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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Vegetables aren’t real. They made up the classification just to sell things that aren’t fruits.

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    • owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Big Celery just trying to legitimize crunchy water

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      • NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I could go for some refreshingly crunchy big celery right now

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    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same with nuts. Botanically, not a thing.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        johnny is human tho

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    • HowAbt2day@futurology.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally

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    • HowAbt2day@futurology.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally

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    • HowAbt2day@futurology.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally

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  • Klear@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FFTFY:

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    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not fixed as ‘content not viewable in your region’

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      • Klear@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You need to be in a better region.

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      • Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fixed now?

        mirror of of image

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      • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The fuck region are you in?

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      • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        VPNs are cheap

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah I knew mushrooms were shady shit since when they snuck in with the badgers. Nobody batted an eye back then and look at where we are now.

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I always categorized them as a snake

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    • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Big Mushroom is taking the slow play, and frankly, it’s impressive

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    • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why you hatin’ on mushrooms? They’re a fungi, if you get to know 'em

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  • Tudsamfa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fruit has a botanical and a culinary definition.

    Vegetable only has a culinary definition.

    Trying to decide on what food fits which category purely on the botanical definition of fruit is silly. In many other languages, the botanical and culinary definition even use completely different words. It’s like saying lobster is red meat using the scientific definition of red.

    But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, far too sweet to fit nicely into vegetable.

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    • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Rhubab’s just sour celery

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    • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, far too sweet to fit nicely into vegetable.

      Oh boy, another reason to hate rhubarb.

      Also, you want a sweet vegetable? Sugar beet.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        raw unprocessed sugar cane is delicious

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      THANK YOU

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    • blackbrook@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well vegetable used to be used sometimes to mean “plant”.

      Most people don’t really understand how words work.

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      • tlmcleod@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Vegetation. It’s right there in the root lol you’re 100% correct with people not getting how words work

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    • blibla@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it becomes somewhat interesting when fruit is differently taxed then vegetables.

      As was the case in a Supreme Court Ruling:

      Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304 (1893), is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court unanimously held that tomatoes should be classified as vegetables rather than fruits for purposes of tariffs, imports and custom

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    • bountygiver@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Having both definition of the same word that can be confused with each other is also silly, the culinary definition should find a new word.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fucking

    Fucking

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  • devedeset@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know this is probably a repost but the self-censorship is super annoying and has entered the lexicon in ways that can permanently damage human communication as a whole.

    Yeah sure censor stuff from kid shows but we’re at the point where “unalive” and “pdf file” are being used as code words. Everyone knows what they mean, even the censors.

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      100% agree, we live in a 1984 age.

      Also, using stupid words such as unalive doesn’t make any sense because the algorithm of social media companies knows exactly what it means.

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      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Its coming from Tiktok. Bytedance had heavy word censorship and if one of your comments or videos was flagged as inappropriate and had one of those words your account would be automatically suspended for review.

        So a lot of normal westerm words got flagged. Kill. Dead. Any word related to sex. Hole. (Lol) basically every curse word.

        Then there are gray words like Pedophile where people think it changes the algorithm to show your videos less if they contain them, but no one has any proof from what I can tell.

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      • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I use things like “he has chosen to meet his ancestors right then and there”

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s also extremely weird because people often just default to the “hidden meaning” completely ignoring context. There were so many instances where I was being shouted at for writing “CP” *on the Cyberpunk subreddit, it was just weird…

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    • obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s annoying that its driven by ad revenues, and made more dumb by the fact that if everyone can decode it, then they’re still advertising over sex and violence. So the whole endeavor is pointless.

      But I don’t think it will cause any harm. Humans have been using slang, code, and memetic language to obscure meaning from others and identify their in-crowds since the dawn of human language. Some of it is dumber than others, but it won’t cause any harm.

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    • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is absolutely no chance that this idiotic self censorship can permanently damage human communication.

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  • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sorry, who exactly is out here calling mushrooms vegetables??

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    • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it goes in soup, it’s a vegetable. If it goes in Sangria, it’s a fruit.

      Next question please.

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      • Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Chicken and beef go in soup.

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Hmmm. Since breakfast cereal is demonstrably soup, that makes strawberries, Cheerios, and Reese’s Puffs all vegetables. Good to know.

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      • moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So water, salt, cheese, meat, and noodles are all vegetables?

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      • pitaya@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is water a fruit or a vegetable

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      • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As always, science sets us free.

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    • meadsteve@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I absolutely call them vegetables. It’s a kitchen term and it absolutely makes sense to categorise them alongside tomatoes, beans, carrots, squash and cabbage. People get too hung up on things only belonging to exactly one category.

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      • 7bicycles@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Seriously this whole thing is not a problem at all unless you’re somehow not familiar with words having more meaning. It’s a fruit (botanically) and not a fruit (culinary). I don’t understand how we’ve gotten like 40 years of discussion out of it at this point.

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    • BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Take a piece of paper with 3 squares drawn on it

      And hand a person a picture of an apple, tomato, pepper, cucumber, pork cutlet, and mushroom and ask them to put the pictures into the squares and then label each square

      Average person will definitely label a box as vegetables and put the mushrooms in it

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      • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well if you tell me to use only three categories and one of them will obviously be “meat”, then I won’t put them with apples.

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      • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why are we starting this scenario with the arbitrary restriction of 3? Yes, if you give people any number of items and tell them there is a finite number of categories, they were will find a way to divide those items into three. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t come up with a more compelling argument for their choices when told to divide into 4 groups.

        At no point have our options ever only been “fruit or vegetable,” but yeah I guess if you tell people those are their only choices of course they’ll adhere. But like… I’ve never known anyone who though those were the only choices?

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    • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I believe, it’s a US thing. This is a quote from the official Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGA):

      Other Vegetables: All other fresh, frozen, and canned vegetables, cooked or raw: for example, asparagus, avocado, bamboo shoots, beets, bitter melon, Brussels sprouts, cabbage (green, red, napa, savoy), cactus pads (nopales), cauliflower, celery, chayote (mirliton), cucumber, eggplant, green beans, kohlrabi, luffa, mushrooms, okra, onions, radish, rutabaga, seaweed, snow peas, summer squash, tomatillos, and turnips.

      Source: dietaryguidelines.gov/…/Dietary_Guidelines_for_Am… (page 28)

      I’ve read elsewhere that the reason for the DGA to conflate them, is because mushrooms have comparable nutrients to vegetables. So, from a dietary and regulatory viewpoint, it makes some amount of sense. But yeah, I feel like you could have just had a category “vegetables & mushrooms”.

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      • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I am American.

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    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Most.

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  • Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We just ignoring the mushrooms are also fruit(ing bodie)s?

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    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was going to bring it up if no one else did

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You mean, we apply plant language to them so they are also like plants? They are closer related to us though…

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  • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There certainly are feelings associated with the fact that we can analyze the DNA of rots

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    VEGETABLES DO NOT EXIST

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  • Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My wife and I like to joke that vegetables aren’t real and all of them are just something else in reality.

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    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re correct! “Vegetable” is a culinary term. “Fruit” is both botanical and culinary. The “tomato isn’t a fruit” nonsense comes from people trying to conflate the two; if we called botanical fruits “grunkles” we wouldn’t have this problem.

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      • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All in favor of renaming botanical fruits to “gruntled”?

        Aye

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    • FrankDeath@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      reddit.com/…/dropout_rising_vegetables_do_not_exi…

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have a simple flowchart to determine what is or isn’t a veggie:

    > Can I eat it? -> Yes -> Does it come from an animal? -> No = Vegetable

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    • RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Rice, my favorite vegetable.

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      • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        … Is it not?

        Being a grain (or even specifically a “Cereal grain”) doesn’t exclude it, see corn.

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s why they call you the bread man.

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  • Hasherm0n@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden

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  • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit

    Wisom is knowing to never add it to a fruit salad

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  • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    fucking fucking

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  • HowAbt2day@futurology.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How about shrimps and lobsters sneaking into the animal club while they are insects? Cockroaches of the sea and shit. Nah mean?

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  • ZombieMantis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s the difference between the culinary use of the word and the biological use of the word. I thought we already figured that out?

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tomatoes are biologically fruit, but culinary they are a vegetable.

    You wouldn’t expect them to put an orange slice on your burger because you asked for some veg, would you? But you’d expect tomatoes.

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  • tresspass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The thing is too that mushrooms don’t even cook like vegetables or even like a protein or anything. So not only are they not botanically vegetables, they aren’t even culinarily vegetables either.

    Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture, you’re probably cooking your mushrooms wrong.

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  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mushrooms are detachable fungal penises that jizz into the wind.

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  • Beacon@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When people say that they are wrong. There are two different definitions for the word "fruit". They're homonyms for completely different words. It's like if i ask you: Which is lighter, a black Mini Cooper, or a white Hummer? Depends on which definition of "lighter" you're asking about

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  • FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had always learned if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable or something else

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  • moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What? Who’s calling pumpkins, squashes, and cucumbers vegetables?

    And no one calls mushrooms vegetables: mushrooms are mushrooms.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All fruits are vegetables.

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  • LorIps@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    fucking fucking

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  • RoabeArt@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Aren’t fruits technically vegetables anyway? Like isn’t a “vegetable” simply any edible part of a plant?

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The fucking mushrooms.

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  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tomatoes will always be a vegetable to me. And I base that entirely on vibes.

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  • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In spanish tomatoes are called “hortalizas”, the others are “verduras” apart of “frutas”, fruits, in english only traduced with vegetables and fruits. Maybe because Spain has a better food culture. Mushrooms are something in between plants and animals in a separate genre. The US anyway differences only protein, sugar and decoration, tomatoes in Bottles from Heinz.

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  • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Vegetable is a culinary category, with no botanical/biological definition. I don’t see a reason why mushrooms don’t belong in it.

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