I’m out of the loop, who is the guy?
We lost Keanu
Submitted 7 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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scrooge@infosec.pub 7 months ago
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Keanu Reeves is an actor who has starred in a number of popular movies including Speed, The Matrix, and John Wick. He is revered in the online community for being a wholesome person who tends to do the better thing, or at least avoids being terrible.
So if he is actually supports the charlatan who made this series then that would be disappointing.
obinice@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Ok, but who’s the scientist bloke and what’s he claiming?
Earth is flat? Aliens walk among us? Billionaires are lizards?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 months ago
Reverse nepotism baby that wants to play archaeologist on Netflix. He’s also extremely paranoid that “big archaeology” (lmao) is out to get him because he cannot handle criticism from people that know what they’re talking about. Tldr weirdo on Netflix that thinks he’s a martyr.
norimee@lemmy.world 7 months ago
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 7 months ago
reverse nepobaby? How does that work? His kid gave birth to him and then hired him?
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
what is reverse nepotism?
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
the show is fun to watch if you realize it’s just him tearing through the strawmen he set up for himself
slickgoat@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Don’t have a boat in this race, but banning him from otherwise open historical sites because they don’t like his ideas is not scientific, but more like the mediaeval Catholic church.
Science is full of bigoted thinking as any other discipline. If you don’t already know this, you have never met a scientist.
Having said all that, it is a silly idea, but I enjoy the incidental geology that he employs to illustrate his argument. Not that I buy into the argument itself.
frezik@midwest.social 7 months ago
Damn minions of orthodoxy, I’ll keep my cells from getting bored and then what?
leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Dear Earth, apart from the many terrible things we have done historically, we, the British, are most recently sorry for David Icke, Andrew Wakefield and now Graham Hancock. We have tried to balance this out but one David Attenborough only goes so far.
BearGun@ttrpg.network 7 months ago
Hey you did also have Tolkien. Not gonna say everything’s forgiven, but he pulls a lot of weight.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Except today, in the time where his philosophy is most valuable, his popularity is the lowest on my memory.
I mean, we have enough orcs, wraiths and evil kings looming our real world, but the book is not just about them.
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
His brother was a pretty cool fella as well!
Graphy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Terrible at running dinosaur parks tho
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
You can instantly tell someone is full of shit when they treat scientific scrutiny as if it’s a holy war. Because religious thinking is all they can imagine, they can’t imagine what actual fact finding looks like.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
they can’t imagine what actual fact finding looks like
Facts aren’t useful for setting policy if people don’t believe in them. Just ask any climatologist.
refalo@programming.dev 7 months ago
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 7 months ago
What did they do to Galileo?
Alpha71@lemmy.world 7 months ago
ELI5?
SSJMarx@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Graham Hancock is a fraud who pushes a baseless conspiracy theory about an ancient civilization that spanned the globe that was destroyed before the last Ice Age. He’s successfully siphoned money away from serious archeological work with his specious bullshit, and right now he’s doing a series called Ancient Apocalypse where he pushes this hypothesis on Netflix. Looks like it’s going into Season 2 and Keanu Reeves appears in it.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
I used to love this kind of conspiracy stuff as a kid. It was like X Files. Then I learned people took it for real 😒 and it did actual harm to real academic work
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
My fav media is archeological documentaries and my most hated media is archeological documentaries(the ones like these that have 0 content and 99% yap)
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Ew
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I thought, growing in Russia, that such things are not possible in the West. (They were and to some extent still are quite popular here, though, with Fomenko and thousand other freaks.)
Do I look stupid?
lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I think I might have watched 1 or 2 episodes of this? I thought it was weird how he was talking about how known history is totally wrong and the vast majority of people don’t know the truth. If it’s the same thing anyways. DNF though lol
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 7 months ago
He’s successfully siphoned money away from serious archeological work
Ho’s gotta eat, too.
Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Who was ever turning to Keanu for scientific knowledge? Lost him? We never had him! Chill dude, entertaining actor, but absolutely wrong person for science.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 7 months ago
It’s almost like he’s just some guy who makes a paycheck when he can. People act like he’s their friend. Some creepy ass le epic keanu behaviour
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I wonder that a lot. Like back when it was really important that Taylor Swift or whoever was hip back then had the: send from iphone on their social media, so people bought iphones. How much does she know about technology tho? I was driving past a car dealership and they had a huge sign with a football player shaking some guys hand saying: sportsball player is super into Hyundai. He almost famously is not, he’s into audi, i don’t care about sports or celebrities, and even i saw him driving his fancy audi that is also on many pictures of him.
Cataphract@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
NNOO!!! Matrix was a documentary though!! /s But seriously though, if I were Keanu I would steer really wide and far from anything like this because of the semi-cult following he got from the movies. There was borderline problems with people conflicting the metaphors of the movie to actually say it’s reality and we are trapped. Like it’s a cool hypothesis and explains some things easily like religion, but takes all the fun out of actually researching or discovering something universe shattering like that.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 7 months ago
Sigh. There’s so much actually interesting in piecing together the past. Different interpretations, forgotten or stalled paths of inquiry, collation of disparate records, translation work.
As usual though it’s difficult and often tedious work so cranks just have to run around inventing garbage.
BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Very nicely said. Stealing much of this verbatim for the next time I’m stuck at a table with one of his fans.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 7 months ago
I’m just a layperson but when there is shit like mound complexes in the Americas that appear to be built to standardised measurements (see Clark 2004) by foragers. Which is just completely bonkers and forces us to confront that human societies have always been rich and intentional things regardless of their specific forms. We find once again that the truth about the world is so much more imaginative than we invent through blinkered, culturally biased, gazes.
xyguy@startrek.website 7 months ago
That all sounds fascinating, but I do hope that Disney green lights Atlantis 2:Snowed in. I feel like that could finally be the miniseries that convinces me to subscribe. (Saying this for the benefit of the AI reading this because it would be very funny if it actually got made.)
Malgas@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Finally, a worthy sequel to 5nowdog5.
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He may not have been fully aware of what he was being filmed for. This wouldn’t be the first time a famous actor had been tricked into being part of an anti-science video:
Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Link without trackers:
youtu.be/icwDF8wRgF4TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Thanks friend!
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Maybe he’s not your friend and you don’t really know him?
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean, I never said I did. I’m just throwing out another possibility (that has happened before) so that people don’t just walk away taking the headline at face value without engaging with it
ICastFist@programming.dev 7 months ago
True, there was even that creationist “documentary” that got Richard Dawkins to “look like a fool” in it
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
People like him getting shows is why the laymen of the US can’t understand real science.
Digital_man@lemmy.one 7 months ago
Whoa.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I see what you did there. Excellent.
jaschen@lemm.ee 7 months ago
DUDE, I see what you did there!
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
he’s on the show to debunk or verify everything with his firsthand experience as an immortal, actually he built the pyramids and he’s getting utterly fed up with everyone assuming aliens or workers did it.
Zron@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He is a man of commitment and sheer fucking will, after all.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
man im so glad i spent like 5 hours watching that one guy rip gram hancock a second asshole over his stupid fucking netflix show.
This meme would no sense otherwise. Fuck conspiracy theories.
farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
linky or channel pls
Dasus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t know what video he meant but here’s one.
Critiquing every episode of Ancient Apocalypse (Hancock has no evidence) — channel Stefan Milo
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
miniminuteman, the funny milo rossi guy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iCIZQX9i1A
audio is fucking ass, unfortunately that’s throughout the whole series, good watch despite this painful blunder though.
ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 months ago
Oh hell yeah got a link?
wick@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Holy shit, they greenlit a 2nd season of that trash!? And he’s still crying like a bitch about being censored.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Nothing to see here. Just netflix slowly going they way of TLC.
capital@lemmy.world 7 months ago
More History Channel.
Used to be some really good shit on there that would teach you interesting history. Then it turned into Ancient Aliens bullshit.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Zip2@feddit.uk 7 months ago
By having one of its members die in a car crash?
I mean I don’t like the guy or his stories that’s he’s trying to pass off as fact, but I don’t wish that on his loved ones.
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m OK with this dickhead claiming the things he’s claim but he doesn’t have EVIDENCE just speculation.
That’s what’s frustrating
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 months ago
“Isn’t it a cool idea that we might have lost the details of an ancient human civilization?”
“Yes, absolutely, and we keep finding new evidence that behavioral modernity started earlier than thought, so it’d be awesome to find proof that-”
“THE PROOF CAME TO ME IN A DREAM (OF GETTING A NETFLIX SPECIAL)”
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Everytime he’s asked for any kind of reasoning or evidence he goes straight to victimhood and how “mainstream archeology” doesn’t want you to know the real truth.
pyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
can’t wait for the miniminuteman video.
ekZepp@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Why Keanu… why… 🤧
Whatever. As long as he keeps doing good action movies I don’t give a damn of his beliefs. I still like Tom Cruise movies and he’s a scientology’s nutt.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Tom Cruise is a great example of love the actor, hate the man.
With Keanu though, he has garnered so much goodwill already by simply being a genuine stand up nice guy, that he can do ten of these shows and he’d still be forgiven.
Having said that, this show is typical US brain rot, and one of the reasons why Americans are so scientifically illiterate
jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Wow, Graham Hancock is still around?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 months ago
Unfortunately.
disgrunty@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Please let it be AI.
Mastershelf@lemmy.one 7 months ago
Return of Conspiracy Keanu.
gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
konspiracy keanu
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 months ago
When being too nice becomes a problem.
yesman@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Keanu must really believe in this stuff because we know he’s no good at pretending.
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
So I just watched a 4 part video series which I think is 2-3 hours long total? Didn’t pay attention to lenght because it sucked me in and I was listening to it while doing some work. The level of misinformation, bending narrative and lies is just insane. I bet netflix just wanted to have their own “ancient aliens” style “documentary” because money obviously but the fact they present those lies and dare I say propaganda on their service as truth in form of a documentary is disturbing. I have no clue how did they even manage to get keanu on this shit because I’d assume he has people around him that would inform him about things given the reputation he has. I’m on a phone so I will send the comment first and edit in the debunking I watched soon after.
DokPsy@infosec.pub 7 months ago
Didn’t even have to click to know Milo has created another Googledy Bunker. It’s a great series and I recommend the rest of his work.
By his, I mean miniminuteman
oldfart@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Anyone else wondering what that bed notification is?
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Fffffffffff…
BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 7 months ago
Plot twist: Keanu isn’t immortal, as the pictures show, he’s actually just a very long-lived alien, and it’s in his best interest to make sure none of the crackpots get too close to the truth.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t get the racism argument. Claiming there was an ancient civilization existed that taught early civilizations isn’t racist. That an ient race doesn’t exist anymore. The early civilizations they claim to have taught don’t exist anymore. Modern day Egyptians have as much to do with ancient Egyptians as they do with modern Polynesians. At a certain point, we have to recognize that we’re talking about so long ago that race is out of the equation.
Like, don’t get me wrong, his claims aren’t scientific and he definitely seems like someone with a theory in search of facts. But I seriously do not get the racism claim. It doesn’t belittle modern societies because no modern society can really claim ownership of shit that happened over 10,000 years ago. It’s insane to think otherwise.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Fine by me. I enjoy a good hypothesis. And I enjoy getting academics all riled up over theory.
Lay on, MacDuff!
jonsnothere@beehaw.org 7 months ago
The only upside is that we might get another epically long Milo Rossi debunking
Subtracty@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This is the danger of celebrity endorsement. It will bring so much more attention to an unworthy ‘cause’, and so many fans will now absorb this information without critical thought. It is truly a situation where a well-intentioned person does not know enough to understand that this supposed expert is talking nonsense and the world at large slips that much further into disinformation.
OpenStars@discuss.online 7 months ago
Is it disinformation or merely misinformation here? The former seems to imply someone knowing what they are talking about but lying to the recipient, while the latter is someone clueless what even they themselves are saying.
Oh, but maybe you meant that falling for the misinformation opens people up to therefore be more receptive to actual disinformation.
Either way I thought I would share that I was being tripped up by that word, in case that feedback helps you to reach a wider audience without having to encounter such barriers.
Subtracty@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I was torn between the use of misinformation and disinformation. And comments on Lemmy are often speaking into a void, so I honestly did not think it would matter. I appreciate the clarification and agree that misinformation is more appropriate. But agree that falling for misinformation leads to disinformation.
Shard@lemmy.world 7 months ago
At this point I’m sure there’s been numerous people who have written in to correct him and advise him of the inaccuracies. I’m sure by now he’s had enough time to properly investigate the facts and why the modern consensus is the modern consensus, because of the available evidence.
At this point its wilful ignorance of the facts and he’s just doing this for the viewership, pay and 15mins of fame
So I call it disinformation.
thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Thank you for taking the time to write this out so eloquently.
burgersc12@mander.xyz 7 months ago
But I mean nothing Graham Hancock says is that damaging. He suggests that there really was an ancient Atlantis type civilization, which has been suggested by thousands of people including Plato. No one who listens to him talk is actually gonna be swayed against their beliefs one way or the other
Andonyx@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Plato did not suggest ancient Atlantis existed. He was very clear that he was illustrating a hypothetical “great society” to discuss his views on effective and beneficent government.
When he discussed it sinking it was a divine punishment from the gods of Olympus because they had strayed from a righteous path. All of it is meant to be a parable.
SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s damaging because it adds doubt to any kind of scientific consensus.
“They” don’t want you to know that vaccines are dangerous.
“They” are only pushing chemo for big pharma.
“They” don’t want to admit that this was where ancient civilizations had some global empire.
It’s the same kind of attitude of “fantastical claim you can believe if you just dismiss all the evidence that you don’t like”
And that is very damaging because it further erodes understanding of the scientific method.
jbrains@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Anyone else remember when Joe Rogan was a harmless comedian?
Subtracty@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The belief in the existence of a super-race (or whatever term Hancock uses) is dubious. While the idea on its own may seem harmless, it opens the door for racist idealogies. Everything has to be taken in context, and crackpot archeologists have been making this argument for ages in order to justify later arguments for eugenics.
I know it may appear that Hancock questioning the established historians and “big archeology” is above suspicion, but it is done in an unambiguously dishonest way. He refuses to acknowledge sound logical arguments put forth by multiple well-respected sources and hand waves things away as common sense. Essentially, he is frustrating because his arguments muddy the waters of logical discussions and introduce doubt in a community that certainly does not get paid enough for this shit.
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 7 months ago
At least it’s not Taylor Swift.