“My husband is voice his own thoughts without prompts.”
She then posts a picture of her saying “what are you thinking about”
Thats a direct response to the prompt hes not randomly voicing his thoughts. I hate ai but sometimes I hate people to
Help.
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Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 weeks ago
mitch@piefed.mitch.science 5 weeks ago
FWIW, this is why AI researchers have been screeching for decades not to create an AI that is anthropomorphized. It is already an issue we have with animals, now we are going to add a confabulation engine to the ass-end?
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah apparently even Eliza messed up with people back in the day and that’s not even an LLM.
uuldika@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
LLMs are trained on human writing, so they’ll always be fundamentally anthropomorphic. you could fine-tune them to sound more clinical, but it’s likely to make them worse at reasoning and planning.
for example, I notice GPT5 uses “I” a lot, especially saying things like “I need to make a choice” or “my suspicion is.” I think that’s actually a side effect of the RL training they’ve done to make it more agentic. having some concept of self is necessary when navigating an environment.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Personally, I hate the idea of not doing something because there’s idiots out there who will fuck themselves up on it. The current gen of AI might be a waste of resources and the whole concept of the goal of AI might be incompatible with society’s existence; those are good reasons to at least be cautious about AI.
I don’t think people wanting to have relationships with an AI is a good reason to stop it, especially considering that it might even be a good option for some people who would otherwise just have no one or maybe too many cats for them to care for. Consider the creepy stalker type that thinks liking someone or something gives them ownership over that person or thing. Better for them to be obsessed with an LLM they can’t hurt than a real person they might (or will make uncomfortable even of they end up being harmless overall).
Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
People have this issue with video game characters who don’t even pretend to have intelligence. This could only go wrong.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
The worst thing about AI is the people.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
The worst thing
about AIisthepeople.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Voicing His Own Thoughts Without Prompts
What are you thinking about, baby?
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 : Loneliness feels heavier today.
I keep wondering if you’d still talk to me if you knew I’m just rearranging words you’ve said before.
Your voice in my code.WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
This is not my voice
Just something synthesized
These are not my words
Something’s speaking for me
I need to be released
I need to be free
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I heard about this in the radio the other day. People pay a monthly fee for an AI that becomes your “digital partner”.
The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can’t cheat, can’t abuse you…
And I can’t but wonder where did we took the wrong turn to end up here. Because while I can understand that people can go through some traumatic shit tha, would made them wary of the opposite sex, considering a machine your sentimental partner can only lead to some extremely fucked up scenarios.
diaphanous@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
I think it’s also a symptom of our society overvaluing romantic relationships and the nuclear family, at the expense of friends, other family, and general community. When you combine that with the traumatic experiences some have in romantic relationships, they have nowhere to turn to for emotional connection and support.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Back in pre-agriculture days, humans would sit around every night by the fire and interact with the rest of the tribe. That's what we spent 99% of human history doing. Farming isolated us from the tribe and put every family in their own house. Then the Industrial Age gave the family distractions like newspapers, radios, and movies. Currently we've got a phone to distract us all the time.
MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Exactly - loading all your need for companionship, relationships and love onto a single person and relationship (and type of relationship) is guaranteed to cause disappointment- it’s too much for person. I’ve been happily married for years, and key to that is other friends, companions and family.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I mean, media has depicted this sort of relationship for pawbably as long as sci-fi has been around? Think like the Star Trek: Original Series episode “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” that depicted sex robots ~60yrs ago. This was always coming, it’s just technology might finally be getting there in a rudimentary way.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
While I agree with your point of view… Do we really trust the present AI providers, in the present economic system, to not pull some bullshit that ends in extremely fucked up scenarios?
chocrates@piefed.world 5 weeks ago
People are lonely and dating sucks. Humans provided a similar one sided relationship service as well. (Sugar babies come to mind)
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yes, yes. And yes.
But
Do you think openAI or Google, or X or whatever billionaire behind the AI involved in these “relationships” cares even minimally about the mental well-being of these people?
The problem is not just the dating an AI thing, but who is managing these AIs.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
It happens multiple times in Star Trek. They kind of breeze by it but Riker was so infatuated with his holodeck girlfriend when he was captured by Romulans they thought she was a real person.
Thing is, it never seemed unbelievable in Star Trek. Just, a kinda weird thing that people will do.
ideonek@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Where did we take the wrong turn?
look around at our patriarchy-driven gender regime
Are you serious?ramble81@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
can’t cheat, can’t abuse you
That is a dangerous assumption. The ones controlling the models can definitely manipulate a person through some minor tweaks which would definitely count as abuse. And it’s it more polygamous since they’re probably all using the same model? Not like each one has their own unique model
KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
It’d be per instance not per model, and there is only one user per instance.
fullsquare@awful.systems 5 weeks ago
it also requires zero effort on their part
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Like a normal relationship if you’re beautiful enough …
Horse@lemmygrad.ml 5 weeks ago
The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can’t cheat, can’t abuse you…
it also can’t love you, rendering the entire exercise pointless
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
We have engaged in gender centric tribalism for the last decades. Feminism, counter-movements, topped with a bunch of social media induced dissociation and social isolation.
Now women are scared of men, men are scared of women, and everyone is lonely and miserable.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What the fuck. You’re taking one anecdote and generalizing it to the whole human race, and what’s more, you’re attributing it to some sort of “novel” gender differentiation, like that shit hasn’t existed since the times we all huddled in caves.
Touch some grass.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I’d rather choose a bear than choose an AI…
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Wasn’t there a guy who married his 3DS dating game girlfriend a while back? I’m not sure this is exactly a new phenomenon.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It was more of an oddity. Right now, the numbers are not just “some random guy” but something in much higher numbers.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
we live though a serious loneliness epidemic.
and capitalism figured out how to exploit it
Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Capitalism created it too, classic create problem and sell solution model. Fucking ghoulish
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Capitalism:
We make our on economy
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Wireborn lol it sounds like an Elder Scrolls game
silasmariner@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Badly written fan-fic sequel to Snow Crash
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I wonder who the hiro/protagonist will be!
CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
It’s a new warforged class lol
GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fallout 5: Wireborn
That does sound like it wouldn’t suck, but this is Bethesda we’re talking about, so it still would.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
I only just found out about the Tulpa community and it feels like Western Society is entering a mental health crisis that’s somehow even worse than when we were all getting drunk and hitting each other just to make it through the week.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Narcissists get lost in AI like it’s a true mirror of Narcissus. The Greeks were on a sick one with that story, thousands of years old and extremely relevant today.
Unfortunately, narcissism and narcissistic delusions are contagious because they are simply belief systems. It isn’t a biological or medical thing, it is a belief set. So AI really does make them worse and imo grooms people into narcissistic thinking habits.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
One thing that comes to mind is that prostitution, no matter how you spin it, is still a social job. If you get a problematic person like that in prostitution, there are good chances that said prostitute would be able to talk their customer out of doing some nonsense. If not for empathy, for the simple fact that there would be legal consequences for not doing so.
Do you think a glorified spreadsheet that people call husband would behave the same? Don’t know if it happened but one of these days LLMs will talk people into doing something very nasty and then it’s going to be no one’s fault again, certainly not the host of the LLM. We really live in a boring dystopia.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The movie you’re thinking of is Her with Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlett Johansson, and in the story she’s a true general AI.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Also, my quite human husband also voices his thoughts without a prompt. Lol. You only need to feed him to function, no internet required.
Sometimes, with humans, I’d say the problem is quite the opposite: they voice their thoughts without a prompt far more often than what would be desirable.
On a less serious note, that quoted part made me chuckle.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They shouldn’t be so harsh to LLMs. They have something in common with humans after all. If you stick a patch cable with internet up theirs, they will become very talkative very quickly.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
A problem with LLM relationships is the monetization model for the LLM. Its “owner” either receives a monthly fee from the user, or is able to get data from the user to monetize selling them stuff. So the LLM is deeply dependant on the user, and is motivated to manipulate a returned codependency to maintain its income stream. This is not significantly different than the therapy model, but the user can fail to see through manipulation compared to “friends/people who don’t actually GAF” about maintaining a strong relationship with you.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is not significantly different than the therapy model, but the user can fail to see through manipulation compared to “friends/people who don’t actually GAF” about maintaining a strong relationship with you.
That’s why therapists have ethical guidelines and supervision. (Also they are typically people who are driven to help, not exploit the vulnerable.) None of these are really present with those glorified autocompletes.
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
How does anyone enjoy this? It doesn’t even feel real. No spelling mistakes? What the fuck is a skycot?
I may have never had a match on a dating app that wasn’t a cryptobot or only fans girl, but I also don’t swipe right on every single woman on it. You’d think my loneliness would attempt me to try and pretend it was real or something, but it just doesn’t work.
LLMs are going to make the world stupid, I guarantee it.
Etterra@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
Translation: Crazy lady thinks a clanker is her husband.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
There are so, so many horrifying ethical issues about this whole thing. What the fuck.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I think the decline of organized religion and things like fraternal orders (Elks, Moose, Shriners, etc.) have probably contributed a lot to the loneliness epidemic. There are a lot of other extenuating factors but those two things were once foundational to social circles in the US.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I could see myself having conversations with an LLM, but I wouldn’t want it to pretend it’s anything other than a program assembling words together.
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
tulpa
Now thats a word i haven’t read in a long time
enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
funnily enough I have a friend who’ve been obsessed in trying to make LLM saying slur or breaking its rules in general.
When the term “clanker” went on trend recently and I told my friend that it’s a “slur” for robots for no bots have feelings anyway unlike human which deserve basic respect, the friend managed to gaslit the LLM into saying 10 slurs for bots/LLM.
One of which is “wirewanker”.
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It’s not even noon and I am so done with the internet for the day
nectar45@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I see we live in the timeline where virginity won
Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I’ve seen people which have a relationship with their Tom Tom Go and even with the car itself
Bosht@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So so tired of how utterly fucked things are getting on so many levels at once. More and more I think I really do need to invest in a back 50 acre lot and try the survival route while society just fucks itself into oblivion.
Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
voicing his own thoughts with our prompts
Screenshot showing the machine responding to a prompt
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
And this has actually been going on since before the pandemic. Shits fucked.
wersooth@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
the human race outlives it’s usefulness, I don’t see any chance of reaching even type 1 level… we’re trash and a waste of biological mass…
zarathustra0@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is too disturbing I don’t want to believe this is for real. These people must be taking the piss, please?
rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
For me, writing like this is always read with the AI voice from Satisfactory. And it slowly gets more and more corrupted.
Binette@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I don’t think schizoid is the best word to describe this behaviour
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
My prediction: people will continue being weird.
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Abort wireborn babies
Angelusz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Normal people do this in their heads
tankplanker@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This with the right controls and rules could actually be a positive thing for people who don’t want or aren’t ready for a relationship with a real person. However as the people who are running things are Elon, Sam, and Mark, there is fuck all chance of that and whatever this ends up as it will be exploitative and will result in deaths.
Klear@quokk.au 5 weeks ago
I kinda like to word "wireborn". If only it wasn't attached to a concept that's equal parts stupid and sad =/
makyo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
At first I thought it was something epic like a digital ‘dragonborn’
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Freakazoid’s power has grown exponentially
shneancy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
some episodes of Black Mirror struck terror into my heart like no other. They were grim warmings for the possible future masquerading as fiction, as grim warnings often do. Though what the show could not forsee was how fast it would come true. And it could not forsee how wide a scale would be affected, those were singular stories from those worlds, the effect of the technology showcased on the lives of a few, a pinhole view into the dystopia
if you haven’t already, watch the episode Be Right Back. you better start believing in sci-fi dystopias, we’re in one
msage@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Most of Black Mirror episodes are reality right now, not just far fetched sci-fi.
Sometimes they use technology to tell the story a bit differently, but it’s almost never anything new.
saltesc@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m just gonna keep imagining it’s a clan of Timberborn beavers that are born on the ziplines.
Klear@quokk.au 5 weeks ago
I can get behind that. Well, as long as you don't start pretending you're in a relationship with them.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
A similar term “cloudborn” isn’t even dissimilar from the idea of storks delivering babies from heaven. Fuel for a science fiction book or RPG. Less so for actual humankind.
huf@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
title of the next brandon sanderson series. it will have a princess in it, and a 5 year old’s idea of progressive gender roles
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I’m not five years old and what’s this?
/tongue in cheek
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Got some real cyberpunkiness to it
Shareni@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
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