any place for any reason and while (legally) you don’t need to show it - your day will suddenly get a whole lot worse if you don’t.
And In the year of our Lord - you must also worry about ICE
smh@slrpnk.net 6 days ago
I might drive my car, I might drive my partner’s, I might drive my coworker’s car. I might collapse on the street and someone needs to figure out who I am from what I’m carrying. The license/id stays with me, not the vehicle.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 6 days ago
If you need to use a car that’s not yours, what would you do if the license is in the car?
And why wouldn’t you carry your id with you? Not just police might want to stop and ask for it, but what if you get involved in an accident and have to get taken to the hospital while unconscious? How are they going to id you to know who to call? Just to say an example.
Also, your medical card should always be with you in case of an emergency. You never know when will you need to be taken to the hospital and having it with you makes everything much easier.
There’s no advantage that I can think of in not carrying your documents (or even copies of them) with you.
CannedYeet@lemmy.world 6 days ago
The grocery store I buy booze at forces the cashier to scan your ID. Also I walk there.
Banana@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Because in a lot of places you legally have to carry your ID on you, not just when you’re driving.
bumblefumble@mander.xyz 6 days ago
In Denmark those are all available on your phone.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 6 days ago
Yes, and if your phone runs out of battery, gets stolen or simply dies in any way, you won’t have access to them.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
I used to have a separate wallet, but i switched to this magnetic billfold thing that attaches to the back of my phone. It has enough room for an ID, credit card, debit card, and ond of those tile locators shaped like a credit card. Unfortunately these are horrible for user privacy, but it helps me find it if I lose it. In a pinch, it can also hold a small fold of cash.
I almost never need the other things my old wallet held: insurance card, cash, other credit cards or gift cards…? What else did I even carry? I still have my old wallet at home and a small box I use to keep other ID cards, gift cards, etc.
The magnetic thing also doubles for a hands-free phone stand if I want to set the phone down on a surface and watch tv while I’m eating lunch or something.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 5 days ago
If you lose your phone, you lose everything tho.
bob@feddit.uk 6 days ago
I strayed into not taking a wallet out with me briefly, then I realised my life shouldn’t rely on Apple or Android (or my (lack of) ability to charge devices).
1984@lemmy.today 6 days ago
Exactly. We should decrease our dependency on these companies, not increase it.
OpenPassageways@programming.dev 6 days ago
I wouldn’t mind that so much if those payment methods were more universally accepted, but they aren’t.
I use a wallet case so I can put cards in the back of my phone case instead of carrying a wallet.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 days ago
My state doesn’t accept your license/id to be digital, id also have to walk a few miles before I found the nearest sidewalk, so the idea of going anywhere without a wallet it absurd.
heh@lemmy.world 5 days ago
A guy in front me at the grocery store had to ditch a cart full of items because his phone was dead.
Super embarrassing for them.
zerofk@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
I love how millennial has become the new code for old. Gen X has been skipped again. As always.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Gen X has been skipped again.
I’m not mad at that.
The less we are noticed, the more autonomy we have.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
I agree, Gen X deserves some of the inter-generational posting spat.
I’ll start: the “Mtv generation” is largely freaking out over people breaking gender norms. Guess its only ok when Prince does it.
architectonas@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Paying with cash is the most private method. I hope it stays.
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You already can’t in so many places. I thought it was required to accept cash, but apparently that’s only for paying the government.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
Cash is required to be accepted to clear a debt.
Cash is not required to be accepted to make a purchase.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
You mean Friends lied to me!?
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Some ATMs track the serial numbers of the bills you get. Even then, though, it’s more private than a card. Unless they have video of you shoving the bills into a machine for payment, say at Walmart self-checkout, they really don’t know how many hands the bills passed through before they passed through a reader again. Also, good if you can get a store to break the large bills for you. Then, they only know that you paid for a pack of gum with a 100-dollar bill.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 days ago
My wallet isn’t owned by a tech conglomerate that has access and admin privileges to everything inside of it. Also, I just don’t want my phone to be everything, especially my I.D.
nullspace@lemmy.world 6 days ago
My phone’s dead. Guess I’m broke until I find a charger.
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
I work retail and the number of phones/watches that have just failed to work means I’m never replacing my card. Sure, they could just be idiots who don’t know how to use it like the people who can’t use cards, but card just works.
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Cards also need to take quite a bit of damage before they stop working too.
nbailey@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
I once accidentally ran over my credit card with my car after a mishap at a parking garage pay station. Still works fine, though it does have some road rash. Lets see an iPhone do that!
vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Massive debt Massive damage
Bluewing@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Or if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do, stores just don’t turn that feature on.
merc@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
That’s basically why I carry a wallet – as backup. I got used to leaving my wallet at home unless I was driving and I needed my license. But, then one time I spent 45 minutes shopping tried to pay, and for some unknown reason I couldn’t pay with my phone. Now, if the phone doesn’t work I have the NFC card in the wallet. If the NFC doesn’t work on the card, it also has a chip so I can insert it. If, for some reason, that fails too, I have enough cash for at least the main things I want to buy.
If I’m going out and not planning on doing a major shop, and don’t need to drive, the wallet stays home. If something comes up the phone will probably work, but it’s not worth the extra space to carry the wallet just in case.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
Let me break out my checkbook in the grocery store line and watch their souls leave their bodies.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
But… How do they pay for the finest black market goods if they don’t have a wallet to carry cash around?
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
I’ve paid for drugs at festivals with card because the dealer had an iZettle
shneancy@lemmy.world 6 days ago
the future is here
boboliosisjones@feddit.nu 6 days ago
so curious what the charge was listed as
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 6 days ago
Many of my dealers were accepting Cashapp and Venmo when I got sober a few years ago.
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Yeah but inside it is $3.50
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Nah. It’s just cards.
blackbeans@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
Same here. I can go with only a phone but then I would miss:
- my ID card (mandatory here)
- my driver’s license card (mandatory when driving)
- my health insurance card
- my debit card (for when wireless payment isn’t available)
- my credit card
- my public transport card
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 days ago
>it was about that time that i noticed @OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world was about 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era
smh@slrpnk.net 6 days ago
I left my wallet on my work desk and a youngling helped walk me through using my phone to pay for my drive-through coffee order. I felt so cool and high tech.
Of course, when we got to “turn on NFC” the youngling asked what NFC was. I think I told him it was like Bluetooth and let the phone talk to the card reader.
My older “forgot my wallet” technique was to make an online order for pick up and enter my organically memorized credit card information into the online form.
Leviathan@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Admittedly, I only have a couple of gen Z friends, but they both have the biggest wallets of anyone I know.
Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Us millennials must age gracefully if youth can’t recognize our age until they ask for our wallet
belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
Do kids in the US not have wallets? I don’t think I know anyone who doesn’t have one (in Germany)
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
Enjoy Google knowing all your transactions! angrily waves cane
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 6 days ago
Idk What this people could be on about, I’m 22 and like, I have a wallet and a miniwallet that detaches from the main wallet.
Paper cash I usually don’t have.
Lumidaub@feddit.org 6 days ago
People keep talking about cash but I have a bunch of other shit in my wallet too, like ID card, insurance cards, bank card, several coupons, a bottle return receipt, cancer screening documentation, antiFamily card, pension card, organ donor card, and I don’t even have a driver’s license or that would go in there too.
Where do the youngsters keep all that?
Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Police, show us you ID or got to prison.
Oh you see I’m a gen z…
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
I get it you can pay with your phone these days. But I also have an ID and a public transportation card which can’t be on my phone. Also I have cash on me. Where to keep that? Every time I pull out my phone or keys money falls out of I keep it loosely in there. I know Gen Z doesn’t have any money, but where do you keep your drivers licence and public transportation card? And insurance card? Where do you keep your drugs then? I have some coke and keta in there as well. Putting it in my pockets and it ends up in the washing machine. And I keep a set of earplugs in there for when I go to a party or concert. Because I would always forget to grab them, I now have them with me all the time.
khepri@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Yeah, humans still occasionally acquire important small pieces of paper or plastic that are convenient to stow in some type of small container that can be keep on the person, what a shock.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 6 days ago
I feel personally attacked, but I can block it with my thick wallet.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You guys don’t pay with cash?
So every purchase you make, doesn’t matter how small, you give a cut to the payment processor? I’d be fucking pissed if I were a small shop selling to you. In fact there are many shops that just refuse to sell if you buy something too cheap through a payment processor.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 6 days ago
How are you expected to buy a house if you don’t have a wallet with all your wealth in it?
beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
When I’m out I keep my phone on airplane mode and in a little faraday bag. I am not dragging out my phone and waiting for it to reacquire signal every time I want to buy cigarettes. Nevermind that defeats the point of the faraday bag…
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
So where they gonna store their condom then?
PurpleHawkeye619@lemmy.world 6 days ago
If I was much older I wouldn’t even count as a millennial, and Im genuinely shocked by some of these replies.
People don’t seem to realize
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Phone cases can have credit card holders in them
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Some states now have virtual driver’s licenses
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if your phone breaks or whatever all your data is accessible from another device and freeze all your accounts if for some reason you skipped #1.
There really is no need for a wallet anymore.
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darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Meanwhile I’m over here with my 1.5in thick wallet with a shitton of different cards and cash.
los0220@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I was born in 2000, so I count as gen Z, and I genuinely prefer using physical debit card to paying with a phone (except when I need to touch the keyboard on a terminal).
But I’m weird like that and I like physical things, like my wallet with a sewing kit and bottle opener. In other pocket I keep a knife and a small flashlight
And I’m not installing my government app, and especially I’m not installing some shitty gym membership app, when I can have a card in my wallet.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 6 days ago
There are cash only fairs and stuff but then you just take cash in your pocket or bra
NoPanko@feddit.uk 6 days ago
Im not about to trust a single point of failure with everything. If my phone breaks I want alternative options
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 days ago
It’s OK, Gramps, let’s get you back to bed.
NoPanko@feddit.uk 6 days ago
Kids these days with their newfangled ideas!
autriyo@feddit.org 6 days ago
I have 10€ in my phones battery compartment, because sometimes I leave my wallet at home, or forget it.
And visa has outages sometimes…
RogueBanana@piefed.zip 6 days ago
It became a habit for me whenever I am leaving home. Phone and hand kerchief in right pocket, wallet and keys in left pocket. If any item is missing I feel an absolute dread that can’t be ignored. Sometimes dap and iem in right and left pocket when it’s one of those trips.
tempest@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
You have a phone battery compartment?
toynbee@piefed.social 6 days ago
I’ve memorized my credit card details for a decade and a half. I don’t often forget my wallet, but it has happened. The few times it has, cashiers have been confused but generally managed to make it work when I’ve given them the numbers. (And to be clear, I’m grateful to them for accommodating the situation.)
I’ve never considered physically embodying cash within my phone. I’m super paranoid about leaving it behind ever since I broke my ankle and had to call my wife to save me, so I’m less likely to forget it than I am my wallet. Thanks for the idea!
DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 5 days ago
I also have money in my phone case, and I always forget about it when needed.
Evotech@lemmy.world 6 days ago
If visa/mastercard has an outage the edge (nets etc) will cover your payment. This happens automatically after 3 seconds.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Strangely enough thats exactly why I dont carry a wallet. I carry all the things you’d expect in your wallet, but spread out over all my pockets.
NoPanko@feddit.uk 6 days ago
I am far too scatterbrained for that, I would spend half my day searching my pockets
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
Depending on how much stuff that is, that’s actually insane.
socsa@piefed.social 6 days ago
I will lose a wallet and keys, but I won’t lose my phone. It’s that simple. I have a keypad lock on my house and a car which uses a phone key, so I only carry my phone and it’s the most liberating thing ever. A few years back I rented again for a year when I moved to a new city, and the mental stress of needing to carry a key around was so much higher than I remembered it being.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Eh, my wallet is a single point of failure. My phone is/can be backed up and recovered if lost, stolen, or broken.
Not to mention, if you lose your phone, you can remotely deactivate it, and it (can) take a pin or biometric to unlock the phone and access the data. Your lost/stolen wallet means anyone who has it has access to all the info in it, and you have to go through the hassle of deactivating cards and getting new cards.
In a better world, phone-based payment and IDs would be far superior. The problem is that the current companies and governments involved in setting that up are a bunch of invasive money-grubbing fuckwads.
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 6 days ago
I learned my lesson when my banking app had an error with location detection and wouldn’t let me pay. Luckily I was with someone I could borrow the money from. I now always carry a backup, lol.
Redjard@reddthat.com 6 days ago
Get a card binder. Can even put in a note or two with rarely used cards.