LainTrain
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- Comment on An information dark age is upon us. I’m logging off 17 hours ago:
Bleak as the world may be, Stewart’s writing always gets a smile and a laugh out of me. He’s got a remarkable ability to put the absurdity of our moment into simple and funny English, his famous “thrown in jail” sketch being perhaps the best example.
He’s absolutely right, too. We’re all here so on some level we already know that. This is no time to dilly-dally, we need to cultivate our alternative online spaces and cooperate and work together.
- Comment on Bloodletting recommended for Jersey residents after PFAS contamination 4 days ago:
I’m curious - why would someone need to bloodlet? I’m ignorant AF on this but I thought this was like, dark ages medicine?
- Comment on UK ‘one of world’s least work-oriented countries’ claims BrewDog founder - as he slams obsession with 'work-life balance' 5 days ago:
I totally agree, I think to encourage enthusiasm for work he should make all his employees equal shareholders with a stake in the business so all can benefit and run brewdog as a worker owned co-op, but something makes me think he won’t.
- Comment on Anon remembers kindergarten 6 days ago:
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- Comment on DeckSight: OLED mod for the LCD Steam Deck 6 days ago:
Yeah which is absurd, considering every other phone and mobile device (e.g. PS Vita) had OLEDs since 2011 at the latest.
- Comment on Anon remembers kindergarten 1 week ago:
I don’t remember either. Never even went to kindergarten. In my country it was just pre-school at like 6 then normal school at 7.
I remember getting a sega/Nintendo bootleg thing at 5 that broke almost immediately with some looney tunes game on it and some bootleg unlicensed figure abomination combinations of Spider-Man and power rangers.
I remember getting a PS1 eventually in around 2004, then PS2 a year later, a PSP a year after that and a PS3 in around 2008, plus the first Full HD TV we replaced our Samsung CRT TV/VCR with, I was apparently also responsible for busting the VCR part of that by shoving a tape in backwards as a baby.
I remember breaking my childhood best friend’s nose and it’s how we became friends. I remember being bullied for being different, mostly by being not a muslim and not as poor as some of the other kids.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
It’s called sample bias. You’re only talking about the artists you’ve personally met, not the statistics of artists as a whole.
I know what sample bias is.
If you read my linked comment carefully, I’m not talking about just people I’d met IRL personally, I genuinely don’t know of any actually struggling contemporary artbros.
Statistics lie, like I said, they may earn less on paper as a wage, but they are raking it in otherwise or have QoL far superior to even the top wagies, if they couldn’t, they’d be working at a factory.
And when I am talking about artists, I’m not talking about the small fraction that are in “high” arts with museums n shit.
And did I mention or imply I meant anything of the sort? No by artbros I just meant (like in the linked comment) people who are professionally doing things like animating, drawing, 3D modeling/CGI, writing, film or music.
also think you’ve got a bias in favor of tech bros because you see them as hard workers, and see artists as lazy elites.
Prove me wrong then.
It sounds to me that you you don’t really know a lot of artists and don’t really know a lot about this whole situation but still managed to form an opinion.
If that were the case I’d still know way more than you it seems.
Or do you have an actual counterpoint, like an example?
- Comment on Negotiations over AI are still holding up video game development - Mass Effect's Jennifer Hale explains why 1 week ago:
Course they do. So do users, nah? Files are files. Once you give someone info you can’t really take it back.
- Comment on Would you do Onlyfans if needed the money? 1 week ago:
Already have. If you want to limit the exposure to e.g. not damage any future career opportunities then just make it expensive. I did it for £12.99 a month, no free page, no PPV, no RP etc. and had about 5-6 users total across a few months so I ended up having close to ~£100 total which was good groceries money (pre the mid-2022 price inflation) for the month or so I was out of a job, not enough to live on on its own but a good bonus, meant I could eat something other than bread and beans.
Fwiw it was fun and a great ego boost ngl, kinda almost makes me wanna do it again even though I def don’t have to.
- Comment on Good morning I choose not violent just hungry. 1 week ago:
What is this device? Oversized pager?
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
Nah it’s cool DW, no offence taken.
We should support AI only as research in the public sector that is open sourced, leveling the playing field, rather than Corpos amassing evermore power.
We can’t make AI go away, and I’m sorry to those who feel it cheapens their life’s work or passion, but we can make it belong to the people. It was after all public sector research that got us to this point in the first place.
Also, fuck Sam Altman and Elon Husk and all the corpos and grifters in charge of them.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
I only smoke nicotine, cheers. I’ve heard of the trope but have never seen an example.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
I’m not outsourcing anything, why would you assume so? Do you?
I don’t really use LLMs at all and I haven’t used SD in ages. Are you trying to say art is stupid and pointless?
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
More projection. Why even respond if you have no counterpoint? If I’m such a nitwit gippity user, it shouldn’t be hard for you to enlighten us all, should it?
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
You do realise a barrier to entry doesn’t mean that something is literally impossible for everyone, but that it’s an obstacle for some?
It’s disingenuous comparing art someone would want to look at produced today to literal caveman drawings.
And yes artists are absolutely rich elites, the often very literal top 10%, feel free to look at my other comments ITT for why I’ve found this to be the case.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
bc you think you need chat gpt to think for you, or you
Woah woah turn down the projection man
or you just have no idea at all what “AI” is
I think I do, but feel free to enlighten me.
need to do a lot of research on how harmful it is
Are you a “do your own research” type, or are you going to state your case?
Comparing CGI render farms to AI servers?
Yes.
Actually I only advocate for locally run FOSS AI models because I’m anti-commercial-AI and broadly anti-capitalist as a whole.
So do tell me, how does my one gayming RTX GPU that can just about accommodate an LLM or SDXL compare to a render farm for Netflix/Hollywood slop powered by coal in third world country sweatshops they outsource to?
Comparing human inspiration and paid for asset packs to a computer rearranging existing, stolen art?
“Our glorious inspiration” “Their stolen art”
You don’t come off as mentally stable my friend, maybe log off and calm down for a bit?
- Comment on DeckSight: OLED mod for the LCD Steam Deck 1 week ago:
I’m glad someone made it but it’s just not a great value proposition.
Even if it shipped to the EU where OLED devices have usually been more popular (less iPhones), it’s a crappy 16:9 shorter screen, it looks like a bit of a pain to install and it’s really expensive.
It’s kinda wild to me there ever was an LCD steam deck to begin with, even my last handheld - the Vita - had OLED, but I guess they wanted it to be as cheap as possible which is admirable.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
We simply lose things that bring people joy and for what?
Why would you campaign to strictly make people less happy?
I disagree completely. Idk but creating beings millions of people joy, anything that democratizes it more accessible is a good thing. AI has absolutely brought many more people joy.
A world where a technology exists that can query the sum of human knowledge and skill to translate ideas into form but is gatekept because few people like feeling special is a horrifying dystopia and I can’t imagine how someone could be so fucking evil as to really wish for that.
Like really, I want to keep giving y’all benefit of the doubt that you simply don’t consider a perspective outside your own, but you don’t make it easy.
This technology makes some of those enjoyable jobs
Technology is what made those jobs enjoyable and accessible to those who do them now in the first place.
Nobody is forcing you to use AI or any technology, you can still farm goats and use them to make drums before you lay out a beat, people will probably be pretty impressed if you did that.
Why would you want to remove the jobs people enjoy and are passionate about just for the sake of it?
If they are passionate about their craft for the sake of it they will keep doing it, if they are doing it as a job then like with any other job market when new technologies or trends arrive they will have to adapt.
To put it in perspective with an analogy: It’s an absurd notion for instance that new programming languages should be banned not for their quality but simply because not every developer will learn them, and it’s an absurd notion that someone who loves programming in C for the sake of it cannot do so just because Java exists.
Having DAWs did not make it illegal to mess around with an old rompler and a step sequencer for the sake of it, nor did orchestra plugins eliminate violins, but market demands orchestral music done quicker, you either do this or don’t.
If it wasn’t for the horrible system we live in
This would be the case for every system that still has some market demands, even something like anarcho-communist cooperative based market economics would favour technological advancement and efficiency every time and some jobs would simply not be in demand any more.
There is simply no economic system that makes any sense where someone would need to hire an orchestra for every sting on kitchen nightmares instead of using a VST or sample library or now in the not too distant future - generating one.
I fully agree that we need to change the system to ensure when these technological advancements happen that people don’t end up on the street.
However, I’m sure most would agree that even though it was not fair to e.g. human computers, the move to electronic calculators is a net positive for society.
Similarly endlessly distributable digital copies of books etc. democratized media to a massive degree even if it put libraries at risk.
but it does not make life easier,
It definitely does make life easier for many artists, for instance you can upscale old media or restore media where the original was lost to time, game devs can use AI-generated assets for background stuff like adding nigh-infinite variety to textures that would be impractical for an indie dev to do or a sole dev can compensate for whatever skills they lack manually etc.
it does not get us better things
I think with regards to quality it’s completely value neutral, I’ve seen plenty of dogshit AI art, but also some really good unique stuff. I think it just follows Sturgeon’s Law.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
My experience is simply the polar opposite of yours.
Most artists I’ve known are extremely upper class, at the very least they come from very privileged backgrounds, and usually had the safety net required to take gap years for unpaid apprenticeships or to start bands, have capital to invest and can afford to lose it, can live with parents and rely on them financially waiting for publishing deals or comissions money or adrev etc etc.
Come to think of it IRL I actually have never heard of a “working class” artist, other than in the strict Marxist sense in that they’re not an owner class.
Even if they work a low paying or shitty job part-time they almost always have very high QoL due to those privileged backgrounds. One guy who went into the arts I know has a day job that paid half mine out of the gate, but he had way more disposable cash because his parents paid his rent and bills.
I’m not saying that arts are just a passtime of the rich mind you, (though I do think the rabidly anti-ai types have a “fuck you got mine” streak) I think it’s survivorship bias ultimately, those who can be full-time or even decently part-time professional artists in some capacity are the ones who have privilege.
Meanwhile 99.9% of people in CompSci were the hustler-grindset type working folks trying to escape poverty or otherwise move up the ladder, either real career chasers who are all about networking or grifters/scammers/shady characters you’d see betting on horses and hanging out in money laundering candy/barbershops.
Most people had at least 1 job just to afford rent, many had 2 (uni is pretty much free here in the UK).
The only rich people were drug dealers in blacked out BMWs and Chinese immigrants with Rolexes and extremely strong spice vapes and no knowledge of English.
The remaining 0.1% were genuinely gifted kids who pursued PhDs and just nerds (me) and they were all usually not super well off locals or they were immigrants from shithole countries of families who could afford to send their kids overseas and not much else, where they prolly didn’t need to work semester time but they couldn’t fuck around either (also me).
Idk about Silicon Valley, I’m not American nor have been, from what I’ve seen people who talk about the “bay area” on Mastodon are either insufferable cunts or some kind of weird internet people/hacking savants/furries though.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
So do you have a rebuttal or? Because this is the way I see it, using music because it’s what I know more:
I get an idea in my head for a melody or piece of music -> I either lay it out on an instrument or in a DAW piano roll or on paper -> I tweak and refine and add/remove elements -> I export the file and upload to a website.
The actual creative spark is the first step, the rest is a matter of speaking the language and skills at using the tools of choice to convey ideas clearly. Both are skills in and of themselves but one is about technique, the other is about a well-trained imagination and analytical mindset.
Prompts in that case are just another language like notes and scales. Then you add onto that LoRAs, controlnets, refiner models, custom refines of existing models, embeddings, weights, sampling steps, classifier-free guidance scale, and it’s quite a lot to actually learn and use effectively.
I don’t see how it’s any less creative whatsoever. Less skilled? Sure, absolutely, it can be. No denying there.
Maybe you could say it’s also less intentional, but plenty of art has unintentional elements which doesn’t make it any less creative.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
Why don’t they then? And why do they now that AI is around?
Almost as if there’s a barrier to entry there for most people that’s been removed.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
But the prompt is the creative aspect. It’s always the idea, and the rest is convention and form. And lol, modern poor aren’t going to have access to charcoal, paper, tine or a deathbed, but they’re going to have a smartphone, hence it does indeed make creative expression more accessible.
I’d never have even tried music if I couldn’t pirate a DAW, plugins etc etc.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
They absolutely do all those things though? Like render farms consume fucktons of electricity and they absolutely rely on theft because every artist uses references not to mention asset packs etc. and you are absolutely posing as an expert on the subject feeding people misinformation without any AI (probably). I’m sure someone editing film would consider your optimised premiere stream deck a device for someone who’s “stopped thinking” as well, without any AI at all.
- Comment on Why do AI bros and other staunch AI defenders seem happy about the potential of killing off the creative industries? 1 week ago:
Eh, I make my own music and somewhat play guitar, I don’t even use samples because it feels personally a bit like cheating myself out of the most challenging and interesting part, though ofc plenty way more talented and successful musicians sample all the way, so it’s just a personal stance.
I’d say actually it’s that experience, just making art as self-expression that has thoroughly inoculated me against artbro talking points.
I’m not against creative industries, nor am I pro corpos, but AI is just a tool and now that anybody can make images, the drawing people seethe, sorry not sorry, I’d rather make creativity more accessible than please egos of a select few rich kid narcissists.
- Comment on I have a good feeling about this one. 2 weeks ago:
Oof man. I’m so sorry, that’s rough.
I’ve had to deal with similar things on a lesser degree in 2018, wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but what you’ve gone through does sound like genuine hell, and you’re one hell of a soldier for making it through, not to mention being able to talk about it like this to strangers on the internet, you’re amazing.
I hope you can get to a better place one day and that you have a good support network, this is heavy shit, a burden shared is a burden halved and all that. Hope 2025 gives you a break. Good luck!
- Comment on I have a good feeling about this one. 2 weeks ago:
No it’s objectively true :)
- Comment on I have a good feeling about this one. 2 weeks ago:
2015 - 2016 was rough… 2017 was pretty good, 2018-2019 were pretty awful especially the latter. 2020 was pretty decent but 2021 was better. 2022 was not good, 2023 was better, and 2024 was all around great but with some dark spots.
- Comment on Putin's 'sovereign' gaming console projects detailed, found lacking 2 weeks ago:
I mean, yeah? If you generalized enough lots of things can be said to not be materially different, and that’s not invalid, but this state has fundamentally different causes and elements and therefore can’t be lumped together, lest we make the mistake of ignoring the lessons of history.
- Comment on Putin's 'sovereign' gaming console projects detailed, found lacking 3 weeks ago:
Putin and the oligarchs were handed all the power they have now by people who overthrew the communist government of the RSFSR, not by the communists at all.
It’s present failure stems from the extreme poverty caused primarily by mass sell-off of government institutions and rapid privatisation, otherwise known as shock therapy.
Don’t get me wrong, the USSR was shit in many ways and did incredibly awful things in eastern europe, but to ignore the fact that present Russia is a fascist oligarchy and instead call it communism is not only ignorant of history, but it aids Putin sympathisers and fascists in the west, i.e. Musk, AfD, etc.