Wait bottom mathematican is using j=√-1 instead of i and not the engineer? Because I’m EE gang, and all my homies use j.
UwU brat mathematician behavior
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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
GandalfTheDumb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That part also got me really confused. All the mathematicans I know use i while engineers use i or j depending on the kind of engineer. I’ve never seen a Pikachu engineer using anything other than j.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Pikachu engineer
That’s a fucking favorite now. Keeping that in my back pocket.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
OPs boyfriend is obviously an i engineer and hates j engineers. No one can stay angry at mathematicians - engineers on the other hand…
wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
The fun starts when you study quaternions
i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = −1
bisby@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I agree. Clearly i is current. What is this i=√-1 nonsense.
grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
[Lapsed] mechanical engineering gang checking in. I was also surprised. Though, tbh, I think it came down to personal preference of the professor more than field-wide consensus.
affiliate@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
a real mathematician would use
(0, 1)
instead ofi
_stranger_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sado-mathochist
Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well done, truly
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Thado-mathocist. The real chad all along.
It makes me wonder if somewhere out there in a multiverse, a community of lisping incels all collectively draw the chad wojak as as an aramaic looking dude.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
serenissi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
no, d…do you have a plan?
Randelung@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Something something distance calls for norm, not just squares.
||i||² + ||1||² = 2
bitcrafter@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Imagining your death.
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This one made me laugh almost as much as the OP. Thank you!
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
NGL, this is hot.
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m a mechanical engineering student with a math minor and I’m a switch so yeah, I’d take either side of this
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
operative?
sartalon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As an EE, I used both. Def not a mathematician though. Fuck that, I just plug variables into programs now.
the_tab_key@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have both mechanical and electrical backgrounds. MEs like I, EEs prefer j
SanicHegehog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
imaJinary
TIL engineers can’t spell for shit.
zeca@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
The associativity thing also doesnt make sense.
Unlearned9545@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Engineer here: mostly use i, but have seen j used plenty. First time I saw j used was by a maths professor.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Interesting I never saw j from a maths person. Friends (from a decade ago!) in electronics eng dep said they use j because i was reserved for current.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Cannot confirm, we always used i.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Me, a language/arts person: “Huh?”
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Web dev here. “Huh?”
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Webdev not knowing anything about computer science (and thus mathematics)? I am shocked. Shocked!
lena@gregtech.eu 3 weeks ago
Fullstack dev here. “Huh?”
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Medical here. “Huh?”
nfamwap@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Moron here. “Huh?”
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
This is the kind of brat I can get behind. 😏
_g_be@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
😏
Almacca@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I have no idea what they’re talking about, but I do love a happy ending.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
As a physicist I can’t understand why would anyone complain about a +jb or $\int dx f(x)$. Probably because we don’t fuck
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
As a software dude I can see you wrote a regex, I just can’t find out what you’re trying to match.
AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pardon my denseness, but is this sarcasm? Since that is a TeX snippet.
Why would a RegEx start with a
$
?vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Heeyy… So when you need to express something more, well, delicate than just code, you need to use math symbols. For that you can use tex expressions. Modern markdown supports it: just copy and paste the $…$ part
laserm@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why would a mathematician use j for imaginary numbers and why would engineer be mad at them?
CyanideShotInjection@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The only thing I can think of is that the OP studied electrical engineering at some point. But it’s a 4chan story so probably fake anyway.
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
fake and gay?
prex@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I think it might be the wrong way around: Engineers like to use j for imaginary numbers because i is needed for current.
AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Mathematicians are taught to be elastic with notation, because they tend to be taught many different interpretations of the same theory.
On the other hand engineers use more strict and consistent notation, their classes have a more practical approach.
Using the same notation makes it faster to read and apply math, a more agile approach helps with learning new theories and approaches and with being creative.
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think rather
d/dx
is the operator. You apply it to an expression to bind free occurrences ofx
in that expression. For example,dx²/dx
is best understood asd/dx (x²)
. The notation would be clear if you implement calculus in a program.bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If not fraction, why fraction shaped?
Amir@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
If you use exterior calculus notation, with d = exterior derivative, everything makes so much more sense
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I just think of the definition of a derivative.
d
is just an infinitesimally small delta. Sody/dx
is literally justlim (∆ -> 0) ∆y/∆x
. which is the same aslim (x_1 -> x_0) [f(x_0) - f(x_1)] / [x_0 - x_1]
.Note:
∆ -> 0
isn’t standard notation. But writing∆x -> 0
requires another step of thinking:y = f(x)
therefore∆y = ∆f(x) = f(x + ∆x) - f(x)
so you only need∆x
approaching zero. But I prefer thinkingd = lim (∆ -> 0) ∆
.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Better plot than 50 Shades of Grey
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
They both bottoms.
edinbruh@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Relationship goals
Thordros@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
I believe the correct terminology is denominator mathematician.
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
$\int dx f(x)$ is standard notation for physicists
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I love how that wannabe 4chan nerd just got outnerded in the comment section
Etterra@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
Can somebody ELI5 this for my troglodyte writer brain?
marcos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hum… I don’t think the integral “operator” applies by multiplication.
You can put the dx at the beginning of the integral, but not before it.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Gods I wish I had a top to troll like this
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Physicist behavior
answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
so after he angered his bf he got fucked as in trouble with him or sex? raped? wtf lol
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Why are we still visiting literal pro-Nazi websites?
woodenghost@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
But physicists actually do that? They often write it like this: ∫ dx f(x) or this: ∫∫∫ dxdydz f(x,y,z)
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thank you for the belly laugh!
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
My initial thought was that it’s surprising that the engineer is using i whereas the mathematician is using j. But I know some engineers who are hardcore in favour of i. No mathematicians who prefer j though. So if such an engineer were dating a mathematician of all people who used j, I could see that being ♠ .
tfowinder@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Learned a new word, Hate ****
Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Fake and gay.
No way the engineer corrects the mathematician for using j instead of i.
LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
As an engineer I fully agree. Engineers¹ aren’t even able to do basic arithmetics. I even cannot count to 10.
¹ Except maybe Electrical engineers. They seem to be quite smart.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Engineer here, I can definitely count to 10 tho
0 1 10
gnutrino@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Electrical engineers are the ones that use j though (because i is used for current)
thomasloven@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
10? That’s the name some put to 1e1, right?
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yup, I can count just fine to 10: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, gray, white.
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
The inner machinations of an electrical engineer is too complicated for me to understand, I think they might be thinking on a higher order to understand these circuits
Thats why I barely passed my electrical engineering class lol
Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Having worked with electrical engineers, some of them are quite smart, the rest have lead poisoning.
Hoimo@ani.social 3 weeks ago
How do we know it’s gay though? OP could be a girl (male)
SippyCup@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Because it’s 4chan. And there are no women on the Internet on 4chan
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Sure OP is a girl. Guy In Real Life
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Newfag.
(sorry! seemed like the appropriate 4chan reply)
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Right? They got that shit backwards. Op is a fraud. i is used in pure math, j is used in engineering.
Chakravanti@monero.town 3 weeks ago
That’s hilarious. You’re not seeing what’s going on backwards just like that (as I point at the point going nowhere shitty) in an equation that is finding as many clAEver ways to say something you actually not caring about talking about.
That’s like, "How many time van express the only thing that van’t be done until the 'verse itself tries to do what can’t be done and sever your…
…Oh, I see…you don’t have ([of course, because you can’t have to give {is}) nothing)] to give.
Unable to sea time doesn’t mean we can’t see(k)ER the mAETh.ac(k).cc(k).08
The only thin(g):(k) that doesn’t ever be never, is not at alla hack(g)in(g).G your lackthereof to divi…
kogasa@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
The mathematician also used “operative” instead of, uh, something else, and “associative” instead of “commutative”
Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I think they meant “operand”. As in, in the way dy/dx can sometimes be treated as a fraction and dx treated as a value.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
My thoughts exactly lol