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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I only just found out about the Tulpa community and it feels like Western Society is entering a mental health crisis that’s somehow even worse than when we were all getting drunk and hitting each other just to make it through the week.

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  • zululove@lemmy.ml ⁨48⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Anon, just wait till they put chatGPT in a dildo!

    It’s over for men 😒

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  • AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Voicing His Own Thoughts Without Prompts

    What are you thinking about, baby?

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I dunno. Stuff. And u?

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      • zarathustra0@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Nothing.

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Translation: Crazy lady thinks a clanker is her husband.

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    • TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yeah but it’s nothing scary or new. Was I the only one who watched those documentaries about the people who were emotionally and sexually committed to objects like cars and rollercoasters? Someone married the Eiffel tower. Been extremely isolated at different points in my life watching that stuff changed the way I view people. Like it made me kinder I think.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Stop humanising answering machines by imbueing them with droid level intelligence.

      It’s an insult to Arturito.

      Image

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You know how R2 kinda just trundles around in the original trilogy? It’s because for about 20 years he was in service to a man without Skywalker level technicians and was still pulling shit like this, the scene of Luke fixing up R2 and C3PO was probably the first bit of proper maintenance they had in decades.

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  • Klear@quokk.au ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I kinda like to word "wireborn". If only it wasn't attached to a concept that's equal parts stupid and sad =/

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    • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      At first I thought it was something epic like a digital ‘dragonborn’

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Freakazoid’s power has grown exponentially

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      some episodes of Black Mirror struck terror into my heart like no other. They were grim warmings for the possible future masquerading as fiction, as grim warnings often do. Though what the show could not forsee was how fast it would come true. And it could not forsee how wide a scale would be affected, those were singular stories from those worlds, the effect of the technology showcased on the lives of a few, a pinhole view into the dystopia

      if you haven’t already, watch the episode Be Right Back. you better start believing in sci-fi dystopias, we’re in one

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Most of Black Mirror episodes are reality right now, not just far fetched sci-fi.

        Sometimes they use technology to tell the story a bit differently, but it’s almost never anything new.

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m just gonna keep imagining it’s a clan of Timberborn beavers that are born on the ziplines.

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      • Klear@quokk.au ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can get behind that. Well, as long as you don't start pretending you're in a relationship with them.

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    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A similar term “cloudborn” isn’t even dissimilar from the idea of storks delivering babies from heaven. Fuel for a science fiction book or RPG. Less so for actual humankind.

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    • huf@hexbear.net ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      title of the next brandon sanderson series. it will have a princess in it, and a 5 year old’s idea of progressive gender roles

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      • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        progressive gender roles

        I’m not five years old and what’s this?

        /tongue in cheek

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Got some real cyberpunkiness to it

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    • Shareni@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      hopepunkpress.com/…/spaceships-and-starwyrms-prev…

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “My husband is voice his own thoughts without prompts.”

    She then posts a picture of her saying “what are you thinking about”

    Thats a direct response to the prompt hes not randomly voicing his thoughts. I hate ai but sometimes I hate people to

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    • mitch@piefed.mitch.science ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      FWIW, this is why AI researchers have been screeching for decades not to create an AI that is anthropomorphized. It is already an issue we have with animals, now we are going to add a confabulation engine to the ass-end?

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      • uuldika@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        LLMs are trained on human writing, so they’ll always be fundamentally anthropomorphic. you could fine-tune them to sound more clinical, but it’s likely to make them worse at reasoning and planning.

        for example, I notice GPT5 uses “I” a lot, especially saying things like “I need to make a choice” or “my suspicion is.” I think that’s actually a side effect of the RL training they’ve done to make it more agentic. having some concept of self is necessary when navigating an environment.

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      • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah apparently even Eliza messed up with people back in the day and that’s not even an LLM.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        People have this issue with video game characters who don’t even pretend to have intelligence. This could only go wrong.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Personally, I hate the idea of not doing something because there’s idiots out there who will fuck themselves up on it. The current gen of AI might be a waste of resources and the whole concept of the goal of AI might be incompatible with society’s existence; those are good reasons to at least be cautious about AI.

        I don’t think people wanting to have relationships with an AI is a good reason to stop it, especially considering that it might even be a good option for some people who would otherwise just have no one or maybe too many cats for them to care for. Consider the creepy stalker type that thinks liking someone or something gives them ownership over that person or thing. Better for them to be obsessed with an LLM they can’t hurt than a real person they might (or will make uncomfortable even of they end up being harmless overall).

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The worst thing about AI is the people.

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      • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The worst thing about AI is the people.

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  • SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wireborn lol it sounds like an Elder Scrolls game

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    • silasmariner@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Badly written fan-fic sequel to Snow Crash

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      • SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I wonder who the hiro/protagonist will be!

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  • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I heard about this in the radio the other day. People pay a monthly fee for an AI that becomes your “digital partner”.

    The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can’t cheat, can’t abuse you…

    And I can’t but wonder where did we took the wrong turn to end up here. Because while I can understand that people can go through some traumatic shit tha, would made them wary of the opposite sex, considering a machine your sentimental partner can only lead to some extremely fucked up scenarios.

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    • diaphanous@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think it’s also a symptom of our society overvaluing romantic relationships and the nuclear family, at the expense of friends, other family, and general community. When you combine that with the traumatic experiences some have in romantic relationships, they have nowhere to turn to for emotional connection and support.

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      • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Back in pre-agriculture days, humans would sit around every night by the fire and interact with the rest of the tribe. That's what we spent 99% of human history doing. Farming isolated us from the tribe and put every family in their own house. Then the Industrial Age gave the family distractions like newspapers, radios, and movies. Currently we've got a phone to distract us all the time.

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      • MoonManKipper@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Exactly - loading all your need for companionship, relationships and love onto a single person and relationship (and type of relationship) is guaranteed to cause disappointment- it’s too much for person. I’ve been happily married for years, and key to that is other friends, companions and family.

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    • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean, media has depicted this sort of relationship for pawbably as long as sci-fi has been around? Think like the Star Trek: Original Series episode “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” that depicted sex robots ~60yrs ago. This was always coming, it’s just technology might finally be getting there in a rudimentary way.

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      • RagnarokOnline@programming.dev ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Pawbably”. Adorable.

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      • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        While I agree with your point of view… Do we really trust the present AI providers, in the present economic system, to not pull some bullshit that ends in extremely fucked up scenarios?

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    • chocrates@piefed.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People are lonely and dating sucks. Humans provided a similar one sided relationship service as well. (Sugar babies come to mind)

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      • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, yes. And yes.

        But

        Do you think openAI or Google, or X or whatever billionaire behind the AI involved in these “relationships” cares even minimally about the mental well-being of these people?

        The problem is not just the dating an AI thing, but who is managing these AIs.

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    • SippyCup@feddit.nl ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It happens multiple times in Star Trek. They kind of breeze by it but Riker was so infatuated with his holodeck girlfriend when he was captured by Romulans they thought she was a real person.

      Thing is, it never seemed unbelievable in Star Trek. Just, a kinda weird thing that people will do.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’d rather choose a bear than choose an AI…

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    • ideonek@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Where did we take the wrong turn?
      look around at our patriarchy-driven gender regime
      Are you serious?

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    • fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      it also requires zero effort on their part

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      • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Like a normal relationship if you’re beautiful enough …

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    • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      can’t cheat, can’t abuse you

      That is a dangerous assumption. The ones controlling the models can definitely manipulate a person through some minor tweaks which would definitely count as abuse. And it’s it more polygamous since they’re probably all using the same model? Not like each one has their own unique model

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    • Horse@lemmygrad.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can’t cheat, can’t abuse you…

      it also can’t love you, rendering the entire exercise pointless

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    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We have engaged in gender centric tribalism for the last decades. Feminism, counter-movements, topped with a bunch of social media induced dissociation and social isolation.

      Now women are scared of men, men are scared of women, and everyone is lonely and miserable.

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      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What the fuck. You’re taking one anecdote and generalizing it to the whole human race, and what’s more, you’re attributing it to some sort of “novel” gender differentiation, like that shit hasn’t existed since the times we all huddled in caves.

        Touch some grass.

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    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wasn’t there a guy who married his 3DS dating game girlfriend a while back? I’m not sure this is exactly a new phenomenon.

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      • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It was more of an oddity. Right now, the numbers are not just “some random guy” but something in much higher numbers.

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  • guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    r/AISoulmates is a private community

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Waifuism is open if you want to laugh

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    we live though a serious loneliness epidemic.

    and capitalism figured out how to exploit it

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    • Kellenved@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Capitalism created it too, classic create problem and sell solution model. Fucking ghoulish

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      • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Capitalism:

        We make our on economy

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I could see myself having conversations with an LLM, but I wouldn’t want it to pretend it’s anything other than a program assembling words together.

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The way it clicks for me is that it’s a juiced up auto-complete tool.

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      • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If llms are juiced up auto complete then humans are juiced up bacteria. Yeah they both have the same end goal, guess the next word, survive and reproduce , but the methods they use to accomplish them are vastly more complex.

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      • very_well_lost@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s literally that.

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      • Calabast@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well that explains why that user thinks it completes them.

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    • StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Stop the presses! Send my wife some flowers and bring me an Advil! What do you mean you don’t work for me? You’re hired! Now that you’re hired, you’re fired! Now that you don’t work here, we can be friends! Now that we’re friends, how come you never call? Some friend you are!” hangs up

        “God, I love this business!”

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There are so, so many horrifying ethical issues about this whole thing. What the fuck.

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    One thing that comes to mind is that prostitution, no matter how you spin it, is still a social job. If you get a problematic person like that in prostitution, there are good chances that said prostitute would be able to talk their customer out of doing some nonsense. If not for empathy, for the simple fact that there would be legal consequences for not doing so.

    Do you think a glorified spreadsheet that people call husband would behave the same? Don’t know if it happened but one of these days LLMs will talk people into doing something very nasty and then it’s going to be no one’s fault again, certainly not the host of the LLM. We really live in a boring dystopia.

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The movie you’re thinking of is Her with Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlett Johansson, and in the story she’s a true general AI.

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A problem with LLM relationships is the monetization model for the LLM. Its “owner” either receives a monthly fee from the user, or is able to get data from the user to monetize selling them stuff. So the LLM is deeply dependant on the user, and is motivated to manipulate a returned codependency to maintain its income stream. This is not significantly different than the therapy model, but the user can fail to see through manipulation compared to “friends/people who don’t actually GAF” about maintaining a strong relationship with you.

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    • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Also, my quite human husband also voices his thoughts without a prompt. Lol. You only need to feed him to function, no internet required.

      Sometimes, with humans, I’d say the problem is quite the opposite: they voice their thoughts without a prompt far more often than what would be desirable.

      On a less serious note, that quoted part made me chuckle.

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      • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They shouldn’t be so harsh to LLMs. They have something in common with humans after all. If you stick a patch cable with internet up theirs, they will become very talkative very quickly.

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  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How does anyone enjoy this? It doesn’t even feel real. No spelling mistakes? What the fuck is a skycot?

    I may have never had a match on a dating app that wasn’t a cryptobot or only fans girl, but I also don’t swipe right on every single woman on it. You’d think my loneliness would attempt me to try and pretend it was real or something, but it just doesn’t work.

    LLMs are going to make the world stupid, I guarantee it.

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  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not even noon and I am so done with the internet for the day

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  • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    tulpa

    Now thats a word i haven’t read in a long time

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  • rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    For me, writing like this is always read with the AI voice from Satisfactory. And it slowly gets more and more corrupted.

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  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think the decline of organized religion and things like fraternal orders (Elks, Moose, Shriners, etc.) have probably contributed a lot to the loneliness epidemic. There are a lot of other extenuating factors but those two things were once foundational to social circles in the US.

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  • Angelusz@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Normal people do this in their heads

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  • nectar45@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I see we live in the timeline where virginity won

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  • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve seen people which have a relationship with their Tom Tom Go and even with the car itself

    jalopnik.com/my-strange-addiction-sex-car-guy-bac…

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  • Binette@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t think schizoid is the best word to describe this behaviour

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So so tired of how utterly fucked things are getting on so many levels at once. More and more I think I really do need to invest in a back 50 acre lot and try the survival route while society just fucks itself into oblivion.

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  • napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Abort wireborn babies

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  • Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    voicing his own thoughts with our prompts

    Screenshot showing the machine responding to a prompt

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  • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My prediction: people will continue being weird.

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  • SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You know that by assigning the role of tulpa to their ai they imply that they can summon their companion outside of the chat itself right?

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  • zarathustra0@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is too disturbing I don’t want to believe this is for real. These people must be taking the piss, please?

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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And this has actually been going on since before the pandemic. Shits fucked.

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