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• saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was at a trivia night and a question was, “Apart from humans, what’s the two highest populated species in the animal kingdom?”

  Now, I’m not the smartest brain inhabiting a future corpse, but I did do basics in school.

  I say to my group, “Maybe plankton? But I don’t know if there’s some technicality over that being a plant or something. If I were to guess, probably ants and then flies.” We agreed and went with that.

  NOPE!!!

  Cats and dogs apparently!!!

  This didn’t even make sense to us if considering just the mammals.

  I protested.

  The quiz master said “The question is about the animal kingdom.”

  “Well, if insects aren’t animals, what are they?”

  He dug in his heels, we weren’t getting the points. And to make things even more bizarre, most other teams said cats and/or dogs to get 1 or 2 points.

  We found a new trivia night.

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also isn’t there like 12 bazillion chickens per person? No fucking way could it be cats/dogs.

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    • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Rats? They are millions and millions of them. They breed rapidly.

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      26 billion chickens globally, apparently.

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  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The most annoying part of that is that cats and dogs both eat meat! He thinks there are more cats and dogs than the chickens and cows (etc) we feed them? What demented food web did they teach him in elementary school biology?

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  • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would have guessed ants, but I think they’re just in the top 10? I wonder if humans are even in the top 1000, lol.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cats and dogs aren’t even species; they’re vague categories. I tried to find the actual answer to this question, but trying to nail down individual species is proving impossible. Every source is like “copepods” or “ants” like that isn’t incredibly broad. ChatGPT says it’s the Antarctic krill with 5x10^14 individuals. Going from there, the WWF says there’s over 7x10^14, and Wikipedia only says they’re one of the most abundant species, but not the most. I’m not going to get an answer to this question, and I’m going to be mildly annoyed about it infrequently for the rest of time.

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    • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Krill were my first choice, squids might be up there too, but the word ‘species’ instead of a more broad taxonomic term is a special limit.

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    • OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I know it’s the formatting being goofy, but ^7x10^14 is a very, very large number.

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  • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “What animal breathes through its butt”

    I answered sea cucumber. They wanted sea turtle. But we complained and they accepted our answer too :)

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Arson out of the question due to rain?

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Humans aren’t even in the top 10. They’re probably not in the top 100, really.

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  • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If he meant mammals the answer is mice and rats.

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  • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There might be the nuance that there are many species of ants and flies, though still idk if any one of them outdoes humans, their pets and chickens.

    Wikipedia’s page on biomass says that ants can compete with humans in global biomass (though the estimates vary wildly), but there are 15700 species of ants.

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  • answersplease77@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    im really intrested. what is their answer for if insects were not animals?

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They didn’t have one and just doubled down on them not having vertebrae so therefore weren’t part of the animal kingdom.

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• Wander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  OMG in still confused at this.

  “I don’t eat animals”

  “Do you eat fish?” (My thinking people say they are vegetarian but are actually pescaterian but don’t like saying it for some reason)

  “Yea but thats not an animal”

  “Hahaha yea it is”

  “No it isnt”

  “Wait what? … If its not an animal what is it? A tree? Haha”

  “It’s a fish!”

  “Which is an animal”

  “No! An animal is an animal, and a fish is a fish!”

  “Fish are animal. Look we can look it up to check if you want”

  “I’m not going to look it up because I know a fish isn’t an animal. I don’t need to look it up!”

  “… … I guess I can’t argue with that”

  This all took place during pre drinks which is why I thought I was getting fucked with at the start. But I never realised how so many people are walking around blindingly, confidently, unshakeably wrong. She got mad.

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  • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is how I felt as a kid when my peers insisted the thumb is not a finger. Like what are you talking about bro? If I asked before this came up, you’d have said you have ten fingers, not eight.

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      this is how I feel as a Spanish speaker when English tell me toes aren’t fingers

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s wild to me… And then to get mad? Like “how dare you make me learn something”

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    • Wander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not the US BTW.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are kind of right … there is no such thing as a fish.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of course there’s such a thing as a fish! A fish is any swimming vertebrate (or its descendant), such as a tuna, or a duck, or a human.

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    • zakobjoa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Podcast mentioned.

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    • Wander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If I went down that rabbithole I think she would have punched me

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    • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Still an animal though

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    • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No such thing as birds.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m able to understand conceptually that “meat” doesn’t literally mean any animal’s muscle tissue in every language. Sometimes it’s a more vague concept of a large mammal’s meat and excludes fish, poultry, etc. And that’s okay. But I also hate it.

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My mom often cooks “meat free”. There’s always some sausage in there like Chorizo. Tastes great, but it’s certainly not free of meat.

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    • binarytobis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve never once voiced this thought out loud, but every time someone says something like “I don’t want fish, I want to eat meat” I think “Well, you’re wrong, but OK.” There’s some arbitrary dividing line people assume is logical, but I don’t think it would hold up to serious scrutiny.

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    • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are organs other than muscle not meat?

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    More people need to be told to their face that they’re imbeciles.

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    • PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just confusing animals and mammals. Cause they’re both mals.

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  • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok, but you are wrong. While biology means animal is a member of animalia, people usually mean an animal that is capable of higher functions, e.g. a dog, sheep etc.

    Most fish don’t express themselves in an understandable way. Mussels barely have neurons.

    You gotta relax. Any sane human being should have clearly understood where they draw the line.

    You also do wrong stuff all the time because it is useful to be wrong.

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    • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve only ever known Christians to think fish aren’t animals. I’m pretty sure that’s something random that the Vatican decided for bending lent rules or some shit.

      at least in my life most people do not have a “reasonably underseood line” where they arbitrarily stop considering animals as animals due to their perceived lack of communication. they have a line where they stop caring about them, but that’s usually about how cute they are, not about how they communicate. if more people understood koalas better they’d be way less popular.

      most people just don’t actually think that much about it. trivia is for the people that do think about things. and it certainly should at least have its answers checked on google.

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    • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What the fuck are you on about???

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think you mean fish don’t express themselves in a way you understand. Some are lone hunters who have to rely on their wits to survive, while some have complex social interactions. Some even pass the mirror test.

      I don’t think you should make excuses for why some things deserve life or kindness and others don’t. I think it’s better to just be honest with yourself about your personal biases and say you like dogs too much to hurt them, but that you don’t care as much about fish.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mussels aren’t fish.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think people “usually” mean that at all. And even if I did, why would I care what people mean by it if it’s wrong?

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    • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re somehow both wrong, and useless here. How did you manage to disprove yourself so thoroughly?

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    • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s not what animal means.

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    • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t understand your nonsense… you must be a fish.

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    • MisterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah buddy, we all went to school, and it’s abundantly clear that in modern English, and animal is part of the Kingdom Animalia.

      So, the only people (in the English speaking world) who don’t think of insects or fish an animals, either are of a much, much older generation, or didn’t do very well in school.

      Most fucking 6-year-olds, in Australia at least, would be able to answer yes to “is a fish an animal?”.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fish just express themselves in a way different from mammals, and just as capable of ‘higher functions’ as any other animal.

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    • piccolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re just jealous fish have more creative abilities than yourself.

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  • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    She got mad

    Laugh in her face then walk away and let her be mad

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  • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m vegan, but i eat cows. Cows aren’t animals, cows are cows.

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• mosspiglet@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When I was in third grade I had an argument with my teacher who told me that insects were not animals. I was really into nature documentaries and books at the time and I knew that insects were in the animal kingdom. I remember going home and being really mad about it. That really soured me on school for the rest of my life. I’m still bitter about it!

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  • Chozo@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had a teacher in 6th grade who told us that God placed the earth the perfect distance from the Sun; a few inches closer and we'd all burn, and a few inches further and we'd all freeze. I got detention for standing on top of my desk and asking why I wasn't on fire yet.

    That kinda shattered my view of teachers being arbiters of knowledge.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, “This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!”

      • Douglas Adams

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    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      he’s out of line but he’s right

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The problem isn’t teachers, it’s that religion is a severe mental illness.

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  • Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Silimar, I had a teacher ask us to write down the first animal that came to mind and I wrote, “wolf spider” because to an 8 year old, there are few more bad ass sounding animals.

    She said “really? That’s the First animal you think of?” Eye roll

    Me: looks down at doodles of giant spiders battling tanks that shoot lightning, “it’s the only animal I’m thinking of right now…”

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  • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My third grade teacher told me that negative numbers aren’t real.

    Reflecting back on it thirty years later, it’s clear what she meant, but the poorly communicated statement and arguments she made were very upsetting to me, someone who at the time was very proud of having just learned the concept.

    In the moment, I had the same reaction as you. Shortly thereafter, my mom - who was not at all a fan of that teacher - took my brother and me out of public school and we started homeschool.

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  • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    autism has entered the chat

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• Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Try telling anybody that Humans are animals too and there’s a better than 50% chance they will argue with you about that as well.

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  • Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or that we are quite literally apes.

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• maniel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  same with birds, like people don’t count them as animals where i live

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  • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Today I learned about a whole new type of stupid I didn’t even know existed 😩

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  • ghost9@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, yeah. They are government drones. (/s just in case someone needs it)

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s pretty normal, historically-speaking. The modern classification system isn’t really very old compared to how long we’ve been talking about animals.

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  • Drusas@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is historically the case in Japan (birds and fish/seafood not being considered "meat"/animals when it comes to eating them). It started with Buddhism proscribing a meat-free diet, with that being impractical for the vast majority of the population unless some animals were still okay to eat.

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• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m impressed how common these “sightings” are given how rare I would have assumed this type of person would be. But lo and behold…

  I was visiting the aquarium some years ago and there was an expert at one of the exhibits talking about “these animals this and these animals that” when suddenly I heard a woman who had several children with her exclaim “Fish are animals?”

  I don’t recall at the moment how the staff member responded, other than I remember being impressed because it was a very non-judgmental and informative reply to her.

  Admittedly, my partner in crime and I were struggling with the darker elements of our animal nature – beet red from holding back our laughter and our eyes-only conversation wasn’t helping.

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  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Guess that dealing with public in that context everyday ot would be a common occurece and they already have a easy non judgmental answer for that

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• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or that mushrooms aren’t plants.

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  • mosspiglet@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    mutters to self don’t take the bait

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Um, ackshully, mushrooms are vegetables!

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  • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mushroom = sex organ of alien invaders

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• polysexualstick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have never in my life met a person who thought that insects aren’t animals, what are you talking about?

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• psygod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You think these people know biology nowadays? Come on now, look around you. If anything, they’re trying to get rid of biology courses in schools

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• ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Correct me if I’m wrong but like isn’t every living thing an animal? Like trees and fungi too? Or is there something I’m missing?

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And they get mad when you tell them humans are, too.

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• lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m an animal too

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• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No matter how you feel about her, this is one of those pics that speak a thousand words.

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• kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And imagine telling someone that Sun is a star…

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• greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m still not totally clear on where the line for plants is, what’s the deal with phytoplankton? Why isn’t brown algae a plant? What are archaea? Also wtf is a species? is there a point in learning biology where things start to make sense again or does in only get muddier from here

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think language plays a factor in how you think.

  When I think of the English word “Animal”, I think of a picture of a deer or a cow in a textbook. When I think in Chinese, 动物, I extrapolate the meaning of the word, 动 which means “moving”, and 物 meaning “object”, so its easy to know what is and isn’t a 动物 (animal), the word is self-explanatory.

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  people that

  people *who

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• boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well if not animals, what are they? Plants? Mushrooms? lmao

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• jaykrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Removed the annoying text next to her face.

  Image

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• Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Actually, this is how I look at people who think stating that insects are animals makes them big brains… Its right up there, with “Spiders arent incests because they have 8 legs.” or “The sun is actually a star!” or “America is actually a continent”. Its always the most basic of shit that people who try to make others feel small use during these annoying conversations.

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• Binturong@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The look to which my response is “Oh… I’m sorry I didn’t know about your disability”.

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• tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s suspiciously specific.

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• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One of the true Cincinnati Bengals.

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