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A rogue object so strange, scientists aren’t sure what to call it.

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  • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So, my understanding is that the Simp is all alone?

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Just like me fr

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      • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        If you are being serious, please find some local in person hobby groups that interest you and join them. It's absolutely worth it.

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      • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Pretty normal for simps. Sorry.

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    • X@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Being that size can be really fucking intimidating to others.

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  • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    SIMP? More like PGTOW (Planets Going Their Own Way)

    This planet is no orbiter.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I formally propose Planets Gone Wild. All in favor, say aye.

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      • Jayve@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Orbs Gone Wild.

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    • IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hate that I laughed at that

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  • Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    wtf,they have several classifications.

    • free-floating planetary-mass object
    • exoplanet
    • rogue planet
    • brown dwarf

    welcome to science where theres names, AND acknowledgement that things change with new data

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So, my understanding of auroras is, the planet’s magnetic field draws particles emitted by the sun toward the poles, and as those particles interact with the atmosphere they glow. So without a star and thus without solar wind, where do the aurora come from?

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    • Gust@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean, it has a magnetic field 6 or 7 orders of magnitude higher than ours. Id guess that extra strength allows it to pull particles from much further away and possibly from sources much more reticent to give up their particles than solar wind

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      • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Both the magnetic field strength and charged particle flux fall off proportional to the square of the distance from the planet / star respectively, so I doubt it gets much of anything even with a strong magnetic field unless it’s also near a star.

        I’d also point out that the particles aren’t really attracted by the earths magnetic field, we’re just in the pathway, and the magnetic field funnels them to the poles. It’s more guidance than attraction.

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I see cheap MRIs

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    • crazycraw@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Im guessing it only occurs when it is in a cloud or trail of charged particles. or perhaps there is a local (climatic?) cycle that sends charged particles to the poles.

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    • KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Kind of, but not really.

      Auroras dont necessarily need a stars radiation. Any old radiation will do, so long as there are charged particles floating around. Jupiter, for example, has gigantic continuous aurora around the magnetic poles. If auroras only came from the sun, and the earth is much closer to the sun than Jupiter, wouldn’t earth have a bigger aurora than Jupiter?

      No, obviously. The size of the aurora depends on the size of the magnetic field interacting with charged particles and the number of those charged particles.

      In the case of supermassive planets like Jupiter and this rogue planet, they produce way more of their own radiation than they recieve from the sun or space. This rogue “planet” in particular is so massive that it could actually fuse deuterium down in the core just with the pressures and temperatures of gravity crushing all that matter down. If you pumped enough hydrogen in there to quadruple the mass, it would probably ignite into a star quite comparable to our sun.

      For that reason, it’s better to think of this as more of a baby star that didn’t quite eat enough wheaties than a planet in the traditional sense we think of here in our solar system.

      With the crazy physics that come with suns and near dwarfs with similar mass, it’s no surprise that it generates a titanic magnetic field, and as a bonus, it produces its own radiation. It creates all the necessary ingredients it needs to make it’s own spectacular auroras with no actual outside interaction.

      Tl;dr it makes it’s own aurora

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    • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The theory seems to be captured radiation fields. Earth even has one. A stray planet and its halo of interstellar objects might have a very large and complex radiation belt system.

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    • m4xie@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Just what I was wondering.

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  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Strangely Independent Massive Planet - Simp

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Maybe we could attract it with an OnlyFans subscription.

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    • P1k1e@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You mean OnlyPlanets

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      • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Planets Only - Adult Swim

        Young, dumb, and not-orbiting a sun… ;)

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    • IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Let’s not. I like the solar systems orbits exactly as they are

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well, there’s a stronger case being made every day for flinging ourselves into the sun.

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  • dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIMP_J013656.5%2B093347

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    • plyth@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Detecting SIMP J01365663+0933473 with the VLA through its auroral radio emission,

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  • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    wait is this real or a joke? do we have a new planet that I’ve never heard of??

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    • Beacon@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This planet isn't in our solar system. We've found 6,053 exoplanets already, so it's a safe bet that there's lots more of them than you're aware of

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exoplanet

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    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      We have discovered over 6000 exoplanets in total, and over 100 in this year. I’d be surprised if you knew of all of them

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      • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I mean… it’s definitely possible, I have seen a person naming every subdivision of the world, which is a bit less than the amount of exoplanets we know (~4000 vs. ~6000), but only by 2000, so eventually some person will just do that.

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    • belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Galaxy, not Solar System. There are a lot of planets in our galaxy that you’ve probably never heard of

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    • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yep

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  • DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Welcome to 2016. Mike brown and Konstantin Batygin basically proved that the only way we could explain the orbits of Pluto and other KBO was a massive 9th, yet to be discovered rogue planet more than likely ejected from our inner solar system during planet formation.

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  • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Interesting, I just finished reading Rendezvous With Rama.

    If a massive object like that was to pass through our neighbourhood I think it could fling planets out of the solar system.

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    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Even with this mass this planet would have to pass one of the outer planets extremely close and quite slowly to have a chance of dragging a planet out of the solar system.

      This is the same sort of idea as when galaxies merge. There is little chance of our solar system being effected in that scenario. There is just too much space to space.

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      • MohamedMoney@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Aren’t we currently galaxy merging?

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    • clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s one of my very favorite books. It’s fantastic at setting the mood. The further books are ok but not as much to my taste.

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      • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I still need to read the book! My main familiarity with RAMA is the 199(5?) PC game that was mind bogglingly obtuse with math puzzles but the world was SO fascinating! I need to figure out how to play it again with my grown up brain…

        The soundtrack was INCREDIBLE…

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      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Oh, I absolutely loved all of them, but it’s def a different kind of sci-fi (less human-techy).

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I love that whole series!!

      But yes, this simp is basically a failed star that was prob flung out of some nursery.

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    • charonn0@startrek.website ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You may enjoy Fritz Leiber’s short story, “A Pail of Air”, which involves the Earth being ejected.

      www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/51461

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  • beejboytyson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ofc the simp is cucked in the corner not allowed to join the orgy of planets.

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    • Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Doh!

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Name seems wrong but you do you, SIMP 0136

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  • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So how come there’s an aurora when there’s no star to spray it with electromagnetic radiation?

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    • KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because the planet produces its own radiation. That much mass means this is less a “planet” and more of a proto star. It’s actually large enough to fuse deuterium if the right conditions were met. Pour enough hydrogen in there to raise the mass a three of four times what it has now and it’d be comparable to our sun.

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      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So it’s like smoke or burning embers before a flame ignites?

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      • Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Would this be a star which wasn’t big enough and fizzled out into a big planet?

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      • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Cool, thanks for that!

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      better question, is a star required for EMR?

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      • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Nah, that’s a yes or no question, that’s a worse question. I want to know what’s causing the aurora, if not a star.

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  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I remember this Mainframe cartoon!

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  • Zier@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Borg Sphere Model 2025

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  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s a picture of Jupiter and there’s a star needed for an aurora to happen.

    Any scientific sources to back this story up?

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    • Midnitte@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No it is indeed an artists impression of the planet - it’s on the wiki page.

      I’m assuming that aurora only needs solar wind to happen on earth - or that solar wind outside the heliosphere is strong enough you don’t need a star for it to happen.

      In 2018 astronomers said "Detecting SIMP J01365663+0933473 with the VLA through its auroral radio emission, also means that we may have a new way of detecting exoplanets, including the elusive rogue ones not orbiting a parent star …

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    • InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The picture is definitely just some artist’s conception, but it’s not claimed to be a photo or meant to be anything other than what it is, an artist’s conception. You’re right that for the most part, a star is needed for aurora, at least for the kind of aurora we have on Earth since it depends on the solar wind interacting with the planet’s magnetic field. But if there is anything that can be said about what we’ve discovered astronomically in the last century or so it’s that there are always exceptions to every supposed rule.

      The authors attribute the auroras to SIMP-0136’s magnetic field being vastly more powerful than Jupiter’s (750 times stronger according to a previous study). Electrons (presumably stripped from atoms by internal processes) would flow with the field and hit atmospheric molecules fast enough to make them glow, they conclude.

      • How Does Rogue Planet SIMP-0136 Have Auroras When It Has No Stellar Wind?

      Aside from the aurora part though, none of this is exceptional or rare (and maybe even the aurora part isn’t rare either). Rogue planets are probably extremely common, possibly even more common than planets that are gravitationally bound in a star system. And objects of this size, which is really around where we’d start calling it a brown dwarf, are also very common, with more of them than there are main sequence stars.

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      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thanks

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  • pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    He’s just jealous 'cause the dorks on Earth called him a failed star.

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  • huppakee@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just call it an URO and be done with it.

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  • SethTaylor@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Follow internet tradition and call it Planet McPlanety-Face ?

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  • Bazell@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Lonely queen.

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  • BaroqueInMind@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Likely a brown dwarf or magnetar

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    • Naz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Looks like a brown dwarf, especially from the Wiki page

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      • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I was going to say, I read somewhere at uni that if Jupiter was 14 times as large, it would have become a brown dwarf.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    simp 0136 really needs love. seriously!

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  • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Looks fake

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    • Elgenzay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s an artists impression. Here’s the real thing

      Image

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      • Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Isn’t this a screenshot from Star Control 2?

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      • YaGirlAutumn@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        how do we know it has auroras?

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