Dolph is prime human

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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Eh, it’s more about the enthusiasm than the qualifications. Plus, while Bill Nye is no angel, at least he’s not a Putin supporter.

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  • LikeTearsInTheRain@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bill Nye is an entertainer / educator. I’ve met plenty of people with PHDs and masters who couldn’t present a basic concept because they’re too caught up in technicalities and not understanding what it’s like to teach and get people interested in something.

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    • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ll happily take a minimally qualified Science Guy that inspires thousands or millions of people to get into science than the most sciency scientist in all science that only ever inspired people to punch people.

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  • bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is there some controversy around Bill Nye that I haven’t heard?

    He has been a leading science communicator covering hundreds of topics for many decades, and is only human, of course there are going to be shortcomings.

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    • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He has a reputation of just being an unpleasant dick and difficult to work with. Nothing super problematic to my knowledge, just a bad personality.

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Having personally interacted with him more times than I would like, and it was only 3, he’s just a massive jerk, and a self assured belittler.

      He doesn’t respect people. I’m not sure he respects anyone other than those that can make his image better, and then it’s conditional and stops when they aren’t useful.

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      His AMA was pretty bad.

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  • starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Source or GTFO. Spreading rumours about people is a shitty thing to do.

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    • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ll be nice, but nobody owes it to you to source everything they say or look things up for you. Googling isn’t hard.

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    • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There was a clickbait NY Post article that I’d never link to, this article(archive) is more even handed.

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    • treesapx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is confirmed by a search that’s faster than your comment so where’s your anger coming from?

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• Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And he is a big Trump and Putin supporter. Fuck him.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I could only find this:

    nymag.com/…/dolph-lundgren-putin-sniper-rifles-in…

    It mentions only Putin (which also sounds like a joke) and it’s from 2013 (before the annexation of Crimea).

    Is there any more, and preferably recent, info?

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    • clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t care much about this guy specifically, but I wanted to chime in and say that I appreciate you looking for a source.

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    • troybot@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe they’re confusing Dolph with Kevin Sorbo?

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      2013 was still after 2008 invasion of Georgia and many other signs that Putin is a ruthless dictator tbh. In 2017 he said Russia is lucky to have Putin.

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oof. Didn’t know that

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    • starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s no evidence for that anywhere. Always ask for a source.

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Since we are talking since, let me paraphrase Carl Sagan:

    “Claims require evidence”

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    • neidu3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Obligatory: Source?

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He took his role in Rocky IV too seriously.

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  • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Source?

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  • logicbomb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dolph or Bill?

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    • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dolph… Bill Nye is a Queer and Trans supporter.

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• El_guapazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nye is more of if an educator than scientist. A lot like your average science teacher in high school.

  Dolph is usually posted in this manner to put down Nye’s support for climate research, anti creationism, and other ‘political’ stands.

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  • Doom@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait why? Does he not support those views?

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    • El_guapazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      His views are easily found online. I’m commenting on the side by side comic meme and its implications.

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    • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dolph is vegan and seems to not care about religion, but mostly stays out of politics.

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• psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He’s a science guy, not a scientist.

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  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He sure does like to pretend he’s the latter

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    • Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Based on what exactly? I’ve gone to one of his events, he’s pretty explicit about being a science educator. I can’t say I’ve seen him claim otherwise anywhere, though people definitely like to put those words in his mouth.

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    • treesapx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He’s explicit about being a science communicator and welcomes that discussion.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      citation needed

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      aw did the science guy hurt your feefees?

      show me where the bad man TOLD YOU SOMETHING OBVIOUS THAT RUINED YOUR DAY.

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• glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  bill nye is not a scientist, and he never claimed to be one. He is a science communicator, a role he has done well for some time.

  Same with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He specifically claims to be a science guy. Not a scientist.

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    BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL!

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    NDT is a pompous ass

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    • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sure but watching him on nova when I was a kid is a big reason I got so into science and engineering so I don’t really care

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    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unfortunately same with Bill Nye. He seemed so pissed at getting recognized by people at a Symposium.

      Like geeze dude sorry you inspired people as kids and encouraged them to pursue science and they’re excited to meet you.

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    • S0ck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s a downside of being educated and fascinated by what you’ve learned.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not the same with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

    I’m not his biggest fan, but I fully respect his scientific credentials. He has a PhD from Columbia. He published at least a dozen papers. There’s no question that he’s a scientist, a manager of scientists, as well as a science communicator.

    The problem is that his success seems to have destroyed his humility. It’s not that he brags about being so incredibly smart. It’s more that he doesn’t ever seem to sit back and say “hey, maybe this isn’t something where my contributions won’t be appreciated”. I think his science communication is doing more good than harm. I think he’s a great role model for little black boys who think all scientists are white, or that they’re all stuffy nerds with no personality. But, I think he’s at his best when he’s in a show where there’s a script and an editor. On social media and on free-form podcasts, he comes off as a know-it-all ass.

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    • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He is a know-it-all ass. He’s a self-important dickhead. But I appreciate his role in getting young black kids seeing a role model that they can relate to. That’s far more important than his ego.

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    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But, I think he’s at his best when he’s in a show where there’s a script and an editor. On social media and on free-form podcasts, he comes off as a know-it-all ass.

      ^ This. I still am miffed at his attitude in regards to considering the issues of AI on I forget which talk show, but he took the attitude of “we’d just pull the plug”.

      Maybe when in a scripted format or in writing, he might be able to extrapolate a bit, but he just sounded like a layperson when it comes to the topic, and I honestly have no idea if he’s read or considered the kinds of things that, say, Nick Bostrom has put out there. It just sounded like some hot take man-on-the-street kind of response, talking about the problem as if we are talking about someone’s server running somewhere. It was just…facepalm.

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  • Twoafros@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Neil DeGrasse Tyson has a Phd in astrophysics and he has published a lot of papers. He is a scientist and a science communicator. NDT and Bill Nye are not the same.

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  • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Neil does have a PhD. in astrophysics, however.

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    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Neil is stupid and regularly gets osmosis wrong and thinks it can “suck minerals” from your body, something I was taught repeatedly in basic A&P, biology, and chemistry, that isnt true bc osmosis is the movement of water, not solutes.

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  • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sure, but he has a Bachelor of Science degree. :)

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    • Glytch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, but that’s BS

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  to be fair bill nye is using his degree and praticing/teaching rather than someone that just ditched his degree after he got it. in a job setting they will take bill nye over someone that hasnt used his degree in a while.

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  • meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If anything, in my 30 years I’ve learned degrees only mean so much. Someone without a degree but with actual on the job experience will out perform a new grad any day of the week.

    Frankly the university system has become a way to make sure the poor stay poor.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i believe that too, unfortunately for stems its still archaic in the way it gains experience, plus its also gatekeeped too in a way too, like they gatekeep MD salaries.

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• Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bill is just a science guy after all. Not a science lord.

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• Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  …Does Bill Nye need more qualifications to be an effective science educator?

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  • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He does not. This post is gatekeeping bullshit. The only thing that matters is knowledge of a subject. This shit reminds me of the worthless dumbfucks who immediately start asking for credentials when I tell them that their understanding of AI is nonsense.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the post thinks having more degrees means your more qualfied in that profession, and also prestige.

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• WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Whoever made this meme doesn’t know what exponentially means.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is science, not math.

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  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I, too, spent longer than I ever should have thinking about this. My first thought was, they’re just using it in a linguistic sense, so it doesn’t matter that the exponent would have to be something very small to go from 1 qualification to 4. But then I thought, hm, I guess since there’s only 1 qualification for Bill, no exponent would be enough. But then I realized that grammatically the value in question is “qualification” and not “number of degrees”. The number of degrees is merely standing in as a heuristic proxy to illustrate qualification. This “qualification” scale makes the most the most sense if it’s between 0 and 1, representing percentiles or qualification. Therefore, the exponent applied to Bill’s qualifications must also be between 0 and 1 in order to increase the value to Lundgren’s. For a moment I thought this was the nail in the coffin for the original text, but of course the word “more” there again refers to the qualification, not to the exponent itself. This interpretation has the nice benefit that no matter what the exponent is, we always get a qualification value between 0 and 1. Hence I can conclude this is the only viable headcanon for this post.

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• Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What do you guys think is so special about a scientist.

  They measure things and record them really well. They apply scientific principles and such.

  They use lab equipment and usually have a very narrow scope on the things they are working on.

  Do you think every scientist gets a noble or something?

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Scientist isn’t a thing. It’s like artist, a self-designation.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, its a thing, people have the title “scientist.” Its just a job, tho.

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    • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What kinda essentialism is this? Artist is also absolutely a job title. Sure, you can self-describe as well, but there are people that get paid to be an artist.

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    • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bachelors of Science? I know you could argue that is applied to a lot of degrees, However one of my kids is a Materials Scientist. It is the Diploma and Job. americanprofessionguide.com/materials-scientist-c…

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• hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s tragic that he never got to play a scientist who could smell crime.

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• Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  More educated, you mean? Cuz to my knowledge only one of them works in science

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• Speiser0@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Exponential in which variable?

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• ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He quit the Fulbright thing after two weeks though.

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Choice. A bold choice. Not a negative.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, but look at why he quit:

    However, while preparing for the move to Boston, he was spotted in the nightclub where he worked in Sydney and was hired by Grace Jones as a bodyguard, and the two became lovers.[18] He moved with Jones to New York City, where he dabbled in modeling at the Zoli Agency but was described as “a bit too tall and muscular for a model’s size 40”.

    It’s not like he said “this is too hard for me”, it’s more like he said “wait, I can have this other life instead?”

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    • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not complaining or anything. Bro was banging peak Grace Jones and saw a better life than chemical engineering (maybe he saw god, she was smoking hot). Before this meme I thought he had a PhD and then I had to look up the scholar stuff.

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• theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Bill nye the science guy”

  Fair enough.

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  • bytesonbike@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dolph lundgren the Science… Dungeon?

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• burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  im not a scientist but my data points indicate that this meme fucking sucks

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• hobovision@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What about a masters in engineering and a bachelor’s in chemistry makes him even double more qualified? Yeah, maybe if he had a doctorate you could make that argument, but you could easily learn and do as much science work in 6 years outside of a university than you would in a BS and MS program at a university.

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• ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Dolph, Dolph, Dolph!

  Dolph Lundgren the science front man.

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• troglodytis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the way

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• Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Carl Sagan, Neil Tyson, Dora the Explorer. All very important. Be interested in things.

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• Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  IQ 160, speaks 6 lenguages, Black Belt in several martial arts, in the making of the Rocky movie, Stallone wanted for realism that Lundgreen give him a real punch, after this he woke up in the hospital.

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  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Instead, Lundgren found himself at the centre of one of New York’s most romanticised periods. He dabbled in modelling but was too tall and big for most gigs. He earned a basic wage alongside Chazz Palminteri as a bouncer on the door of Manhattan’s Limelight Club. By night, he hung out with Keith Haring, Iman and Steve Rubell. By morning, [Garace] Jones would bring back as many as five girls for group sex, an activity he describes as “exhausting”. He was a regular at both Studio 54 and the Factory, and Andy Warhol would invite him to do a photoshoot with Jones. But not before Warhol asked him: ‘What are you famous for?’

    “It was certainly a shock for this young engineering student,” he says. “I’m pleased to have been part of that scene. It was right before Aids, and the club scene was hardcore. And my girlfriend, Grace, was a big gay icon, so we went to a lot of the clubs. We knew Andy and all the designers, and Michael Jackson and David Bowie. It was simpler in those days somehow. And fun. Entertainment wasn’t corporate in the way entertainment is now. A lot of the people I met back then are not alive anymore. You know, Aids or drugs or a combination of the two. Its bittersweet looking back. Even with Andy. I thought he was an old man at the time but he died in his 50s.”

    irishtimes.com/…/dolph-lundgren-grace-jones-would…

    Point to Lundren for epic party stories.

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Its not the size of your knowledge. Its what you do with it that counts.

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• jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He’s a science guy.

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• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He still audits classes at MIT occasionally.

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• Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Stephen Hawking fell into the same role in his later years. If your first introduction to him was trying to communicate science to stupid people, please read Black Holes and Baby Universes, or really, any of his works before he was getting ready to die.

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• rockandsock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’mma need to see Dolph in a bow tie…

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  • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    Now what?

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• Lussy@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I bet Lundgren is a huge piece of shit irl, no way someone like this can’t have a major fatal flaw

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  • ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    IIRC he’s a Zionist and criticised Sweden for being too socialist, so yeah, a couple.

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• dumbass@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you read BS as Bullshit, it makes it better.

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• Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lundgren the science guy!

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