The same adult daughter who has trouble loading a dishwasher efficientlyly...
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yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Condiments are the death of refrigerator space. All different sizes, almost never consumed quickly, and they eat up space waiting to be used.
kobra@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
that’s why they have shelves in the doors. also, why is the syrup in the fridge?
Dave@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
If you look closely, you’ll see that syrup is structural. That’s why it’s in the fridge.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why would you look at this and not understand the door shelves are full too?
Syrup lasts longer in the fridge, particularly real maple syrup. It can get mold growing on it.
Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I put my condiments in the veggie drawers and my veggies on the shelves, lol. Can more easily see what I still have and if it’s going bad. Too many goopy cilantro or zucchini experiences
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I keep mine in bins in the dedicated condiment fridge, but then my wife has a condiment addiction so my situation may be abnormal.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
bro, if you have a dedicated fridge for just condiments…
False@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Seems fine to me. Taking everything out to put the pizza box on the bottom, then removing it again to take out a slice of pizza is inefficient
adarza@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
i do the same thing. the leftover pizza will be gone first thing in the morning anyway.
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
ok boomer
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Everyone I don’t like is a boomer. “
StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
ok boomer /s
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
“Every lifestyle I don’t like is inferior and a sign of bad character!” - Dipshit Boomer, esq.
uhmbah@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
LOL
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In the same way that being trans is not a choice but came with the human experience of that person, being of a certain age is also just not a choice. Getting randomly bitchslapped for it as I skim through comments is unpleasant, which was clearly your intent.
I’d expect someone who knows what it is to be othered as a matter of rote to also refrain from using othering terms.
Guess I expected wrong.
papalonian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Writing a guilt trip to compare “ok boomer” to the vitriol and hate that trans people experience is some big boomer energy.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Gift idea for your daughter
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why are you ragging on your daughter? It’s your fault she doesn’t know how to load a dishwasher, and this is a legit pizza strategy. It and the fruit are on top probably because they needed put away quickly. Why are you posting her business on the Internet? If you’re infuriated why didn’t you reach her how to load a dishwasher? If this is her house, why is any of this your business?
Fluke@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I am totally fucking here for this comment.
Right on the fucking button.
binux@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Incredible parenting strategy to post your grievances about her online instead of communicating openly with her about it.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Haven’t we all been there? Not enough room for the box, you’re tired and probably going to eat it tomorrow anyway.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, if I already settled for a shitty takeout pizza I’m not having a good mental health day. That shit is getting jammed wherever it fits, probably 2 minutes before I pass out on the couch drunk. I’ll deal with it in the morning.
Dookieman12@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Since you didn’t learn from the top comment in your last thread, allow me to repeat it here:
It’s your fault, accept the shame and teach her.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I am not sure what bad taste in pizza has to do with dishwashers, but if my kids bought dominoes I would be upset too.
ReasonablePea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Their pan pizza is pretty good though, I’d say the best of the chain pizzas
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Little Caesars is surprisingly good for the price. Id put them above Domino’s for sure though I do like their pan pizza too.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You know you’re telling on yourself right. Parents are supposed to teach their kids these skills, man what have you been doing!! (/s)
chrisgpz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can still hear my Dad.
Short shit on the short shit shelf Tall shit on the tall shit shelf
Fluke@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Your Dad apparently did some parenting, unlike the sperm/egg donor responsible for this.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Glad I don’t know you.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The tighter a fridge is packed, the more will be thrown in the trash
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This hurts my heart. If I were to say there was any “failure” (I use that term loosely here), it’s that you obviously deprived your child of the joy that is Tetris.
But, fear not! It’s never too late.
~In case it isn’t obvious, this comment is meant to be lighthearted. Y’all do y’all. 💙~
indomara@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Holy shit this thread is full of holier than thou judgy comments!
I have always been the strict one, no phones at the table, no devices in the room. I taught my daughter to cook, the correct way to clean. I taught her manners.
I learned patience and fortitude as I made her do these things over and over again until they were done right, instead of doing them myself.
My daughter has AuDHD, something that can be a reason but that we never let be an excuse. Part of that disability is struggling with executive function, and you know what? More often than not, she does this same shit. Yes, even at 20 years old.
There are times I needed support and wanted to post similar things somewhere just so someone else could bear witness to how fucking hard it is to raise a kid like that right.
When she was 12 I watched her stand at the sink for I shit you not 6 fucking hours doing the dishes for a family of 3. We watched her and took little notes. Here is a one hour excerpt:
1810 - playing with foam and masher
1812 - playing with masher + silicone mixer (red), then just the foam and silicone mixer
1813 - rubs silicone mixer on spatula, then puts the red mixer in the clean. Lightly rubs once on each side of the spatula and calls it cleaned.
1814 - playing with sponge. Holding it upright and squeezing to so runs down arm. Then gets a plate to the surface, and uses sponge to drip water + foam over plate (no direct contact).
1815 - refills sponge, and squeezes over arm again. Then gives 2 circles over the plate in the clean area, and calls it done. Goes back to playing with sponge, picking up foam with it and putting it on another dish.
1816 - sponges hand. Then cleans 1 glass. Picks up 2nd glass, but does a water cycle in it. No sponge action.
1817 - after doing nothing for 30 seconds, sponge stuffed in glass then twisted about gingerly.
1818 - glass with inside sponge twisted put in cleaning part of sink, sponge drained over it. Outside of glass not cleaned. Stands there still for next half minute
1819 - stands there still for first half of minute, gets whisk and whisks about. Drops whisk back in water then walks into lounge room
1820 - walks around lounge room, then plays with sponge
1821 - plays with sponge
1821 - still playing with sponge
1822 - rustles some cutlery after being reminded of being watched, then plays with water
??? - wonders off to get hair tie to put in pony tail. Turned on fan.
1829 - 4 things rinsed. Then looking outside. Then playing with pasta strainer
1830 fills pasta strainer, then lifts to see water fall through it. Holds in front of fan towards face. 5 swipes of the sponge, then plays with fan.
1831 - mentions not getting dessert. After being reminded of being watched, starts to sponge correctly.
1832 - rinses 4 items. Doesn’t rinse inside cat bowl.
1833 - handles the pot for a while before touching sponge. Now using pot scraper.
1837 - puts cutlery on clean side even though didn’t clean with sponge. then uses “pot sponge” on cutlery, not regular sponge.
1839 - scoops up foam with large pot spoon, then drops it in.
1841 - now cleans up dinner mess left on table. Out of order on procedure. 1842 - uses sharp side of knife to scrape off cutting board
1843 - confused by used skewers. Puts it down when asked to work it out.
1855 - puts away cleaned knife, then takes another out to look at
1857 - looking intently at finger for a long time.
1859 - using green pot scrubber on plastic containers scratching them
This went on for I am not exaggerating 6 hours. After that I resolved to never judge a parent for not being able to teach their kid something like washing dishes, because for every A type that just fucking does things there is a B type that drives you insane. Most parents give up and just do it themselves.
Now that she’s 20 she is doing better, we estimate she is 2-3 years behind her peers when it comes to this sort of maturity and executive functioning. She doesn’t take hours to do something, but may take 16 reminders.
Anyway OP, keep fighting the good fight. We all do our best and sometimes a kid just … Refuses to learn.
yakko@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I’m going through it with my 8yo AuDHD boy. I wouldn’t do much mind needing to constantly remind him things if the reminders didn’t anger him. Any wisdom you may have any how to manage them would be like manna from heaven.
indomara@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly? We had to rule with an iron fist from 8-14. It was brutal for her, brutal for us. The above situation with the standing at the sink for 6 hours? That kind of thing was common for a few years. Any time we let her go without doing them (or any chore, homework, etc) it’s like she knew she got away with it and immediately her behaviour would worsen. She would try to get out of it again and again, regressing to crying etc. if we let her get away with something even once.
We had to stick to our guns, every single time. Eventually she would realise that doing dishes was something we were going to make her do, no matter what, and she couldn’t do anything fun until they were done, and finally started just doing them.
However the thing about AuDHD kids (in my opinion) is that they cannot apply a lesson or rule to other common sense situations. Like, you say no food in your room, they think “This is candy, not food, therefore allowed” and you end up having to reiterate and refine the rule for each situation.
The same is true with them learning how to do any chore, school work, life skill like brushing their teeth. It will require an exhausting amount of micromanagement and honestly there were times when we cried, raged, or plain old gave up. Every life skill had to be taught, and each situation that it applied to had to be taught separately.
You say that your reminders anger him? Good. He can be angry, that is allowed. He has to respect you, but he can be angry when you make him do something. Remember that he is 8 and your window to change any dynamics is closing rapidly, so if you need to change your parenting style, get help and do it now!
What helped us with the reminders thing is remembering that people with adhd experience time differently, so when he needs to do something, give a soft reminder first “Hey in 5 minutes we need to do xyz.” and also respect his interests, we never shut off her pc in the middle of a game or whatever. “After that game, I need you to do xyz.”
Of course this gets push back, and that’s when we had to get “mean”. Taking away devices or scheduling when her internet or phone would not work were the big guns, but around 9 or 10 years old she went through a phase where no punishment or incentive did shit to sway her. She literally ended up in a completely bare room like it was a prison because she couldn’t be reasoned with and nothing was a consequence to her. She just doubled down until we had to take something else away. This is typical of AuDHD kids I think, they are strong willed and can go full “monk” and nothing will bother them. Which sucks when you must get through to them when something is not ok. Thankfully that stage didn’t last long and it quickly got better after that.
Also, we put her into social activities immediately and through her whole time in primary and high school. Kids with AuDHD are… assholes. People don’t like them. Teachers don’t like them. She would come home and tell me a teacher was mean to her and I felt terrible for her. Kids were just awful to her.
Putting her in drama classes, dance classes, judo, scouts, you name it meant she had to learn how to deal with other kids, and the acting and drama classes were great for helping her learn how to mask in public. The short one hour class meant everyone had a chance to cool off until next week.
We spent a lot of time watching her social interactions and asking questions about them, examining them with her. “Do you think that girl was backing away from you because you might have been in her personal space?” “Why do you think your friend got mad at you earlier?”
At home we don’t have to mask, but in public, around others, the reality is we do. We cannot say to our friends mom “This is disgusting” when they ask what we think of dinner. We cannot tell a friend they look fat in that dress, or invade people’s personal space etc.
When we don’t learn how to act we hurt people we care about, and we end up hurting ourselves.
She’s now 20, going to uni, and doing well. She still sucks with executive functioning, the dishes are still her nemesis, but I am so proud of her. For a while we wondered if she would ever be able to live independently, and now we are sure she will be ready in a year or two.
Sorry for the novel. I know how hard this is for you. Sending you strength!
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Weirdly enough I had a similar problem until I took the Washington state food handlers test and certification online. It basically showed me why many of my untrained food storage habits were actually dangerous.
I mean … I still do them but at least now I know.
farmgineer@nord.pub 2 weeks ago
Remember that those are designed to cover asses and cater to people with many different levels of working immune system. You may or may not need to actually be anywhere near that strict in your own home.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
If the door shuts...
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
the real test is what happens when you open the door again
Dultas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What did you do?!
Dookieman12@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
A fridge full of condiments and no food. Why don’t you throw out some of those (probably expired) jars of goop so there’s room for leftovers?
You’re right, I’m getting side tracked; let’s keep the conversation about your daughter. Maybe you should have a talk with who raised her?
GarboDog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well he’s obviously busy drinking his own adulthood away, she probably was in a rush to get away from his drunk ass.
homes@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Dishwasher? My parents had one. As an adult living on my own, even with roommates, I’ve never lived in a home with one. I’ve never had enough dishes to necessitate one. I don’t think I’ve even seen one in decades.
Seppo@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Easy if you don’t cook much.
homes@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Well, I do, but I wash as I cook. So, by the time my food is done, I have nothing left to do but eat.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
this is fucking baffling to me because EVERYONE here has a dishwasher and has had one for at least… two generations now…
The only places that don’t have one is tiny apartments where it would occupy half the kitchen.homes@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Where is “here”? Live in the United States. And over the last 35 years, I lived in four different states. In each of these, I have occupied apartments and houses that had at least 3 to 6 bedrooms.
So I’m really not sure what you’re talking about.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Before I decided to move into my current place I had a moment where I noticed the listing page said the place didn’t have a dishwasher and I didn’t remember seeing one specifically when viewing the place, so I texted the property manager. His response: “yes, it has a dishwasher, that was just an oversight. All modern properties have a dishwasher.” Not sure if he said that because of laws in this state or what but it basically reflects my experience also. I’ve very rarely even seen a home without a dishwasher, it’s been years since I saw one.
So I agree with you. This guy is quite weird…
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Omg a clutterbug raised a clutter bug?!?!
Peanut butter, syrup don’t need to be refrigerated. Pizza sauce left overs saved, but it’ll be trash b4 you mage another pizza. I could go on, but i don’t care enough
uncooked24@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Everything goes in the fridge when you have ants.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
And you get ants when your place isnt clean and sanitary.
nelly_man@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used to not refrigerate my syrup. However, that changed when I found a scoby growing in it one day. And some people refrigerate natural peanut butter so that the oil doesn’t separate.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Crazy take on my party: syrup is pure sugar. You dont need to keep it that long. Have a taste and throw it out quickly.
It has no health benefits, besides gluttonous non-nutritional calories. A dandelion from the sidewalk is healthier for you.
Itll literally kill your boner and take your limbs given time.
But sometimes I just like to argue
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Syrup does.
Evwn the label says to do it after opening.Else it could develoo mold. And maple syrup is expensive in Europe.
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That’s not maple syrup. That’s American syrup-like product
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Peanut butter and syrup should need refrigerating - only the preservative laden crap is shelf stable (which admittedly, is what is pictured).
Pizza sauce freezes very well in silicone cubes.
mriormro@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Absolutely incorrect on all fronts here.
djdarren@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
If it fits it sits.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s okay, the only thing worse than a hot dominoes pizza is day old, refrigerated Domino’s pizza.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Air fryers reheat pizza great
jestho@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think “Dominos” was the key word here
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Cardboard
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What was expected here? Take all the shit out of the fridge, put the pizza box in the bottom, then stack it all on top again to make it look neat? Maybe I’m a slob but I see no world where this isn’t the play unless there’s only like 2 slices that can fit in tupperware or a bag.
motruck@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s on you.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Dishwasher? Yes
That? No.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Says the person who’s wasting letters writing titles inefficientlylyly
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I mean, this looks pretty similar to the dishwasher setup, so idk why you’re surprised / appalled 😊
In all seriousness though, I wouldn’t place the pizza at the bottom either. It’s the most likely to be grabbed next and finished first.
jrubal1462@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Agreed. No need to optimize until the door doesn’t shut.
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
She also loads the fridge badly.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
pancake syrup doesnt need refrigeration
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have good news and bad news.
bad news is, maple syrup most definitely must be refrigerated.
good news, corn syrup with maple flavoring usually does not.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That is not maple syrup at all though. That shit is as fake as that mother fucker back there.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Warm syrup? No thanks
Baaron87@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know the feeling. Both of my parents do stuff like this and it drives me crazy. I’ve had to clean out the fridge/freezer multiple times and have found so much food that went bad.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just out of curiosity, who raised her?
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Probably an iPad
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Considering the daughter has 3 daughters of her own, probably not.
Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Exactly. Parents who complain about their kids behavior…like, did you drop them off with a pack of wolves or did you actually pay attention to them and take time out for them to teach them as opposed to yelling, dictating and insulting them?
Oh wait, maybe that’s just how I was brought up.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Yeah, my parents are still wondering “where did we go wrong,” as if they’re surprised I turned out to be worthless…
Like, I fought like hell to thrive despite how they raised me, and in the end it came crashing down around me because the psychological conditioning was just too deep set.
And it didn’t help that every time I started to get on my feet, they dragged me back down cause I guess it made them feel bad when they saw me start to do well any time I managed to cut them off temporarily. Buy they’d wriggle their way back into my life and start sabotaging everything all over again by talking down to me in strategic ways designed to trigger my ancient complexes and insecurities like only they know how to do…
cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Lol, this is what I tell my wife when she complains about one of our kids. “Guess they weren’t brought up right”.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m my family this would have resulted in one parent telling the other parent that “your daughter” wasn’t raised right. That’s all I’m saying.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
For this sort of thing I’m not sure it matters. You either give a shit about this or it doesn’t even reach your attention. I’ve seen people raised by meticulous engineers that do this kind of crap. It drives those of us that care absolutely nutty as it would literally take effort for us to do something like this so we assume it’s done to piss us off but it usually is just something that some people don’t attend to at all. In their mind it’s just pizza in fridge, done, next thing.
fartographer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Me, and I couldn’t be more proud of her for at least trying.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People seem to have taken this as a slight against op, but I’m gonna be real with you, for me it’s not that deep. Better to be shoved in sideways than not put in the fridge at all.