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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  the above article

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  no, the word torture has a meaning independent of the laws of the day. it’s been fairly stable for a long time.

  also, why do they need to create “coercive techniques” (methods of torture)?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  and yet britain kept on doing torture. strange how that works, eh

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  you cannot be this dense. it was torture. it’s still torture. laws dont define reality.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  torture, what part of this is difficult for you? even the article calls it torture.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  presentism, as if people werent aware that it was torture until the law changed, lol

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  the article is about instances of torture and how their legal category has changed in the torturer country

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  it’s about torture, not what the torturer UK decides is torture.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  they were designed to slip below the legal definition of torture, which is not what anyone is talking about except you, in your desperate attempt to shift blame away from the torturers.

  because the actual meaning of the word is something like this: The infliction of severe pain or anguish, especially as an interrogation technique or punishment; (usually in the plural) a technique, method, or device which is designed to inflict such anguish.

  note how there’s no reference to the UN or the laws of the UK.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  because i know what the word torture means.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  oh that makes it so much better, that they were torture techniques deliberately and cold-bloodedly developed by the torturers to slip through a legal loophole

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  yes.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  and it was torture before that. it would’ve been torture if the romans had done it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  you’re still doing it. nobody but you is talking about the legality, can you get that through your head?

  this is what you’re calling not torture:

  Declassified has previously found that while one member of the Shihuh tribe was being questioned, he refused to give up his ceremonial dagger and was shot in the arm, shoulder, and neck.

  and this:

  They were subjected to now banned methods of torture which involve sensory deprivation, such as completely covering someone’s head with a sack and bombarding them with noise.

  and this:

  They did this by forcing the Shihuh detainees into unnatural stress positions against walls, hooding their faces and subjected them to an “electronic noise machine” – the first use of its kind.

  and this:

  The unit’s methods were so extreme that a report written by military psychiatrists warned interrogation subjects could suffer “hysterical” dissociations, terror, delusions and suicidal ideation – even in training scenarios.

  do you think the torturers didnt know that it was wrong to torture? that they needed the courts to tell them that torture is wrong? do you think the state which then promoted these torturers and put them in charge of more torture was unaware of the torture?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  nuance is when you refuse to even recognise torture because the torturers hadnt yet decided to call it torture.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  by the legal experts of the UK. who are irrelevant for determining what is torture in reality. this is you defending torture.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  yes you are, and now you’re lying about it too

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  this is not a court of law. we’re capable of recognising torture without your precious courts defining it for us.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  oh wow, you’re going with the “enhanced interrogation” bullshit? how’s it feel to be a torture defender?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  autism makes you rush to defend past torture done by the UK? weird.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  why are you stuck on the current illegality of this? you seem to think it’s not right to condemn their actions because they were legal at the time. extremely weird take.

  but tell me, was it legal back then to do a coup and install a dictator and annex a bit of land?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Enquiring minds would like to know!⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  A sirályok, a sirályok rájuk gondolni se jó
  Akkor basznak a fedélzeten mikor süllyed a hajó

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Jeremy Clarkson shares worrying Diddly Squat update after UK heatwave⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  how much of the land in the UK is farmed by the common farmer, and how much is enormous corporate latifundiums?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Jeremy Clarkson shares worrying Diddly Squat update after UK heatwave⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  farming will have to drastically change because of soil exhaustion and droughts due to climate change and centuries of systematic mismanagement of the land. a competent state could lead the way and ease the transition, but here we are. it’s going to be terrible.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Jeremy Clarkson shares worrying Diddly Squat update after UK heatwave⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  he should go back to punching piers morgan

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Organic eggs have worse impact on climate than eggs from caged chickens⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  i’ve often wondered, how much meat did medieval peasants really eat and was that level of meat eating sustainable, or was that already destroying everything around itself?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨And still I see no changes⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  so what is the misrepresentation? the bits you quoted show exactly how this fucker is lying through his teeth.

  this is ridiculous:

  We very much welcome the MoU reached in June between the US and Iran and the US condemns in the strongest terms the unjustified attacks by Iran since then on shipping and indeed on our Gulf partners.

  the US and israel started this shit, they kept hitting iran while the supposed MoU was in effect, what the fuck is this fascist piece of shit talking about unjustified attacks by iran for?

  this is absurd too, a deliberate falsification of history:

  as they defend themselves against Russia’s unprovoked and premeditated aggression.

  is there some part that’s missing where he condemns the US and israel for their genocidal aggression? no? is the UK gonna stop the US from using its bases to bomb iran? so what’s the misrepresentation?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨From Buckingham Palace:⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  being constantly humiliated by a geriatric thief is how the english experience dignity

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨James Bond should stay white and male, says casting chief⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  james bond should stay white and male but he should have an existential crisis where he realizes who he’s been working for all along, becomes a depressed alcoholic, ends up embracing shia islam, travels to iran and joins the fight on the side of iran.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Keir Starmer says some road and energy projects will be scrapped to pay for £15bn defence plan⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  the US doesnt need to invade europe, the US has troops stationed all over europe. US security agencies are elbow deep in european states. the US blew up nordstream to sabotage europe. the US did a coup in ukraine to get the current war going.

  but sure.